3rd grow, first stealth grow and cab grow, all CFL.

[gonejah17]

whatup pimpin??

Man that browning and shit is no good, not sure what thats from. Not the bugs I would say.

I was gonna say, Ive found that keeping them under control - thwarting their progress (like that word huh?) to the point where the scale tips in the favor of the plant, i.e. the mites might still be there in small #s but not enough to damage the plant at the rate its growing, is vital.

Eradication of course is the ultimate goal but u dont want to take too extreme measures that might damage the plant.

I dont know, Im hungover and spitballing but this is what Ive come to find. The plants can still thrive in veg with a little bit of mites on them. But obviously u dont want them and we WILL get rid of them. Im gonna get some other spray shit here soon. Till then Ive been neeming them every few days (low concentration of neem to water and spraying them till they drip, then letting them dry outside the cab out of the light or in the cab with lights and vents off and with strips saturating.) Then I leave strips in the veg cab when not in there, and I check for mites and spray with water or literally squeeze the leaves when I see them. My veggers look good with little signs of mites, but every now and then i still find some under the leaves.

Ill get some shit and kill the fuck out of them soon but untill then its not killin my crop.

Flowering is a different story, cuz towards the end u dont want strips in there. But my OGs live with strips under them and have for the first week of 12/12 and will for a few more weeks. Ill probably stop with the strips at about week 4/5 of flowering maybe?? Then either ladybugs or some other preventative measure. If I get mites at the end of this OG run Ill probably scrap the cab if I dont have floramite or some shit that works by then.

K now thats a rant but I wanted to break down to u what Im thinking as far as mites.

Hope ur good homie

{EDIT} NEEM TIP -- Get a cheapo spray bottle at the 99 cent store and pull the hose out of the sprayer. This way u can turn the bottle upside down and spray much better than w the hose in it. This works great for getting the underside of leaves. Props to UPGRADE on that one

[ocitown]

[quote=gonejah17;2522766]whatup pimpin?? pull the hose out of the sprayer. This way u can turn the bottle upside down and spray much better than w the hose in it. This works great for getting the underside of leaves.Nice tip,+rep and thanx to source!!

[doob3r]

Originally Posted by gonejah17

whatup pimpin??

Man that browning and shit is no good, not sure what thats from. Not the bugs I would say.

I was gonna say, Ive found that keeping them under control - thwarting their progress (like that word huh?) to the point where the scale tips in the favor of the plant, i.e. the mites might still be there in small #s but not enough to damage the plant at the rate its growing, is vital.

Eradication of course is the ultimate goal but u dont want to take too extreme measures that might damage the plant.

I dont know, Im hungover and spitballing but this is what Ive come to find. The plants can still thrive in veg with a little bit of mites on them. But obviously u dont want them and we WILL get rid of them. Im gonna get some other spray shit here soon. Till then Ive been neeming them every few days (low concentration of neem to water and spraying them till they drip, then letting them dry outside the cab out of the light or in the cab with lights and vents off and with strips saturating.) Then I leave strips in the veg cab when not in there, and I check for mites and spray with water or literally squeeze the leaves when I see them. My veggers look good with little signs of mites, but every now and then i still find some under the leaves.

Ill get some shit and kill the fuck out of them soon but untill then its not killin my crop.

Flowering is a different story, cuz towards the end u dont want strips in there. But my OGs live with strips under them and have for the first week of 12/12 and will for a few more weeks. Ill probably stop with the strips at about week 4/5 of flowering maybe?? Then either ladybugs or some other preventative measure. If I get mites at the end of this OG run Ill probably scrap the cab if I dont have floramite or some shit that works by then.

K now thats a rant but I wanted to break down to u what Im thinking as far as mites.

Hope ur good homie

{EDIT} NEEM TIP -- Get a cheapo spray bottle at the 99 cent store and pull the hose out of the sprayer. This way u can turn the bottle upside down and spray much better than w the hose in it. This works great for getting the underside of leaves. Props to UPGRADE on that one

thanks for breaking it down dude, thats pretty much what i was doing except i am dunking in neem for the infestation, im starting to thik the browning and crisping is due to the high heat in the clone cab because i had no vents because of the strip, and the mtes were sucking precious juices from them so they needed more water to stay cool which i neglected to give them, now their all in the same space and im REALLY working to make sure i get the mites under control, really apreciate all the help guys, esp how you guys say "We will get the mites under control" feels like we all have mites and are doing our best to help one another.

things are a wee rough right now but ill get them green again

[doob3r]

I think the spray burned them a little im not sure, i dont think ill use it unless i have to in between neem treatments all the spots you see on the leaves are pretty much see-through, fucking mites man

WW






MK








NO visible mites though.....

[gonejah17]

Good shit . .

I did the same thing with my GDP plant on my first grow, burnt the fuck out of it w safer's 3 in 1 spray. Luckilly the plant ended up male anyway. Ever since then I go real low concentrations. Neems been pretty gentle tho.

I know its frustrating my man but its all good, those genes are around. This is a good learning experience for all of us. Keep those strips in there as long as u can too Im finding its working well with my OGs.

[doob3r]

Well today, i had a good feeling, i feel like i got the mites by the balls i just got to keep on them, their not gone by any means but i think their stunned hard core. could the neem be burning them? i gave them a spray of neem today, heres some pictures

WW





MK it looks like the Christmas tree from that charlie brown shit,






The THC-bombs are ill looking, i think they may have some kind of mold?
oh well fuck it, ill treat it with neem, neem kills molds right?




WTF IS THIS?!?!











the F-13




the f-13 clone in limbo, it looks beter than worse, better worse, lol atleast it rooted!



Let me know whats up fella`s this grow is going a stray big time, i gotta get a grip on it,

[gonejah17]

So srry for ur troubles man. I know its frustrating as hell.

