Southern Ontario Vegetable Garden Journal

[THeCloset]

Hey...

I never would have though that my second journal on these forums would be concerning the growth of vegetables.... but I figured why the hell not.

If you think that there may have been a more appropriate forum of grasscity post this in, let me know.

I live near Toronto, and last year I grew my first vegetable garden ever. I planted, sweet red peppers, hot banana peppers, beefsteak tomatoes, cherry tomatoes, and green onions.

The Tomato didn't really work... I've since discovered in reading that this was due to overwatering.

The sweet peppers didn't work either. I got maybe 2 usable peppers off of 4 plants.

All the other things worked pretty well. I've decided I like growing anything... not just pot. And.. I've learned things from gardeneing that I've been, and will be able to apply to my marijuana grows.

This year I'm going to grow two varieties of tomatos, four plants. 2 medium sized deep red tomatos from storebought seeds, and probably 2 beefsteak tomatos. I'll also be growing one plant in a pot, seperate from the garden. It'll be the medium sized deep red tomatos from seed. I Already have 4 tomato seedlings... the medium sized. I also have one more germinating because I fear that one seedling is too weak.

I'm also planting two varieties of cherry tomatos. Again two plants of each. The first strain is from seed. My friend Larry gave them to me and said they cluster like grapes. So.. for all intensive purposes, I'm calling this strain Larry's grape tomatos. The other is just storebought cherry tomato seeds. I've already got seeds germinating for all my cherry tomatos. I'll also be growing one storebought cherry tomato plant from seed in a pot.

I'm going to plant two varieties of sweet peppers. The first is a mild flavoured red pepper from storebought seeds. They're germinating right now. I'm not sure what the other'll be yet. maybe sweet bannana, maybe some orange peppers. Either way... I don't think the other variety will be from seed, as I'm running out of time for seedlings. I'll also be growing one red pepper plant from seed in a pot.

I'm going to plant two varieties of hot peppers. The first, Larry's Red Hot Peppers. Larry gave me some seeds that belonged to small red peppers with intense heat. They're germinating right now. The second will probably be hot banana peppers from transplant, unless I find some more seeds. I'll also be growing one plant of Larry's Red Hot Peppers in a pot.

I'll be growing one variety of sweet corn, four rows of four plants planted in succesion.

I'll be growing Danvers Red Cored carrots. they're medium length. 6 rows of probably 12 carrots planted in succession.

I'm going to have 2 pumpkin mounds, 2 zuchinni mounds, and 2 watermelon mounds.
I'm not going to get my hopes up on these plants, but simply do my best.

Finally I'll have stringless green beans. three rows planted in succession.

My garden is roughly 4 m by 2 m. 200" by 90"

8 sq meters. 125 sq feet.

TodayI worked in 7 bags, 210L of cow black earth. 2 Bags, 60L of peat compost and shrimp, and 3 bags, 90 L cattle manure. Only, i didn't mix in manure where I'm going too grow my carrots. too much nitrogen makes poor carrots.


Here are my garden plans. I'll post pics of my seed packages, germination, and seedlings either later today or tomorrow.

I'm so glad I took that auto-cad course. I plan to build a 3 ft high fence around the garden... It's not in the plans... but rabbits will be an issue so I've no alternative.

How high can rabbits jump? And how deep will they burrow?


The right side of the diagram points north.

[Disinterest]

Mad props man! I, like you, live in southern Ontario, and I, like you, do a vegetable garden every year. I don't think there's anything wrong with posting it on this forum. The growing principles are the same, and the process of growing nets you an end result (in this case, food, and I'm pretty sure than anyone and everyone who's tried weed appreciates food). Glad to hear it.

[THeCloset]

Thanks alot man. Just the initial response I was looking for. What are you planting?

[vincent47]

No it's all good I think GC should make a seperate forum though.Where's all the other fruit lol the only fruity thing is watermelon, there's so much more that would probably grow good in Canada(I think?)like blueberries,raspberries,straberries,other melons.I'm gonna grow some seedless watermelon myself along with other stuff flowers,herbs etc.

[THeCloset]

Fruit tend to grow on trees, I know there are exceptions. grapes, berries, melons etc. I don't like cataloupe or honeymelon, just watermelon. I have a rasberry bush next to my compost, although I didn't plant it. I never really thought of fruit so much. Plus vegetable seeds are abundant at the stores whereas fruit seeds are rare.

My girlfriend got me a pack of various hot pepper seeds, so now I don't need to get a transplant. It's much more satisfying when you grow from seed yourself. So I'll soak them tonight to speed germination. They'll go into peat pellets tomorrow.

[DierWolf]

Sweet peppers are probably the easiest vegetable to grow, did you have them spaced too far?? they love being jumbled against eachother.

Dont know how much sun you get over there but by the time my peppers get to 9 inches tall they are already flowering and starting to bare its fruit...

This is where i first experimented with Urea, when i saw how sweet pepper plants just going crazy over the stuff i just had to try it on my MJ plants.

[DierWolf]

Here are some pics off my phone i took some time ago..

Green/Red Sweet peppers and BeafSteak Tomatoes.

Also remember Sweet pepper plants cant take too much direct sunlight, they rather the shade, tomatoes love alot of sun, soil should not remain too damp but they do require alot of water, if soil is left to dry out too much it will effect the fruit growth and you will get cracking of the skin ect ect.. Hydo Tomatoe is the easiest way to get good tomatoes all the time. PS (you have to pollenate the plant yourself if indoors, by shaking the plants to release the pollen inside the flower.

[DierWolf]

Oh to answer your pole i think its great your growing veggies, i love to do it, nothing like your own home grown veggies, especially spinage

I would love GC to add a section just for veggie growing..

2 thumbs up to you, i thought i was the only one and never mentioned it

[THeCloset]

lol, thanx for the tips man.

[THeCloset]

Here's a couple of angles on the garden. I've covered some of it with clear plastic to heat up the soil and allow the manure the compost a little further.

I've also covered the area where my first carrot planting will go with a portable green house, it doesn't heat up as much as the clear plastic covering, but it does.


Also attached, pictures of my seed packets.

[THeCloset]

Germination station and my tomato seedlings.

[THeCloset]

Also... I've decided to switch the location of my sweet peppers with the tomatoes. That way the tomatos will shade the peppers somewhat. Look above at my plans to understand better.

Also, if you're here reading a vegetable journal, you may be interested in my new poll.

Should Grasscity Have A Forum For Non-Marijuana Gardens?

[DierWolf]

Yes good idea, put the peppers where the tomatoe plants will give them shade.

get yourself some Urea at the plant store and give them a shot when there a little bigger (especially the peppers) you'll be amazed at what you see in 2-3 days.

[THeCloset]

I think if I do use Urea, I won't buy it.


Diluting human urine 15 parts to one is safe and provides all the urea you need.

[DierWolf]

Dont agree but anyways read the below... dont know why people are associating the Urea you buy off the shelf with Human Piss or any type of Piss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea#Production

Heres the big difference.

Grey water (g/pd)Urine (g/pd) Faeces (g/pd)

Nitrogen 80 % (11) 10 % (1,5) 10 % (1,0)

Phosphorus 50 % (1,0) 25 % (0,5) 25 % (0,6)

Potassium 60 % (2,5) 25 %(1,0) 15 % (0,5)


Human Urine contains only 10% nitrogen (something you can get from the simplest fert)

Your dyluting this down by 15, that equates to less than 1% Nitrogen.

Urea off the shelf is 46%, giving the plant a huge boost in energy... I've tried the Pee crap and
have seen zero results from it.