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Old 03-18-2008, 09:44 PM
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SMOoVE: Purple Cindy: DWC: 400w Growshow

Hi all, and welcome to my first Growshow! I'm really lookin' forward to your responses, comments, opinions and insight.

This is my second time growing and first attempt at keeping an active grow journal, so let's get started. Here's my setup in a nutshell:

Strain:
Purple Cindy - Highgrade Seed Co.
Light:
400W Agromax (with built in dome reflector)
Method:
DWC (single res bubbler)
Medium:
Rockwool plug & Hydroton in 2.5" netpots

Nutrients:
(Used in various quantities at various growth stages)

Advanced Nutrients
: Micro, Bloom, Barricade, Voodoo Juice, Carbo Load, Big Bud (pH up, down)
Botanicare
: Liquid Karma, CalMag+
Fulmag
: Fulvic Acid (used as ph down)


So basically where I'm at now is day 1 of 12/12 switch over from 18/6 (lights went off at 8am this morning) Let me catch you up and walk you through the lasts 3 weeks:


Feb 03 - Seeds received from Highrade Seed Co.




Feb 23 - Rockwool soaking in distilled water + Liquid Karma, Voodoo Juice, Barricade, and Carbo load @ PH 5.2 (tds ppm 50)



Feb 24 - Seeds soaked in pure distilled water for six hours. (all sank)



Feb 24 - Seeds placed in paper towel inside tupperware...



Feb 24 - ...then placed in light sealed propogation chamber *aka Nacho's home... lol






Feb 25 - All six seeds had sprouted by 5:30 pm when I got home from work. I dropped them all into the Rockwool cubes which were now at a PH of 5.6


Feb 27 - All six had broken the surface, shed their shells, and barely showing the first set of leaves.




Continued on next post...



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Old 03-18-2008, 10:16 PM
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Intro Continued

So now where was I?

Oh yea...

Feb 29 - All good... growin like they should be. Moved them into the netpots with Hydroton.



Here are a few more solo shots from the same day:









Okay so from this point there were a couple of setbacks. The plants were about 3" tall when I got my new Cooltube... and while using a wrench to tighten a screw, it slipped out of my hand and crashed down onto the plants. 1 was crushed and killed instantly and another had minor leaf tears on one side of the the first 3-leaf set, it made it fine. So now I'm down to 5 plants.

The other setback which is minor, as it had no effect on the plants, was I had purchased a UV lamp to supplement my HPS. Well.. when that wrench came down... it took out the ($40) bulb too... ouch! The bummer about that is that I really wanted to get that UV light on them early. Oh well, it'll be here soon (manufacturer is sending a free replacement. woot!) and I'll get started on that.. better late than never.



I'll continue on the next post with the current state of the grow. There's been a pretty huge difference in the last 2 and a half weeks.



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where did you score the purple cindy beans?
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where did you score the purple cindy beans?
Their from High grade seeds.


Hey man you should move your grow log to the highgrade forums, You'll get a free pack of seeds if you have a grow log of their genetics on their. Plus it's also nice to see some new people join!
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smoove nice grow so far. from the name it sounds like we got a bay area grower.

falling equipment happens to the best of us. damn hps killed one of my ladies.
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hi dude

looks like u got the right approach
ill keep an eye on that
good luck

sorry to hear about the death
i killed a lot of plants too)))
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Thanks for checking out my post and for the replies...

PurpleCheeser: You're absolutely right. I should and I will... Free beans for posting a Growshow? That's a no brainer. Thanks for the reminder

cman86: Thanks man. Also, as much as I love SF my heart and soul belongs to SD. Southsiiide.

screwdababylon!: dam man! your setup looks sterile as hell. very clean. I like.


The death of the baby will not be in vein. I started 6 seeds but I'm really only lookin' for 2 females to flower (or even 1). This closet is pretty small (2' X 3' X 6'tall) I think 2 full grown trained plants will fill about every nook and cranny of space I have in there.

Actually from the pictures I took over the weekend... I noticed what looked to me like preflowers. With my limited growing experience I could very easily be mistaken. I thought it was odd that a plant so young might be showing it's sex already.

So here are the most recent pics.

Feb 16 - Got a bit more bushy in there. Here are all 5 plants



The closest one on the right is the tallest for now .



