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chicken · #31 (**permalink**) 01-28-2007, 04:31 PM

if your going to get a tester, dont get one that has a ''probe'' that you stick in the soil... those things are useless,

get the paper kind that you dip in the runoff. as smknvtech, stated , be comfortable on your grow!!!! i did get a chuckle on your ''drama'' at each little detail of your grow.

hakunna mattata, let it flow!!!!!! [ and stay away from ''any'' miracle grow products'', there not made for our plants!!]
good luck!!!

SmknVTEC · #32 (**permalink**) 01-28-2007, 09:04 PM

The papers and the run-off testers are about $5.95 each.
Fertilize when they are about three weeks old.

Potmaniac · #33 (**permalink**) 01-28-2007, 09:40 PM

Hangook good work. They might be a bit shakey after soil change (plants are sensitive to enviromental chandges). Bit different ph of soil you gave them could shock them wery, wery mildly. They will just learn to digest in new enviroment. They grow and thats the most important thing.
Do not take any radical steps now, and stay away from nutes for time to come.
Let them grow into pots, and when they reach size, when you think you should start feedind them (5-7 internodes) repot them to final containers (as big as you can).
When they accomodate and put some new grow, it will be time to think about flowering.
When you set light to 12/12 they will grow rapidly, man you gonna love it.
Up to this point soil should carry enough food to get them through nicely.
Familiarise yourself with ph testing.
Now, when plants start to flower, it is about two-three weeks after light change you want to feed them. Slowly, and not to much. Increase doses but do not exede doses staded on packaging (gennerally those people want you to use as much of their stuff as you culd, but if you overdose it is a big trouble and loss on crop).
Unless your leaves show defficiencies you don't have to worry.
Good luck.
They look good to me.

hangook420 · #34 (**permalink**) 01-28-2007, 11:59 PM

Well its day 13... the dome was taken off two days ago.. Thanks for the info there is no reason why i should panick... except i love them so much.. anyways.. i checked the plants today and looks like they're in good condition...

The one thats growing the fastest is starting to get some yellow on the leaves here are some pics of the leaves... I couldn't post pics of the plant cuz the size is to big... can u tell me if it is already signs of defiencies...??
plants are growing bigger!! I can't wait to see the progress... Well here are the pics of the leaf with yellow and some of the other plants(tried to upload tome good ones but file size too big! dammit)

Potmaniac · #35 (**permalink**) 01-29-2007, 09:26 PM

If you using windows xp you should have 'paint'. Have look in menu for strech&skew.
I do my pictures this way, as decent cameras tend to make them big.

Potmaniac · #36 (**permalink**) 01-29-2007, 09:32 PM

I cant say from pics how big are containers plants are growing in, but if they as wide as plants they are to small. They could be outgrowing them.
So I would start with bigger containers.

hangook420 · #37 (**permalink**) 01-31-2007, 02:04 AM

Thanks for the info on "paint" Potmaniac.. I'll try that next time if my pics are too big.. and I think the plants are starting to outgrow their containers so I am going to repot.. Well I have transplanted the healthiest and fastest growing plants into a bigger pot. The rest will be done later on today or tomorrow.. after i have transplanted into bigger pots i will post pictures. I went out and got a pH tester(paper tester) and the water I've been feeding it has a pH lvl of between 6.4-6.8... Is this a good range?? I haven't test the soil pH yet.. do i just rub moist soil onto the litmus paper?? Anyways they're out of their dome(incubator) and are constantly being fed 24 hours of light. Oh yeah is bottled water good for plants?? cuz when i run out of distilled water i won't have any water to feed it.. is bottled water a good alternative source of distilled water or better???
OH yeah for nutes I think I'm gonna try going with BioCanna for nutes... I was gonna go with Iguana Juice but I think BioCanna will be better..

SmknVTEC · #38 (**permalink**) 01-31-2007, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hangook420

the water I've been feeding it has a pH lvl of between 6.4-6.8... Is this a good range??

Perfect range.
Just use that bottled water.

hangook420 · #39 (**permalink**) 01-31-2007, 07:16 AM

Well its day 16 and the plants are looking nice overall... I have transplanted some of them into bigger containers but i don't think i have enough space in the veg room to pot all of them into bigger pots...I'm planning on using fertilizer soon... thinking of buying BioVega by Biocanna... anyways here are some pics of the plants.. some seem to have some sort of problem but i can't identify.. if anyone sees anything wrong please tell!(in pics 3 and 4)... anyways here are some of the pics... I'm thinking of flowering them when they are about a foot tall...
Enjoy the pics...

hangook420 · #40 (**permalink**) 02-01-2007, 08:19 AM

I'm thinking of LSTing some of the plants but i am wondering if it will take up more space... width wise.. Because I am planning on flowering 8 plants in a 4ftX2.5ft flower box. I wanna LST to get a bunch of nice tops but i am worried it will take up to much space.. what do u guys think?? Will I be able to LST a few of the plants in a 4ftx2.5ft flower box?? What should I use to tie down the plants?? its day 17 now and the Rhino's are looking nice.. Currently I have 6 white rhino's and 4 COB's... COB's aren't as healthy as WR... The cali orange leaves don't seem to be growing properly... wrinkles and stuff... don't grow as fast as the WR either anyone know why?? Is it because of the strain??

