1st Time Grow Hydro/Scr0G/ICE/T5

[DarthHerbage]

I'm hoping SMKNVtec stops back by since he has the same meter.

I had a couple other questions that I started threads about but it seems I get more answers in my journal lol. So here they are:

Anyone familiar with purple veiny-looking roots? I noticed a few on my oldest plants and I just want to make sure it's normal. Here's a pic of what I'm talkin about:

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The other question I had pertains more to usage than growing. I'm one of those paranoid ass smokers that doesn't like to be around people when I smoke because I get overly self-conscious and shit. However, in the past I've had some really good stuff that made me super-high but left me not self conscious at all so I was able to function socially.

Are there any specific strains/types that are like this I could look for or where would I find good info on what strains give what types of buzzes? I check the seed bank descriptions but I'm not sure if a "up" high or a "couchlock" high would be better or...

I'm also curious as to what strains are good for creativity...

One last question: I guess I'm getting old but I was checking out the smoking/usage forum and I noticed a bunch of terms I'm unfamiliar with.

What are "headies", "mids", and "zips"? Are zips just short for ziplock bags? Headies mean herb that gives a head buzz as opposed to a body buzz? And mids talking about midrange herb? lol

I'm gettin old, but I'm still gangsta damn it!!!

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[DarthHerbage]

Originally Posted by AugustWest

not sure about that meter.. when you go to calibrate he PPM does it ask for a certian one? like "CAL 1000 ppm" or something like that?

as far as the storage stuff, you definately wanna use that so the probe doesn't get dried out. wet a sponge with it and keep it in that cover that goes over the probe.

When I try to calibrate the mS (which I'm assuming is EC) it asks for 12.88 mS and when I try to calibrate the PPT it asks for 664 PPM.

You mean wet a small piece of sponge with the storage solution and keep it in the cap where the PH probe will be? Shiot lol.

Let's see. New shopping list:

12.88mS calibration fluid
664PPM calibration fluid
HI 70300M storage solution
HI 7061M cleaning solution
sponge

I just looked at the instructions for the meter again, and it shows a pic of the meter in which it has PPM instead of PPT. I'll be damned if I can't find the way to switch between PPT and PPM.

Thanks for replyin mane. Francine Dee thanks you as well:

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[DroMan23]

man i just read ure whole journal man its great to see how good ure ice are doing, those purple roots i have no idea man, but those orange/brownish roots thats from root rot or maybe pyrithium, i found specs of brownish/orange on a few of my roots the other day and went crazy after i read a thread on root rot but after seeing ure plants and the difference of our discolorations u calmed the shit outta me...

are u treating those roots? seeing any curling leaves or droopy leaves? shit i am and mine is 10% as bad as ures....damnit lol

beautiful grow tho bro and its comforting to see someones with high temps too, well not nemore...

i think the type of buzz u get from ure chronic all depends on when u harvest... if u harvest earlier more of a cerebral buzz, and if u wait later its more of a stoney kind of buzz... if u kno what i mean, im sure someone will clarify that for yu better than i can

[AugustWest]

Originally Posted by DarthHerbage

When I try to calibrate the mS (which I'm assuming is EC) it asks for 12.88 mS and when I try to calibrate the PPT it asks for 664 PPM.

You mean wet a small piece of sponge with the storage solution and keep it in the cap where the PH probe will be? Shiot lol.

Let's see. New shopping list:

12.88mS calibration fluid
664PPM calibration fluid
HI 70300M storage solution
HI 7061M cleaning solution
sponge

I just looked at the instructions for the meter again, and it shows a pic of the meter in which it has PPM instead of PPT. I'll be damned if I can't find the way to switch between PPT and PPM.

that's odd man.. i can't imagine it would only give you "PPT". The meter i have is more manual than yours i guess.. basically you dip it in the solution and turn a dial till it reads what the solution is supposed to be.
i guess each meter translates these numbers differently
for example: the 1000 ppm solution have is supposed to read on my meter as: 1450 PPM/ 2000uS/ 2.00 ec. Also temperature will effect the readings. the solution numbers are meant to be tested at 77f and the PPM could be effected by as much as 100 points either way depending on the temps of the solution.