And on the right is the smallest one... it's so dense the nodes are so close together. Also the stem at the base is about 1" thick.



So 4 of the plants are showing these things here (what I thought might be preflowers) they look about exacly the same on all of them right now. kinda pointy like a female flower but might still be a male? lol I dunno, what do you guys think?


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So there's my update for now. Until next time
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question...

Hey guys, I have another question for you.

Looking at the picture below, would you ever consider saying "Yea that leaf looks mostly sativa?"






I don't consider my hands to be small, and there are many leaves that are just about as wide as my middle finger is long. From my readings and research, I'd assume this plant appears to have mostly indica genetics... super wide leaves and very dense bushy growth, am I crazy to think that?
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Hey guys, I have another question for you.

Looking at the picture below, would you ever consider saying "Yea that leaf looks mostly sativa?"






I don't consider my hands to be small, and there are many leaves that are just about as wide as my middle finger is long. From my readings and research, I'd assume this plant appears to have mostly indica genetics... super wide leaves and very dense bushy growth, am I crazy to think that?
no it is indica dominant for sure
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quick update:


Pics from a couple nights ago:



Feb 19: A bit more bushy, a bit more dense.









Early on, the nodes were practically on top of each other






Here's a shot under the canopy of the smallest plant (7 inches tall) very branchy... I'm liking this young Purple Cindy very much.





Hope I can keep things rolling this smooth through to harvest. Thanks for stopping by.

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doob3r : That's kinda what I was thinkin too, but he strain description from they seed bank states it's mostly sativa. In an attempt to learn more about this strain (and MJ genetics in general) I did some research to try and figure out exactly what genetic lines she came from. The first few are obvious and all are very well known strains, but I didn't even know for example... where Northern Lights # 5 or Skunk # 1 genetics came from... so this is what I came up with after a couple hours of google surfing.

Purple Cindy = Oregon Purple Thai X Cinderella 99

Oregon Purple Thai = Chocolate Thai (landrace) X Highland Oaxaco Gold (landrace)

Cinderella 99 = Princess X Shiva Skunk (Princess' mother was a Jack Herer and her father is a totally unidentified mystery plant. Princess was considered a "very special" female.)

Jack Herer = Multiple Haze Hybrid (undisclosed) X Northern Lights #5 X Skunk #1

Shiva Skunk = Sunk #1 X Northern Lights #5

Sunk #1 = Columbian Gold X Afghani Hybrid X Mexican Acapulco Gold

Norther Lights #5 = Afghani Indica Hybrid X Unknown Stabilized Sativa (true NL#5 is clone only. No pure seeds available. Was later crossed with Skunk#1 X Original Haze.

That's what I was able to dig up. I can't confirm how accurate it is because there was a little bit of conflicting information. I just used what I considered t to be the most legitimate sources. Please correct me if there are any mistakes because I'm very curious to know and would hate to misinform anyone reading this post.

...So yea, mostly sativa? I guess it could be... but I agree with you that at this stage it does look mostly indica.


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nice grow set-up you got there. healthy plants too..i bet you cant wait for them tomatoes to come in! :P
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smashio: darn straight I can't wait! mmmm tomatoes.


Grow Update:

I noticed the largest plant was showing signs of stress on the new growth tips. They were yellowing so I dumped my res yesterday morning (for the first time.) Did kind of a mini-flush... they were in a 300ppm nutrient solution for 6 hours before I started slowly raising it back up to 600ppm over the next 24 hours. I Also raised the light about 5 inches because I wasn't sure if it was light stress or nutrient burn. Since it was only happening on the tallest plant which was 8" from the light, I'm pretty sure that's why the tips were yellowing. I'll take some pics later tonight when the lights turn back on.

Question: Could early signs of nute burn show up only on the newest, top most tips of the plant, or does it usually effect the lower and mid level leaves first?

I've read many "Sick Plant" threads, stickies and guides. They all say yellowing/browning tips are the first tell-tale sign of nute burn. But everything I read says that typically it begins on the lower and mid level leaves. Which is also why I believe this is being caused by the plant's proximity to the light. Any thought's or suggestions before I get the pics posted later on?
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lookin good smoove!
When did you add nutes? Did you notice PH swinging?
I hope you figure it out as i'm planning my hydro grow and nute burn/issues seem to rank at the top of list for problems!
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