How are u applying the neem?? I think one of the sprays u used burned the plants, but its ok man. Either way everythings gonna be cool And ur learning so much, dealing with one of the worst problems ull ever have with this hobby. So once u feel confident about having it under control ull be king of ur domain

The THCs, I dunno man, whats ur ppm and ph?? res temps?? u got rid of that slime and changed out the res right??

IMO an RO would be well worth it.

U sprayed the THCs too??

The F13 just seems like a troubled ass mofo lol

Plants shouldnt take so slow to a nice xplant like that, but it might be the pics. I remember one set of pics u took the first few seemed really yellow but the others were green. Is she green?? (the mom)

The clone, who knows whats up with that. HEalthy moms are key, but like u said its good u got one rooted. U might want to get a new cut of her if its not to much trouble.

Keep the strips in there as much as u can, with ventilation when u have too, then bomb them with that shit when u can (no ventilation). Dilute ur neem, it shouldnt burn them like that IMO or just dip the clones in a low concentration neem solution. THeyre small enought to dip right?? and keep looking for the bastards, u havent been seeing any right?? I stick bamboo stakes in the soil and check the stakes for mites too, not sure if u can do something like that with the lil ones.

GL and lemme know how it goes. I had more mites than u and Im almost under control (knock on cock) so thats good news for u. Just stay on top of them -- put their balls in a vice

[doob3r]

Originally Posted by gonejah17

So srry for ur troubles man. I know its frustrating as hell.

its all good dude, as long as they dont all die ill be happy, im oing something badly wrong this round ive just got to pinpoint it!

How are u applying the neem?? I think one of the sprays u used burned the plants, but its ok man. Either way everythings gonna be cool And ur learning so much, dealing with one of the worst problems ull ever have with this hobby. So once u feel confident about having it under control ull be king of ur domain
when i apply the neem its mixed just like the bottle says, its 70% neem i was gonna go half strength but the mites were bad so i went with full, it calls for 1oz per gallon, the first neem treatment i dunked them in the solution then i cut my spray bottle like you sad and shake and spray to keep it mixed, i hit them today just to hope they perk back up, i hit them very very light, every plant has had the same treatment so we will see what happens,
The THCs, I dunno man, whats ur ppm and ph?? res temps?? u got rid of that slime and changed out the res right??
yeah i cleaned the shit out of it, i am starting to think it was the first spray i used that harmed the thc bombs, ph stays 5.8 not sure on ppm just going by the bottle with a gallon or so of pure water to make u for any over mix
IMO an RO would be well worth it.
yeah dude im lookin into some filters and shit, just gotta get a few other things done u first. getting distilled tho
U sprayed the THCs too??

The F13 just seems like a troubled ass mofo lol

Plants shouldnt take so slow to a nice xplant like that, but it might be the pics. I remember one set of pics u took the first few seemed really yellow but the others were green. Is she green?? (the mom)
shes really lookin good man, i jus cant take pics worth a damn, i can get in on the others better, and every good pic spot has a few old bad leaves im letting go until they fall, she did take slow to the xplant but she has taken slow to everything it seems she is one picky bitch, but ill have some RR plugs and shit this weekend and ill pull nice clones from her, i would love to see what better growers could o with her, she has a vibe about her that says she is a real winner.
The clone, who knows whats up with that. HEalthy moms are key, but like u said its good u got one rooted. U might want to get a new cut of her if its not to much trouble.
yeah that thing is sad as hell im just damn proud i got it to root lol
she is ready for another try and so am i so it will be all good.
Keep the strips in there as much as u can, with ventilation when u have too, then bomb them with that shit when u can (no ventilation). Dilute ur neem, it shouldnt burn them like that IMO or just dip the clones in a low concentration neem solution. THeyre small enought to dip right?? and keep looking for the bastards, u havent been seeing any right?? I stick bamboo stakes in the soil and check the stakes for mites too, not sure if u can do something like that with the lil ones.
i havent really seen any latley so the neem is working thank god, im done witht he other spray, it burned my shits up,
GL and lemme know how it goes. I had more mites than u and Im almost under control (knock on cock) so thats good news for u. Just stay on top of them -- put their balls in a vice

im glad to hear you got them licked dude! now we just gotta them from coming back eh?

thanks for all the hel everyone ill keep on doing what im doing and you KNOW ill keep ya posted

[doob3r]

damn i did not mean for that post to be that fucked up!

lmfao

[gonejah17]

nah man the post made sense to me

and ur not a bad grower ur dealing with this thing wonderuflly

now that u havent seen any -- keep those strips in there. to blast the ones that might hatch in a few days

Yeah man ur gonna be good I think

Glad the F13 is doing well man, Ull be able to get some good cuts.

And I think the THC bombs just got burnt by the spray like u said. Shits seem cool.

Does ur ph drift much anymore??

Lotsa ups and downs w this growing shit I guess huh?? Till we dial it in like AW and Rump.

[IMgreen]

Lotsa ups and downs w this growing shit I guess huh??

amen brother!

a brief IMgreen sermon -

as a massively successful first time hydro wannabe this is what I figured out:

cool is key!

keep your res chilly, if it feels tepid or warm your fucked.

period.

the holy trinity for hydro as I see it is as follows:

1. ppm - follow the light, not age
2. ph keep it low, but not too low and don't let it get crazy swings*
3. TEMPS - the foundation of it all - be cool

(don't that seem somewhat legit?)



it's such a bitch when stuff goes south but like the gonejah man said, we learn from (& believe me, I'd MUCH rather learn how to deal with mites and shit liek you got now vicariously through you than in MY garden doob3r!)

how are them wild out door ones doing for you?