SmknVTEC · #41 (**permalink**) 02-03-2007, 05:05 AM

Yeah it could be strain differences. They look fine. Check the soil pH. What is it at? I can't comment about the LST because I don't do it, but if you have height restrictions it certainly is a good idea.

hangook420 · #42 (**permalink**) 02-05-2007, 05:06 AM

Sorry about the late update of the plants.. didn't really have time getting around to posting it due to work.. anyways the plants are doing great the veg box is getting smaller!! I took pics today.. but i don't have the cord right now to transfer so I will transfer them soon to post.. I decided not to LST.. Think its a little late now.. and i don't think i will have problem with height of the flower box.. its gonna be around 7 ft tall...The strongest growing plant has a nice thick stem now and there are a lot of branching coming out of the internodes... I love how the plants grow... so beautiful...
Anyways I have a question about fimming and topping... Will it slow down the time to harvest if I fimm or top the plants?? around how much time will it delay...??
pics will be posted within the next 24 hours..

hangook420 · #43 (**permalink**) 02-05-2007, 05:09 AM

Its been about 21 days now, from seed and I think they are ready to be fed fertilizers but i am not sure... so i was wondering if u guys think its ready for ferts after 21 days... thanks for the input..

SmknVTEC · #44 (**permalink**) 02-06-2007, 07:09 PM

Yo man.

Fimming and topping should only slow it down initially. Do not fim or top during flower; do it during veg. That way it won't slow flower down at all because they are not in flower. Yes, 21 days is about when my indica sativa mix's start to need fertilizer. Start at 1/4-1/2 strength.

hangook420 · #45 (**permalink**) 02-07-2007, 09:41 AM

Sorry I haven't posted pics yet.. I don't have the usb cable... gonna get it by tomorrow so i can upload pics and post them. Anyways I have moved the photoperiod to 18/6 and am gonna start using nutrients tomorrow... using rhizotonic, cannazym, and BioVega(bioCanna).. I'm using the BioCanna line up of nutrients for this grow... I am planning on putting them into flowering some of the plants in about a week and half... I wanna try and get some harvest for April 20! smoke my first harvest on 4:20.. anyways I'll update soon with pics...
Happy Smoking!

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#31 (permalink) 01-28-2007, 04:31 PM
chicken chicken-choker Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ON PLANET-----'' X '' Posts: 4,673	if your going to get a tester, dont get one that has a ''probe'' that you stick in the soil... those things are useless, get the paper kind that you dip in the runoff. as smknvtech, stated , be comfortable on your grow!!!! i did get a chuckle on your ''drama'' at each little detail of your grow. hakunna mattata, let it flow!!!!!! [ and stay away from ''any'' miracle grow products'', there not made for our plants!!] good luck!!! __________________ .. Friends scoobydooby67 has not made any friends yet Befriend scoobydooby67

#32 (permalink) 01-28-2007, 09:04 PM
SmknVTEC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 6,280	The papers and the run-off testers are about $5.95 each. Fertilize when they are about three weeks old. __________________ "I build cars for young men that only old men can afford"- Enzo Ferrari (1898-1988) LED Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ghts-pics.html PGAMG Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...acle-grow.html MG vs. Generic Soil Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...icle-grow.html

#33 (permalink) 01-28-2007, 09:40 PM
Potmaniac Honey.I can fly! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: My own green planet. Posts: 263	Hangook good work. They might be a bit shakey after soil change (plants are sensitive to enviromental chandges). Bit different ph of soil you gave them could shock them wery, wery mildly. They will just learn to digest in new enviroment. They grow and thats the most important thing. Do not take any radical steps now, and stay away from nutes for time to come. Let them grow into pots, and when they reach size, when you think you should start feedind them (5-7 internodes) repot them to final containers (as big as you can). When they accomodate and put some new grow, it will be time to think about flowering. When you set light to 12/12 they will grow rapidly, man you gonna love it. Up to this point soil should carry enough food to get them through nicely. Familiarise yourself with ph testing. Now, when plants start to flower, it is about two-three weeks after light change you want to feed them. Slowly, and not to much. Increase doses but do not exede doses staded on packaging (gennerally those people want you to use as much of their stuff as you culd, but if you overdose it is a big trouble and loss on crop). Unless your leaves show defficiencies you don't have to worry. Good luck. They look good to me. __________________ I just like it.

