1st Hydro, 10 Tops, LST from Homemade Fem Seed, FLOWERING

[bulldog]

your grow looks great...are you only growing the one plant? i found with mine that the roots did slow their growth through out the flowering... mine seemed to focus so much on bud production. But hey i have only grown once... anyway, good luck on the sexing i am pulling for a female.... hermi's suck... i had one and it was one of my biggest, a huge bummer.
how old is your girl?

[sikabuyin]

I'm going to kill myself!!!

A few hours ago there was only 3 sets of these now the plant is covered with them. There are a few sets of pistols though. WTF should I do? Should I assume all of my seeds are fucked or did all of the topping cause this?

Damnit!

[SurfsUpBrah]

Well pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and start another one.

Hopefully Female next time.

[SmknVTEC]

Well it looks like Mel Frank was wrong and urgr8estfear was right. Your hermie that you used to pollinate the other female must not have been mostly female. Other than that who knows. Sorry man.

[SmknVTEC]

Is this the female part?

[sikabuyin]

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

Well it looks like Mel Frank was wrong and urgr8estfear was right. Your hermie that you used to pollinate the other female must not have been mostly female. Other than that who knows. Sorry man.

No worries man. It's all just one big learning experience for me. I'm sick of buying but it looks like I won't have a choice for the next 4 months or so. Minutes after I confirmed that they were in fact pollen sacks I started germing my last 6 seeds from Dr. Chronics. Unfortunately I may be doomed already because these are the same strain that hermed in the first place. I noticed on the Dr.'s web page that white widow web is no longer there. Perhaps it's because all of their damn seeds are prone to become hermies. All I need from the six seeds I have is one pure female and I'll just make a mother out of her. I'm thinking what I will do is put all six under 12/12 as soon as they are rooted and determine which is 100% lady then revert to veg let her grow big enough to 4-6 clones and hydro grow all of them. I've been growing for 10 months now and only have one 100% female under my belt and we both know how sick she was. I feel like I'm spinning my wheels and throwing money down the drain. Damn man, I just want to have my own consistent supply, you know.

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

Is this the female part?

I think that's a dog hair. What I think may be the pistols are too small to get a clear pic of without a better lens. Then again maybe it's 100% male.

If it has any girlie parts I'm not stopping. I've got nothing to loose at this point.

What are the chances my seeds are 100% female but the stress from topping caused it to go hermie?

[SmknVTEC]

Then where are the female parts? If that is a hair it looks like a full male not hermie. I doubt topping one time would force it to hermie. Maybe over prunning would but topping once? I doubt it.

[urgr8estfear]

Originally Posted by gonejah17

lookin great man, and Im not one to cause beef AT ALL, and I hope I dont regret this . . . . . . . . . . . . .

but from my GC experience my advice to you is to listen to VTEC over URG8ESTFEAR any day of the millenia . . . . .

no offense AT ALL URGR8EST just my personal experience. You seem like you speak before you think sometimes man, just gotta speak it like I see it

So if Vtec says ur chances are 99% and URGR8EST says u screwed, dont worry man my moneys with Vtec and my money is deep lol

again no offense just hopefully some food for thought

peace man hope I dont eat my foot

Diner is being served!
I'm in no way offended....but you just lost your money.
I thought about it long before I spoke, but then again how could I expect you to know that?

Anyway, I still 'command : VOTE KICK HERMIES' any day of the week.
Bad genetics are the original cause of hermies.
'Stress' as people call it, simpy acts as a trigger for symptoms.
Plants with good genetics you could beat to a pulp and they'd still not go hermie on you.
So Sikabuyin should get some good seeds, reset his grow, and induldge himself in his next grow adventure.
Thats why I think anyway....

[SmknVTEC]

I agree urgr8est. But, you remember my first LED grow ended in hermies from wrong spectrum etc. Those were with good seeds. Stress can trigger good genetics to go bad. I don't think sika stressed his though. But I am still not even convinced he even has a hermie. The picture shows a male and the one female part he says is a dog hair. Can we see a pic of both the female and male parts or did you kill it?

[sikabuyin]

I figure since I have nothing else going I might as well keep her/it going. Here's a picture update. The roots are massive!!!

[sikabuyin]

Look at those massive tap roots coming down on the right!

