large grow room design - HELP NEEDED

[oscarzilla]

Hey, I'm planning on starting a commercial grow-op with a couple friends. We each have a little bit of growing experience (mostly outdoors), but we've never attempted anything this large. We have a pretty significant amount of cash to spend, so we'd like to do this right. We'd like to grow a couple different strains so we'll have a nice range of indica-dominant and sativa-dominant blends. Since each of these strains grow in their own unique way, we'll need separate flowering rooms for each strain, right?

I'm thinking about getting one of these hydrohut deluxe tents to use as a flowering room at first. Apparently they can support 2 x 1000w HPS lights, so it seems like a good deal. If set up right (hydro, CO2, proper ventilation, etc.) one of these things with 2000w of light should be able to yield at least a kilo (hopefully more) of dried, cured bud, right?

The reason we want to use grow tents is so we can expand our operation with additional strains whenever. Also, it should help take care of the odor problem, right?We'll use the big deluxe tent to grow large amounts of Big Bud, Skunk #1, Top44, or some other high-yielding commercial strain. When we've made a little bit of money, we'll probably add another couple of smaller grow tents with a 600w or 1000w light each to grow something a little bit more potent

Obviously I'm also going to need a vegetative / clone room for keeping mother plants and clones alive. I'll only need to use flourescents for this, right? As vegetating plants and clones don't have a distinct smell, we won't need a tent for our veg/clone room... just a hydro table and a couple flourescents. Will we be able to keep multiple mother plants and clones of different strains alive under this same light? I guess it's going to need to be pretty big in order to produce enough clones to fill each of those grow rooms with plants. Does anybody have any suggestions for this?

We need the most help overall with the hydro setup... what do you think the best way of maximizing our yields is? I hear that Ebb & Flow systems are pretty inexpensive and easy to use.

Also, using a system like this, how often do you think we'd be able to harvest? How many plants should we grow in each tent to maximize our yields?

Does anybody see any obvious problems with this setup? I know we still have a lot of work to do, but I figured that we should figure out our grow room and lighting before we figure out our hydro and ventilation. Thanks for any help.

[TheTsunami]

the only obvious problems i see is that your lights are going to be adding like 100 dollars to your electrical bill not to mention pumps and fans and shit

[oscarzilla]

The electricity bill isn't too much of a concern as the entire place is dedicated to this grow-op. It's like a mini grow-house.

[oscarzilla]

Does this look like a good hydro system for that tent? http://growell.co.uk/p/1495/Jumbo_Fl...in_System.html

It just barely fits, so it's a good thing that the tent unzips on all sides.

[TheTsunami]

i personally wouldnt consider flood and drain but maybe thats just me I would rather go with ebb & flow method and SOG 24-30 buckets do you have a fertilizer program picked out? I would go with dutchmaster or awesome blossom also with some superthrize added. Make sure to scrub your resivoir when changing from vegging to flowering.

For cloning chamber/mothers make a 4x2ftx6ft or 4x4ftx6ft box and hang 4-6 4ft shoplight fixtures each fixture holding 2 tubes.

[oscarzilla]

I thought ebb and flow was the same thing as flood and drain?

Do you think it's worth starting out growing SOG style? What are the advantages to SOG? You harvest less pot more often... but can't you get better yields overall if you grow fewer taller plants?

[Dr.Doe]

www.omegagarden.com $2495 check it out!

[TheTsunami]

ebb and flow is when the water in the resivoir pumps through hoses into the buckets and fills them up and drains them. The bennefit with SOG is that all of the plants are female of course and you can actually get a good ammount of bud off each one.
with 30 plants in there i bet you could harvest like 2 pounds with proper suppliments.

[oscarzilla]

That omega garden looks pretty sweet, but we can probably build a more efficient garden for half the price...

[oscarzilla]

TheTsunami, we don't have a fertilizer program picked out yet... we'd like to get all of the lighting/hydro/etc. out of the way before we decide on that stuff.

Okay, the deluxe hydrohut claims to be able to support 2 x 1000w HPS lights and is 4 ft. x 8 ft. However, a 600w light is capable of lighting an area of 4ft. x 4ft. sufficiently... so couldn't two 600w lights next to each other sufficiently light a 4x8 grow room? Is 2000w overkill for a 4x8 room?

Would the overall yield increase using 1000w lights be worth the added electricity cost and amount of effort to properly ventilate the room? We want the biggest harvests possible.... but do you think it'd be just too much of a pain in the ass to use 2 huge 1000w lights?

Alternatively, what about 2 x 600w on a light mover instead of 2 x 1000w stationary lights?

[TheTsunami]

i would definately go with the 600 watt lights the added 800 watts would put another 70 dollars on ur bill and will just cause lots of heat problems. I would Save the money from buying the more expensive lights and make another grow area like maybe 9 plants under a 600 watt light somewhere else

[Palehorse22]

I plan on buying the system that is in the hydrohut deluxe....24 pots inside the hut with dual 1000 watt HPS 60" cool tube(vented of course)...the cool tube will be the only difference from the picture...I know a guy who owns a hydro store and he has the same setup....he grows tomatoes and peppers in his...works great...will cost around $3000.00 to set it up...

[oscarzilla]

What kind of setup cost you 3000? Would you mind posting the details?

Couldn't you get a greater yield growing more than 24 plants? I mean, you have 2000w in there.

[Palehorse22]

Originally Posted by oscarzilla

What kind of setup cost you 3000? Would you mind posting the details?

Couldn't you get a greater yield growing more than 24 plants? I mean, you have 2000w in there.

to buy the hydrohut delux with everything you see in the pic you posted with the light system I described will cost about that much...I have already priced it from several hydro sites and am planning on buying it...you can fit 24 buckets in the hut...

[oscarzilla]

Do you have a link to the specific hydro setup? That website doesn't mention what kind of hydro setup is in there. It only makes note of the ventilation and lights...