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Old 05-26-2008, 01:45 AM
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I was using those rockwool cubes to start plants in a dwc veg bubbler for a while. I had hell with runts, stem rot etc. I switched over to jiffy peat pellets and my problems went away.

after they are well rooted in the veg bubbler baskets, i cut the small baskets off and bury the rooted peat pellet in a larger basket full of hydroton and then to the 5 gal dwc for the rest of the grow.

that rockwool is a pain in the ass to deal with. imo, its not ph stable and causes problems for seedlings and young plants.

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man ur mad right here)))))
props!!! + rep

yes i should have considered it and tell u now that the stems of many lowrider male plants had signs of rot - i thought thats an accident and upgraded the pots (lol!) to reduce the surface that is touched by drops in a DWC - so it wont be so wet. i think it might be a bad idea now. i still have time to think about hydroton.

any advice maty? i wonted to stuck a little 1inch cube into hydroton in the 2 inch bucket or so - will it work? how small was the first busket u grow in? how close do u keep the water surface to the pot and how big is the final pot filled with hydroton?

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Awww.....sorry to hear about your male to female ratio, sucks big time.
Still, you have a decent set up so lets hope the next batch is all girls!!
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Old 05-26-2008, 04:55 PM
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Now grow a monster female with all of the space you have.
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Whatup man, nice situation u got here, Ill be watching and GL!!!
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Old 05-26-2008, 08:04 PM
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man ur mad right here)))))
props!!! + rep

yes i should have considered it and tell u now that the stems of many lowrider male plants had signs of rot - i thought thats an accident and upgraded the pots (lol!) to reduce the surface that is touched by drops in a DWC - so it wont be so wet. i think it might be a bad idea now. i still have time to think about hydroton.

any advice maty? i wonted to stuck a little 1inch cube into hydroton in the 2 inch bucket or so - will it work? how small was the first busket u grow in? how close do u keep the water surface to the pot and how big is the final pot filled with hydroton?

p
for new started seedlings, I made a small dwc bubbler out of a sterilite 12"x12"x7" from walmart and cut 9 x 1.5" holes in the lid to place 1.5" baskets into. I started out with the 1" rockwools for these baskets then switched over to the peat pellets after having issues with rockwool stunting and killing seedlings. no hydroton in these. just pellet sitting in basket.

I had lots of bubble action in the seedling dwc from several airstones t'd around in there. I kept the water level just below the 1.5" baskets about a 1/4". After the roots were about 3"-4" long, I pulled the best 4 and moved them to their own 6" baskets buried in hydroton then placed into 5 gallon bucket dwc's for veg and flower. you want to carefully remove the 1.5" basket off of the roots before transplanting into larger basket. I keep the water level about 1" up into the basket until the roots start to show out of the basket, then I drop the level about 1" below the baskets. grow from there.

imo, a 2" basket will not provide much support as a flowering plant sometimes has a 2" - 3" stem at the base and will outgrow a 2" basket. I would use at least a 4" basket. instead of hydroton, you can use lava chips. they are cheap and available at your local hardware store.

peat pellets are cheap too

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Old 05-26-2008, 09:49 PM
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Now grow a monster female with all of the space you have.
well id like to)))
but that low low lowrider is too low to become a monster female

i keep it at 700 ppm (05 ec)
and some CFLs 200w total
cant give it more - all other light resources will be
focused on those 4 youngsters about to sprout

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Whatup man, nice situation u got here, Ill be watching and GL!!!
peace man! all good!

since im blessed with 2 big females in my main grow im just chillin
if those lowriders dissapoint me - ill focus on the clones in this cab

but i think thay wont
i belive those 4 have to be females for shure
 
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:15 PM
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for new started seedlings, I made a small dwc bubbler out of a sterilite 12"x12"x7" from walmart and cut 9 x 1.5" holes in the lid to place 1.5" baskets into. I started out with the 1" rockwools for these baskets then switched over to the peat pellets after having issues with rockwool stunting and killing seedlings. no hydroton in these. just pellet sitting in basket.

I had lots of bubble action in the seedling dwc from several airstones t'd around in there. I kept the water level just below the 1.5" baskets about a 1/4". After the roots were about 3"-4" long, I pulled the best 4 and moved them to their own 6" baskets buried in hydroton then placed into 5 gallon bucket dwc's for veg and flower. you want to carefully remove the 1.5" basket off of the roots before transplanting into larger basket. I keep the water level about 1" up into the basket until the roots start to show out of the basket, then I drop the level about 1" below the baskets. grow from there.

imo, a 2" basket will not provide much support as a flowering plant sometimes has a 2" - 3" stem at the base and will outgrow a 2" basket. I would use at least a 4" basket. instead of hydroton, you can use lava chips. they are cheap and available at your local hardware store.

peat pellets are cheap too

regards,
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thanks for details man
appriciated!

i only have 1 DWC for all those lowriders and i dont think i can cut so many 6" holes in there 6" is too big for the lowriders (IMO) - this is good for the big plants
and ill do so next time. ive succsesfuly grown 5 big plants using rockwool tho.
only lowriders made me worry and i thought this strain is more sensitive to medium moist.

i wont be able to make any changes there until the day after tomorow (i dont live where the cab is) and i think they will sprout and drop the roots into rockwool.
so i guess ill try to find a solution for a lowrider rockwool grow again - the best i can think of now is to keep the water level further then i used to (make it like 2"). dont think it would make any sense to put those 2" cubes into 4" pots with hydroton. or it does make sense?

thanks again man

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Old 05-27-2008, 02:14 AM
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I would definitely recommend hydroton instead of rockwool as a medium. I put the seeds in 1" rockwool cubes until they sprout and root and then I put them in hydroton for the duration of the grow. I water the plants from the top until the roots drop down.

I also found that Lowryder is a pretty resilient strain and fairly easy to grow so you should have good luck with the growing part in the future, just maybe not the sex part because I haven't had one female to date.

It does make sense to put the cubes into hydroton, it allows a lot more air to get into the roots. I highly recommend getting some. Peace and good luck.
 
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:14 AM
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Sorry bout the double post but I had to second this!!!!
 
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Old 05-27-2008, 02:07 PM
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I would definitely recommend hydroton instead of rockwool as a medium. I put the seeds in 1" rockwool cubes until they sprout and root and then I put them in hydroton for the duration of the grow. I water the plants from the top until the roots drop down.

I also found that Lowryder is a pretty resilient strain and fairly easy to grow so you should have good luck with the growing part in the future, just maybe not the sex part because I haven't had one female to date.

It does make sense to put the cubes into hydroton, it allows a lot more air to get into the roots. I highly recommend getting some. Peace and good luck.
i agree with u man
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hey..that sucks about the males..
is it possible to make hash oil from males if you had that butane oil extractor?
i read somewhere that you can use leaves and the stem from a male plant to make honey oil..??
 
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:16 PM
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hey..that sucks about the males..
is it possible to make hash oil from males if you had that butane oil extractor?
i read somewhere that you can use leaves and the stem from a male plant to make honey oil..??
yeah man
it is possible to make all kinds of stff out of males u just need more of them)
and they have to be mature - and thats not the thing u want in your garden
the lowriders are too small to make anything outta them
u need a field of lowriders to do that)))
 
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just read up on this one. sucks about your males. hope the new ones work out for you. looks like you got your end of the grow right, now the mj gods have to do theirs and give you some girls.
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