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Old 02-14-2008, 01:54 AM
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Owie! Somebody's got himself an indoor jungle!
Good work mate and don't worry about the topping, your plant will not produce a gram less.
The biggest downside of topping is that in the end you have to do much more work to harvest!
Doesnt topping during flowering affect yield in a negative way?? not "topping the bud" A La Postman but cutting tops off like this guy did??

Im pretty sure it stresses the plant and makes it concentrate energy on healing itself and recovering from the top, valuable energy that could be spent on creating buds??

I know when I top in veg it definitely halts growth for a minute while the plant figures out wtf happened to its head lol

.02 just curious this is the consensus I have gathered
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:35 AM
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Old 02-14-2008, 04:48 AM
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Dude, seriously that looks like the Congo...awesome grow! ++
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Old 02-18-2008, 06:50 PM
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Old 02-18-2008, 10:28 PM
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Doesnt topping during flowering affect yield in a negative way?? not "topping the bud" A La Postman but cutting tops off like this guy did??

Im pretty sure it stresses the plant and makes it concentrate energy on healing itself and recovering from the top, valuable energy that could be spent on creating buds??

I know when I top in veg it definitely halts growth for a minute while the plant figures out wtf happened to its head lol

.02 just curious this is the consensus I have gathered
The healing process is done in a day, so that leaves quite some time left for flowering, which means the topping would equal about 2% (1 in 50) of all the energy it'll get in 2 months.
2% of a theoretical maximum, which we'd never even get close to because of other issues that limit yield.
Other issues like available space, water and nutes.
And maybe the most important factor : volume of the soil.
So all in all, it does not make a practical difference.
 
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Old 02-19-2008, 02:35 AM
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The healing process is done in a day, so that leaves quite some time left for flowering, which means the topping would equal about 2% (1 in 50) of all the energy it'll get in 2 months.
2% of a theoretical maximum, which we'd never even get close to because of other issues that limit yield.
Other issues like available space, water and nutes.
And maybe the most important factor : volume of the soil.
So all in all, it does not make a practical difference.
Now Im not arguin Im genuiniely curious about this, so can you tell me where you read that it takes one day for a plant to 100% recover from topping?

Even if this is so it's still 24 hours out of that particualar grow, right??

Not 24 hours out of some theoretically perfect grow.

I dont see how you can say it would affect 2% of the "theoretical maximum", I think it would affect 2% of the "potential maximum" that THAT particular plant had under its particular circumstance.

I.E. Under that plants habitat (space, water and nutes, soil, etc . . .) it was gonna get a certain yield without topping which we will call x, if this 2% topping effect is accurate I think it would affect 2% of x not 2% of y which we call the "ultimate yield" which we would get by giving it the ultimate conditions (space, water, nutes, soil . . . .)

Do you see where Im going with this, u cant say that toppping would affect 2% of y when it was never gonna get near y, it was only gonna get to x.

So topping can only affect x

I get my affect and effect mixed up but I hope u feel me, gotta go eat


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Has too much moisture at all been a problem with this grow? They just look a little water-logged...
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Good job so far I think ill subscribe to this one.
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:12 PM
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Has too much moisture at all been a problem with this grow? They just look a little water-logged...
To much moisture? What do you mean by that? The system is designed to have the roots submerged in the water. As long as there is enough dissolved oxygen in the water, there is no problem it being "water-logged" Also, this grow is a single plant. I know its hard to tell, that plant is a monster thanks to sikabuyin. I hope this helped you out with your questions.
 
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Old 02-19-2008, 09:13 PM
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Yet another grow that is botched by not doing LST, a 1000 watter only penetrates 3 feet, why people continue to grow trees inside when they don't have a proper setup for it is beyond me you are doing the plant and yourself a disservice. Keep those girls short and the yields will improve as well as quality since you can properly get light from top to bottom. LST, LST, LST, use it and never go without it.
 
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Old 02-21-2008, 03:47 AM
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Its to bad about the tops but the plant is so huge, the other buds will make up for it. How are the roots in the rubber maid doing? There must be a shitload by now.
Yeah, that's what I figured but even so I didn't have much choice. There is a pic of the roots below.

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Owie! Somebody's got himself an indoor jungle!
Good work mate and don't worry about the topping, your plant will not produce a gram less.
The biggest downside of topping is that in the end you have to do much more work to harvest!
I'm not worried, just a little bummed I didn't get true colas.