[SmknVTEC]

Hey bud, you know, I never callibrated my meter. They said it was callibrated at the factory and it lookes right on to me. I did aeroponic cloning and sure as shit, roots would not grow unless it read 5.5-5.80.

Here's the thing on the strains, indicas have the couch lock, stoned, body high people like to use for sleep and pain. The sativas IMO have a more social, up head high that can result in chatty behavior. That is the one I would think you like. If you get a sativa indica just harvest when most of the trichs are cloudy and that should give up high feeling as well.

As for that purple root I have no idea.

[zababadoo]

i personally am a sativa fan myself i does let you open up to people and ive noticed you dont want to go to sleep when your coming down but with my idicas i harvest when the trichs register
60%cloudy / 40% amber

but then again i go into anxiety attacks when im around more than a couple of people even if i know them and that really helps try doing it one way this harvest and on your next harvest earlier or later just find your own personal groove man

[DroMan23]

man are u seein any effects from the root rot? like droopy leaves or leaves curling up

[DarthHerbage]

Originally Posted by DroMan23

man i just read ure whole journal man its great to see how good ure ice are doing, those purple roots i have no idea man, but those orange/brownish roots thats from root rot or maybe pyrithium, i found specs of brownish/orange on a few of my roots the other day and went crazy after i read a thread on root rot but after seeing ure plants and the difference of our discolorations u calmed the shit outta me...

are u treating those roots? seeing any curling leaves or droopy leaves? shit i am and mine is 10% as bad as ures....damnit lol

I just started using Hygrozyme, but here's my novice opinion on my roots: They seem to be thriving, as they keep growing and taking over the res. I'm not seeing any negative signs on the stems or leaves or anything either. So what I think is that I initially had a problem with light getting into the reservoir that caused orange algae. The orange algae then discolored the hoses and roots. Now that I've got the light problem/algae taken care of, the roots and everything are okay, but still discolored from the initial problem. That's my current interpretation of the roots. They don't stink, they keep growing like crazy, my plants seem fine etc, so I guess I'm just not going to worry about it.

beautiful grow tho bro and its comforting to see someones with high temps too, well not nemore...

i think the type of buzz u get from ure chronic all depends on when u harvest... if u harvest earlier more of a cerebral buzz, and if u wait later its more of a stoney kind of buzz... if u kno what i mean, im sure someone will clarify that for yu better than i can

Yeah, I'm happy to get the temps down. I'll try to time my harvest for the cerebral "up" high then. Thanks for showing up, mane.

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[DarthHerbage]

Originally Posted by AugustWest

that's odd man.. i can't imagine it would only give you "PPT". The meter i have is more manual than yours i guess.. basically you dip it in the solution and turn a dial till it reads what the solution is supposed to be.
i guess each meter translates these numbers differently
for example: the 1000 ppm solution have is supposed to read on my meter as: 1450 PPM/ 2000uS/ 2.00 ec. Also temperature will effect the readings. the solution numbers are meant to be tested at 77f and the PPM could be effected by as much as 100 points either way depending on the temps of the solution.

Yeah, I can't find the damn PPM setting. For the calibration, all I do is set it to calibrate then put it in the type of testing solution I set it for, and it calibrates itself. It just doesn't give me any type of 1000PPM setting for calibrating the EC or PPT, so I guess I'll have to get the types of solution that it calls for. What's another 20 bucks for this grow, right? lol

I can set the multiplier for the EC or whatever (crap gets confusing after a bit) and I just left it at .500. As far as teh temperature, my meter (and I think your meter as well) has something called ATC that enables them to account for differences in temperature...supposedly...

Any idea on the purple veiny roots? They're freakin me out lol.

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[DarthHerbage]

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

Hey bud, you know, I never callibrated my meter. They said it was callibrated at the factory and it lookes right on to me. I did aeroponic cloning and sure as shit, roots would not grow unless it read 5.5-5.80.

