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I was worryed about that too, but mine are all like that on the branches, even my really happy plants. I think some just do that.
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update on pH and ppm

ok now my ppm is 380 and my pH is 6.0. this is what i'm hand-watering my plants with. is this good?? anybody?!?!?!
 
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:19 AM
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more pics (i'm bored)...

here's a pic of the hashberry seedling leading the pack:



and one of the honeymoon seedlings following right behind:



and this is a pic of all my babies haha...




if the red coloring of my stems were hypothetically not genetic, but a sign of some deficiency instead, what would that deficiency be? this shit has me worried lol

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http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688

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Phosphorus (P) Mobile Element and Macro Element

Benefit: Phosphorus does a lot of things for the plant. One of the most important parts of Phosphorus is: It aids in root growth and influences the vigor of the plant and is
one of the most important elements in flowering as well helps to germinate seedlings.
Phosphorus is an essential plant nutrient, and since it is needed in large amounts, it is classified as a macronutrient. Phosphorus is a MAJOR important nutrient in the plants reproductive stages. Without this element the plants will have a lot of problems blooming without proper levels of Phosphorus.


When your plants are deficient in phosphorus, this can overall reduce the size of your plants. Not enough causes slow growth and causes the plant to become weak, to little amount of Phosphorus causes slow growths in leaves that may or may not drop off. The edges all around the leaves or half of the leaves can be brownish and work its way inwards a bit causing the part of the leaves to curl up in the air a bit. Fan leaves will show dark greenish/purplish and yellowish tones along with a dullish blue color to them. Sometimes the stems can be red, along with red petioles that can happen when having a Phosphorus deficiency. This isn’t a sure sure sign of you having one though, but can be a sign. Some strains just show the red petioles and stems from its genes.
So pretty much the overall dark green color with a purple, red, or blue tint to the fan leaves is a good sign of a Phosphorus deficiency. Having Cold weather (below 50F/10C) can make phosphorous absorption very troublesome for plants.
Many people get a Phosphorus deficiency confused with a fungus problem because the ends of the leaves look like a fungus problem, But the damage occurs at the end of the leaves. side of the leaves and has a glass like feeling to it as if it had a ph problem. Parts affected by a phosphorus deficiency are: Older Leaves, Whole plant, Petioles.

Too much Phosphorus levels affect plant growth by suppressing the uptake of: Iron, potassium and Zinc, potentially causing deficiency symptoms of these nutrients to occur def in plants. A Zinc deficiency is most common under excessive phosphorus conditions,
As well as causing other nutrients to have absorption troubles like zinc and copper. Phosphorus fluctuates when concentrated and combined with calcium
Careful though, if the plants are growing and the leafs look healthy. I reccomend not fucking with it. mine have been red, or had red parts, the whole time, mostly indica blend.

btw, you shouldnt be adding any nutes to this water.. ph ballanced water, nothing else.
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thanks mordgrow!!! hmmmmmmmmmm...the potting soil i used has plenty of phosphorous i believe...hopefully its not a deficiency then...

...i won't be adding nutes till about 3 or 4 weeks. when i start adding them should i just use a quarter-strength mix?
 
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lots of schools of thougth here, and i'm definatly no expert.

but it makes sense to start low and work your way up, watch how your plants react. if the plants are happy 'n using up 25ppm or more per day, raise by 50 ppm, keep the PH levels stable, watch the plants always check your plants at least a half hour or hour after adding your nutes to make sure they didnt fall over and die or something..

umm, watch your plants.. , did i say watch your plants?

yeah thats pretty much it. I dont know much about soil. and i only know a little about hydro.
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fuck!

if only some of my stems were red/purple, i would have believed that its just a phenotype that some varieties express...BUT in my case, i have 4 different types of herb growing and they ALL have red stems...i don't really think its a phosphorous deficiency though...is there any other explanation for this?!?!?! ahhh!!!
 
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HIGH All, just leaf them alone...they are just little seeders..red stems happen All along....relax...your're growing to be ok.

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HIGH All, another thing is the RW...they are soooo not for someone just starting out...best thing (imho) is the clay pellets...so much better.
 
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another pic update...

my plants seem to be doing fine w/ the exception of the red/purple stems. here's a few new pics that i took:


















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lighting?

does anybody know how close i can place my plants under the light safely? my fluoros don't produce much heat at all...
 
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stick the floro's 1"-2" off the top of your plants.. the closer the better with floros at this stage!

is your water 380 PPM on its own? wow i thought mine was bad at 170-180ppm
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lookin real nice dewd!
don't worry about anything at this point except watering when you need to with good PH water.
the red stems are no biggie, mine were like that early on as well...

water, light and a little fan and watch them bitches grow.

peace and GL man!
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is 380 ppm bad?
well, not not "bad" but think about it. your water has 380 parts per million of "something" suspended in it.

Most my plants dont have more than 450PPM for their grow nute solution, the bigger of my plants is only around 650ppm

but i'm hydro, so i kinda get hung up on that more.
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