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how many times did you top?
One Million. GO BLUE!
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Ouch !!! Thats sad you were forced to do that, I hate seeing plants have to get hacked up like that. That is a common problem with hydroponics, sometimes you get a very fast rate of upward growth when growth is too fast your node spacings are too far apart giving you stretchy plants. Hopefully your girls pull through, just too bad you had to chop the primary tops. Keep your temps at 70-75 to prevent further stretching try to use as least Nitrogen as possible until harvest. Good luck live long and Smoke Well.
Thanks bro. Hydro may be part of the reason for the height but I think it's mainly because she's 100% sativa.

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Hey man, the dark dark green leaves with inward cupping sduggests to me that they have a sligtht nitrogen toxicity. No need for intervention unless your leaves are really browning out like the individual ones you have pictured. Now would be the time to switch to flower nutes if you already have not. Lookin mighty fine my brother.
Thanks for the info, I just did a flush and lowered the total EC and used flower nutes only.

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hows the jungle, u get lost in there???
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I like those budshots! Very nice!
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Doesnt topping during flowering affect yield in a negative way?? not "topping the bud" A La Postman but cutting tops off like this guy did??

Im pretty sure it stresses the plant and makes it concentrate energy on healing itself and recovering from the top, valuable energy that could be spent on creating buds??

I know when I top in veg it definitely halts growth for a minute while the plant figures out wtf happened to its head lol

.02 just curious this is the consensus I have gathered
I didn't have a choice anyway so it's a moot point. But you may be right.

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Dude, seriously that looks like the Congo...awesome grow! ++
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To much moisture? What do you mean by that? The system is designed to have the roots submerged in the water. As long as there is enough dissolved oxygen in the water, there is no problem it being "water-logged" Also, this grow is a single plant. I know its hard to tell, that plant is a monster thanks to sikabuyin. I hope this helped you out with your questions.
Thanks Myles, and yes there is plenty of air bubbles. I have 3 6" air stone disks and one monster pump. And yes, this is ONE PLANT

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Yet another grow that is botched by not doing LST, a 1000 watter only penetrates 3 feet, why people continue to grow trees inside when they don't have a proper setup for it is beyond me you are doing the plant and yourself a disservice. Keep those girls short and the yields will improve as well as quality since you can properly get light from top to bottom. LST, LST, LST, use it and never go without it.
I actually did do LST, refer to post 20. The reason this plant is so tall is because it is 100% Sativa. I will do multiple harvests meaning I will harvest the top, lower the light harvest the middle, lower the light and harvest the bottom. You may think I'm doing some sort of disservice, and do I appreciate your input, however I think I am absolutly maximizing my grow space and available light. To each his own.


I was out of town for almost 2 weeks and she managed without any of my love. She looks a bit sick but I think 100% veg nutes at a lower EC should do the trick.

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Old 02-21-2008, 05:34 PM
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One Million. GO BLUE!
No, GO GREEN!!!!!


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What happened to her??? Calcium def and nute burn looks like but Im no expert at deficiencies.

Looks like you'll still get some buds tho, u got clones of that pheno??
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Old 02-21-2008, 05:42 PM
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i've had plants with way worse looking leaves then that. lol. It takes a little getting used to with how much of which nutes you should add so your plant has just what it needs. Before i got a ph meter, my plants were crispy by the time harvest came around. The buds look alright still. I like the pump idea to empty the res. Ihave to use a 5 gallon bucket and lug it cuz there is no plumbing on the floor where the plants are. Pain in the ass!!!!!!!
 
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:53 PM
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my powerplants had the same spots on the leaves. I gave them some organic calcium and some micronutes that contained calcium and they turned around nicely.

awsome job dude.. i remember when you started with that POS looking seedling in the MG soil..LOL you seem to have it locked down now.
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Old 02-22-2008, 05:24 AM
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my powerplants had the same spots on the leaves. I gave them some organic calcium and some micronutes that contained calcium and they turned around nicely.

Awesome job dude.. i remember when you started with that POS looking seedling in the MG soil..LOL you seem to have it locked down now.
Yeah thats what I was saying probably calcium def and nute burn. I dont think its the strain I think its just a learning curve growing, my flowers had the same shit becase I didnt realize they were gonna need the cal boost and my ph was out of whack, which I believe u said you dont even check right August?? This dude had his ph in check tho right?? much easier to maintain perfect ph with hydro IMO


lol AW I corrected ur "awesome" on accident lol thought that was in MY post lol
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