[soulreplenisher]

im pretty sure you can cut off the seed pods and still produce some pretty good buds. make sure you snip at a 45 degree angle and make sure you get them all and pay attention to new ones forming

[sikabuyin]

Well there are no more balls but there are a ton of bud sites!

She's a little sick though. Could someone help me out with the diagnosis? The ph is 5.3 and I just changed water with micro nutes and very mild flowering nutes (Fox Farm Tiger Bloom and Big Buds) My EC meter hasn't arrived yet so I'm still guessing. I used 1/6th strength.





It's 4:20, I'm getting high

[abitavenger135]

hell yeah!

[gonejah17]

Originally Posted by urgr8estfear

Diner is being served!
I'm in no way offended....but you just lost your money.
I thought about it long before I spoke, but then again how could I expect you to know that?

Anyway, I still 'command : VOTE KICK HERMIES' any day of the week.
Bad genetics are the original cause of hermies.
'Stress' as people call it, simpy acts as a trigger for symptoms.
Plants with good genetics you could beat to a pulp and they'd still not go hermie on you.
So Sikabuyin should get some good seeds, reset his grow, and induldge himself in his next grow adventure.
Thats why I think anyway....

So are u sticking by your claim that hermies breed hermies 100% of the time???

Originally Posted by urgr8estfear

Bad news buddy, hermies breed hermies!
So that's no homemade feminized seed you got there.....

Because your rush to judgment on the subject is what I was talking about. When u told me the sap on the first plant I ever topped was a HUGE problem I almost shit myself lol but it turned out to be fine, there was another example of a post u made where u rushed to judgment and ended up being wrong but I forget now. . . It is documented here on GC and apparently in the Mel Frank Book about hermies and females, is it not??

Originally Posted by sneakers

Hermie pollen + 100% female plant = 99.9% chance of a female seed according to many of the threads here.

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

That quote you quoted from me I wrote verbatim from Mel Frank's book so in theory your seed should be 99% feminized. Treat her right [like you are] and I would be surprised if there was a problem.

Do you have any documentation to the contrary besides ur personal opinion?? I WOULD like to see it and if you DO have some that might have been more helpful to a new grower than just saying "ur screwed dude" its the tone u use and used with me that seems to indicate you find pleasure in telling ppl they're "screwed" this is why I felt a need to stand up and reassure dude that just cuz u say hes screwed doesnt mean he necessarily is.

As VTEC said u didnt even know for sure if it was hermie and you were already gloating lol. Just another example of u rushing to judgment in my opinion. If it turned out male would u have said "oops I was wrong"??? No matter, I am not one to argue like this - I just wanted to make my point clear that it wasn't about whether or not u were right (I personally have NO IDEA about breeding hermie seeds and NEVER claimed to) its just the overzealous way you seem ot burst others bubbles so hastily that bothers me. If you are going to sink someones hopes about something, For god sakes make sure you know what you are talking about, which AT LEAST in my case with the sap after topping U didn't.

nuff said. Oh, and dinner has two 'n's


{EDIT} Some more info on hermies, dont quote me on it

Hermies all depend on the method of hermaphroditism.

If a strain, like Thais, or some good africans have hermie genetics, they sometimes have hermies "just pop up from nowhere." Really, if one is breeding, they really should discard ALL hermies, as these are really genetically inferior, as "mixed sex." Think of all the plants that can be solidly determined to be male OR female. That's what you want. Even plants down the line can show up with "he/shes" of varying degrees generations later. This kind of hermie is BAD. Grow it out, if you like, their good smoke, no doubt.

If you force a plant to hermie from chemical means, like Silver/STS, then these so-called "hermies" really aren't. These "hermies" turn out to produce 100% female seeds. This is the technique actual scientists use for experiments. Like real botanists. That know what they're doing! This technique is peer-reviewed and PROVEN. Anyone who tells you different, just doesn't know what they're talking about (period).

If someone says "just wait until late in flowering..." That's a bad hermie. Really, what seed companies do tell you how they make their female seeds? And why not?

Sure, some people won't like this answer, some will say that STS is carcinogenic (a lie), or poison you don't want in your smoke. The fact is, there won't be enough silver in such a seed to be even measurable in a grown out plant. These people could often be taken as flakes, but I'll just leave them as "misinformed," or mistaken.