#35 (permalink) 01-29-2007, 09:26 PM
Potmaniac Honey.I can fly! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: My own green planet. Posts: 263	If you using windows xp you should have 'paint'. Have look in menu for strech&skew. I do my pictures this way, as decent cameras tend to make them big. __________________ I just like it. Last edited by Potmaniac; 01-29-2007 at 09:27 PM. Reason: Good skunk.

#36 (permalink) 01-29-2007, 09:32 PM
Potmaniac Honey.I can fly! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: My own green planet. Posts: 263	I cant say from pics how big are containers plants are growing in, but if they as wide as plants they are to small. They could be outgrowing them. So I would start with bigger containers. __________________ I just like it.

#37 (permalink) 01-31-2007, 02:04 AM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	Transplanting to bigger containers... Thanks for the info on "paint" Potmaniac.. I'll try that next time if my pics are too big.. and I think the plants are starting to outgrow their containers so I am going to repot.. Well I have transplanted the healthiest and fastest growing plants into a bigger pot. The rest will be done later on today or tomorrow.. after i have transplanted into bigger pots i will post pictures. I went out and got a pH tester(paper tester) and the water I've been feeding it has a pH lvl of between 6.4-6.8... Is this a good range?? I haven't test the soil pH yet.. do i just rub moist soil onto the litmus paper?? Anyways they're out of their dome(incubator) and are constantly being fed 24 hours of light. Oh yeah is bottled water good for plants?? cuz when i run out of distilled water i won't have any water to feed it.. is bottled water a good alternative source of distilled water or better??? OH yeah for nutes I think I'm gonna try going with BioCanna for nutes... I was gonna go with Iguana Juice but I think BioCanna will be better..

#40 (permalink) 02-01-2007, 08:19 AM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	about LST I'm thinking of LSTing some of the plants but i am wondering if it will take up more space... width wise.. Because I am planning on flowering 8 plants in a 4ftX2.5ft flower box. I wanna LST to get a bunch of nice tops but i am worried it will take up to much space.. what do u guys think?? Will I be able to LST a few of the plants in a 4ftx2.5ft flower box?? What should I use to tie down the plants?? its day 17 now and the Rhino's are looking nice.. Currently I have 6 white rhino's and 4 COB's... COB's aren't as healthy as WR... The cali orange leaves don't seem to be growing properly... wrinkles and stuff... don't grow as fast as the WR either anyone know why?? Is it because of the strain??

#41 (permalink) 02-03-2007, 05:05 AM
SmknVTEC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 6,280	Yeah it could be strain differences. They look fine. Check the soil pH. What is it at? I can't comment about the LST because I don't do it, but if you have height restrictions it certainly is a good idea. __________________ "I build cars for young men that only old men can afford"- Enzo Ferrari (1898-1988) LED Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ghts-pics.html PGAMG Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...acle-grow.html MG vs. Generic Soil Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...icle-grow.html

#42 (permalink) 02-05-2007, 05:06 AM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	late update.. Sorry about the late update of the plants.. didn't really have time getting around to posting it due to work.. anyways the plants are doing great the veg box is getting smaller!! I took pics today.. but i don't have the cord right now to transfer so I will transfer them soon to post.. I decided not to LST.. Think its a little late now.. and i don't think i will have problem with height of the flower box.. its gonna be around 7 ft tall...The strongest growing plant has a nice thick stem now and there are a lot of branching coming out of the internodes... I love how the plants grow... so beautiful... Anyways I have a question about fimming and topping... Will it slow down the time to harvest if I fimm or top the plants?? around how much time will it delay...?? pics will be posted within the next 24 hours..

#43 (permalink) 02-05-2007, 05:09 AM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	is it time for ferts? Its been about 21 days now, from seed and I think they are ready to be fed fertilizers but i am not sure... so i was wondering if u guys think its ready for ferts after 21 days... thanks for the input..

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#44 (permalink) 02-06-2007, 07:09 PM
SmknVTEC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 6,280	Yo man. Fimming and topping should only slow it down initially. Do not fim or top during flower; do it during veg. That way it won't slow flower down at all because they are not in flower. Yes, 21 days is about when my indica sativa mix's start to need fertilizer. Start at 1/4-1/2 strength. __________________ "I build cars for young men that only old men can afford"- Enzo Ferrari (1898-1988) LED Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ghts-pics.html PGAMG Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...acle-grow.html MG vs. Generic Soil Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...icle-grow.html

#45 (permalink) 02-07-2007, 09:41 AM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	No pics yet sorry Sorry I haven't posted pics yet.. I don't have the usb cable... gonna get it by tomorrow so i can upload pics and post them. Anyways I have moved the photoperiod to 18/6 and am gonna start using nutrients tomorrow... using rhizotonic, cannazym, and BioVega(bioCanna).. I'm using the BioCanna line up of nutrients for this grow... I am planning on putting them into flowering some of the plants in about a week and half... I wanna try and get some harvest for April 20! smoke my first harvest on 4:20.. anyways I'll update soon with pics... Happy Smoking!