YinYang Closet Grow

[yinyang]

ok i know your all tired of my "male or female,baby momma drama" with my plants
but this will be my last post of it i promise! lol
yea so this is my favourite plant due to a perfect FIM but im scared she is a hermie...(did i say "she" well heres hoping...)
she has pistills but i found 2 sacs on her and its hard to tell if they are balls or if more pistills will shoot out.

so if someone could help me on the sex one last time it would be appreciated

[yinyang]

on a second note i transplanted 2 of them to bigger pots, ill need to buy more pots for the rest.
I also threw in my fluos in there to add another 80 watts of blue spectrum since ive heards using the hps to veg is not a great idea. thing is...they are balanced/resting on the edge of my big pots and leaning against the wall behind them lol.
now keeping in mind that this is an extremely ghetto grow from an extremely ghetto guy, is this a good idea or bad idea?(dangerous?)
i mean as long as nothing collapses this should be fine right?

and yes im aware of the yellowing, my ph is 6.5,been feeding them 20-20-20 once a week so they have no freakin reason to whine
and yes...they are standing on a ps3 box lol

[SmknVTEC]

yinyang,

Thanks for the invite. I just read the whole thread. Personally, I just throw seedling directly under my 400 watt hps from birth. I do have a Hortilux bulb which has a bluer spectrum than most hps bulbs, so maybe that’s the reason it just kills my 6500 watt CFL’s hands down. I know a lot of growers disagree and say using hps for the first 2-3 weeks of veg wastes energy but, I respectfully disagree. Again, that might be my Hortilux but, I have not always had that bulb; my system came with a Phillip's hps and it grew them fast.

Anyway, I think you should transplant them all to the bigger pots.

Your leaves are yellow from lack of nitrogen so they now need to be at full strength feeding.

As for your hermie, it does look hermie too me. Here is the key; the "pistils" should be white pistils that look like they have hairs on them. If they are those green pistils, they are indeed NOT pistils and are just those green things that come out of some nodes. If they are pistils and the plant seems like it is mostly female, with an occasional male sack, you can grow the pollen out and use it to dust a different, fully female plant to get feminized seeds. However, you need to have a separate closet that is pretty air tight because you don't want seeds in your entire crop and it has to be a mostly female plant with an occasional ball. If you have no other room for it or it seems like a 50/50 male female, just get rid of it.

Good luck, journal looks good and I am now subscribed so, I will be watching.

[hangook420]

Nice grow.. I wish I had an HPS for flowering.. CFLS are good but I wanna see the works that HPS does in flowering.
Those leaves definitely seem to be a nitrogen defficiency. You should give them a nute with more nitrogen for veg and less of the other key nutrients. and for flowering you should go with a nute thats high in phosphorus. This should keep your defficiencies to a minimum throughout their growth stages as the nute company recommend certain doisages so that plant isn't overfed or underfed. Otherwise its probably a pH lockout cuz the nutes are there and there just not eating it cuz of the pH level. What;s ur pH of the water and soil? Cannabis plants grow best in pH levels 6.3-6.8...

Anyways enjoy growing and good luck!!

[yinyang]

thx for the comments, i transplanted them all to bigger pots today even the rumoured hermie...but dont worry i have a plan B for for that.
besides that i flushed them all and ditched the cheap nutes i was using and bought some ionic grow and bloom. i gotta to get this yellowing under control. the guy at the store told me the lambert all purpose peat moss mix i have is ph balanced and i shouldnt worry about ph. check...its still at 6.5

pics coming soon...

my only concern is...how long does it take to re-veg? its been 3 days now and they still look like they are flowering

[yinyang]

well here is my closet today. the pic looks dimmer than it actually is in there. since i flushed them i gotta wait for them to dry out before i start using the ionic grow. im just hoping the re-veg will catch on quickly and start booming...

[SmknVTEC]

I don't know that I would call it re-veg. You just switched lights to 12/12 for a week or two to determine sex right? I think they were never really in flower after 1-2 weeks. Anyway, they should be growing again real soon. Add those veg ferts in here pretty soon too. They look yellow.