Here's the thing on the strains, indicas have the couch lock, stoned, body high people like to use for sleep and pain. The sativas IMO have a more social, up head high that can result in chatty behavior. That is the one I would think you like. If you get a sativa indica just harvest when most of the trichs are cloudy and that should give up high feeling as well.

As for that purple root I have no idea.

Wow, never had to calibrate it? I checked mine when I got it and the PH was off by just a tad. It's nice not having to calibrate it every day.

Thanks for the info on strains. That chatty/social/up high is what I'm mostly wanting so I'll definitely follow your advice on when to harvest. I went for indicas when I got my seeds because of my limited vertical space, but maybe I'll invest in some sativas later this year and just do some extensive topping combined with the screen to keep 'em down.

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[DarthHerbage]

Originally Posted by zababadoo

i personally am a sativa fan myself i does let you open up to people and ive noticed you dont want to go to sleep when your coming down but with my idicas i harvest when the trichs register
60%cloudy / 40% amber

but then again i go into anxiety attacks when im around more than a couple of people even if i know them and that really helps try doing it one way this harvest and on your next harvest earlier or later just find your own personal groove man

Yeah, that sounds like what I want. My next seed purchase will definitely involve some sativas, as long as I can grow them alright in my limited vertical space. Not sure what to do though, as I already have another 28 indica seeds lol. WW, Crystal, and more Aurora Bs.

I feel ya on the anxiety attacks. I've had them before as well, and if I try to smoke and then get put in a social situation it can definitely happen. That's why I chill my ass at home when I smoke unless I'm balancing it out with some alcohol.

One thing I'm curious about:

What makes the biggest difference in the kind of high generally?

Indica versus Sativa difference

strain versus another strain difference

the difference in when you harvest

?

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[DarthHerbage]

Originally Posted by DroMan23

man are u seein any effects from the root rot? like droopy leaves or leaves curling up

Only drooping leaves I see are the ones that the light can't get to anymore. I'm hoping I don't have any root rot and my earlier idea is right...

How would I know if that's what it was? I thought root rot was caused by a lack of oxygen in the water, and I have 2 12 inch airstones in there, plus I just put another bubble disk in... I think the Hygrozyme is supposed to take care of it if that's what it is as well.

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Anyone tired of Francine Dee yet?

[zababadoo]

honestly all of those things affect the high

Sativa vs. indiaca

well, generally the height, characteristics etc. are different between the two but the highs that they provide are as well definately different.

sativa- generally provides you with a uplifting high in which you want to get up and socialize and have fun but i've also noticed with certain strains of sativa you can have a more hallucinigetic effect (don't kill me if im wrong but thats from personal experience)

indica- more of a "holy fuck im fucked" kinda high where it literally feels like anchors are attached to your body and you just reminesce in your own thoughts kinda high hence couch-locked


strain vs. strain

well strain does effect just about every aspect from color, taste, THC %, CBD %, CBN % many factors play in here first i would find what you prefer most an indica or sativa high and then start lookin through strains that way

Difference in harvest time

there are charts out if you search but the color of the trichs and harvest time also affect the quality and the high it gives with most plants harvesting when trichs are cloudy produces the uplifting social high and amber trichs provide a couch-lock high but ive noticed with sativas its a bit different with that

im not saying any of this is fact so no one tear me a new one but this is just from what ive read and experienced

p.s. my favorite is a Sativa strain with 60% cloudy/ 40% amber

[DarthHerbage]

Dude, thanks for the info. I already have one of those Radio Shack microscopes. I just need to locate the trich threads so I can learn when to pull 'em.

You think I can work with sativas in my space?

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[zababadoo]

its tricky but doable i mean you saw how much mine is stretchin and its about 1 1/2 weeks behind all the other plants ironically

i top my plants so thats how i control my height but i would assume your setup would mangae with the screen and all or you could lst which mine is actually taking quite well to it