[yinyang]

ok i gave them the veg fert yesterday and they perked up today besides that not much has changed.
yea i sexed them and had the light on 12/12 for 2 weeks. and today its been a week with the light back at 18/6...still waiting on new growth!
i wanted this grow to be done by june but i wasnt thinking about the time wasted on sexing. i will never do it again...
ill post pics when they actually start growing agin

[SmknVTEC]

Yeah, I think the slow growth is from the n deficiency. For future reference the plants will show sex all by themselves, without switching the photoperiod, under normal growth, at about week 4-5 from seed. This is one reason why I like clones; they were taken from a female plant and since they are already sexually mature, they can be flowered almost right away. If you have time constraints why not just leave them on 12/12 and finish them up?

[yinyang]

i thought about that^
but if i would give up veg and keep flowering now that means i did all this sexing/re-veg over 3 weeks for nothing. im not having that.
i wanted to finish by june because our lanlord wanted to sell the house and that means we would have ppl coming over to check it out. well after getting a low estimate she decided to just keep renting it out so theyres no more time restraints...still june would have been nice.

[SmknVTEC]

Oh good, no more time restraints. Yeah then keep vegging. What color temp are those CFL's? Also, I just tried the experiment of starting a tiny plant in a large three gallon bucket and damned if I tell you that it grows slower than when kept in tight pots and gradually increased from smaller to bigger pots. A couple of your plants are swimming in those big pots. Don't do anthing about it now but, be aware that might be another reason why the slow growth.

P.S. I would say those plants are indica sativa so give them at least 60 days from when buds first form, to rippen.

[yinyang]

No CFL's. im using 2 40w fluorescent tubes,box said they were for plants and aquariums. im not sure if they are cool or warm white. i didnt know they could slow down in a bigger pot...oh well i know now.

I think they have finally started to veg again i can see the heads pushing through the tops with new growth. i did some LST today on 2 of them. Oops i did it again...pulled it down a bit too much and had a little snap on the 2 headed one. (well more like a rip)
i should have tied a safety string first but um... lets just say this isnt the best thing to do when youre high
im hoping on accidental suppercropping lol. i splinted her but i just hope it didnt hurt her too much.

they are tied down near the fluos i figured they might help a bit beside the hps.

pics...
(its hard to get all 6 of them in a shot)

[Hypeshot]

Try tieing the plant a bit higher near the top nodes , it gets more of a bend out of the stem and much more of an angle downword , Alot less chance of snapping a stem too. Your plants looks great , of course the yellowing but , you'll work that one out hopefully.

[yinyang]

ahhh...ok i wasnt sure exactly at which node i should have tied. ill leave them like they are for now and once again ill know for the next time...

of course the yellowing is slowly being taken care of. im sure the ionic veg is helping actually but since the affected leaves are already yellow it looks like im not taking care of it. ill remove them when they are lifeless so then you will all see nothing but green (hopefully).
2 of them havent gotten any nutes because the soil is still slightly wet from flushing but im planning to feed them all tomorow.

BTW they are looking great today! definitely back to vegging seems like they grew since i last looked at them yesterday. (except the one i snapped)

+Rep to everyone posting in here i appreciate it.

Now for the Good news/Bad news...
My grandmother in Jamaica has passed away. i never met her but ill be going to Jamaica for 2 weeks with my Dad and brother to attend the funeral and take a little vacation. it will be my first time there and it will be exciting to discover the other half of my roots. (no pun intended)
ill be back with a smoke report from the ganja over there lol.
Im sure the trip will be great but being a concerned parent ill be worried about my babies at home...even though my mom will be watering them for me hehe. (on my last grow i went to vancouver for 2 weeks and i was welcomed back by a bunch of spider mites). I know she wont baby them like me but i will make sure she still watches them closely and ill direct her to the complete guide to sick plants,ph,and pest trouble
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

Wish me luck!
or wish them luck hehe

I just tried the experiment of starting a tiny plant in a large three gallon bucket and damned if I tell you that it grows slower than when kept in tight pots and gradually increased from smaller to bigger pots

Ah. Really? Oh. Looks like I made the same mistake then...I wondered why mine seemed a bit slow!! Thank you for this, I must tune in to this thread: good job!