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hangook420 · #16 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 02:01 AM

Hey guys I was looking over the plants and i noticed the leaves on WR-1C( on the 4picture in the thread above) are yellowing on the outside a little... Can anyone tell me if there is a some sort of nutrient deficiency, i don't think it is overwatering cuz I didn't give it that much water.. a few sprays with the sprayer for each plant... Maybe it is a N or Mg deficiency..? It is happening to my stongest looking plant... i hope nothing bad will happen....

SmknVTEC · #17 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 05:02 AM

Too early for a deficiency unless the soil pH is off and locking out something. I see how it is a bit yellow but, this might be normal. Give them a few days before getting too worried. Also, why are they under that humidity dome? They should be out in the open with a fan blowing by them.

hangook420 · #18 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 05:56 AM

Thanks for the info on the yellowing of the leaves.. I'll give it a few days like u said b4 i start panicking.. I don't think the soil pH is off becuz the new mix that i bought is pH stabilized.. They are inside the humidity dome because someone told us we should keep them in there until they grow out of it.. maybe i'll give it a few days b4 taking off the dome or let it grow out of it because its at a good humidity i heard higher humidity and lower temp increases the probability of females. Oh yeah i also need to get a small fan to fit inside the box... any suggestions on what kind of fan i should use? computer fan? regular fan? Anyways thanks for the info.. i'll be makin an update soon...

hangook420 · #19 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 06:06 AM

Oh yeah i forgot to add.... Thanks for doing research on the Rhizotonic Potmaniac... Now i know it won't be so bad... it wasn't that expensive.. but i guess if it doesn't do nething its a waste of cash... but if it makes my babies stronger than it is money well spent..

anyways thanks again for the info

chronicsmokeyaz · #20 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 06:13 AM

cool thread man, cant wait to see what the cali orange is gonna look like

Potmaniac · #21 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 03:53 PM

Your welcome M8. Anytime.

hangook420 · #22 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 09:03 PM

Well its day 10 and its shown progress since transplantation although there has been some signs of decoloration in the leaves and some leaves are a little wrinkled.. does anyone know what the problem might be.. i heard from some1 that it might be due to transplantion.. One of the plants seem to be growing a lot faster than the others... enjoy... I'm not too worried about the decoloration but i am a little worried about the wrinkled leaves... anyways here are the pics... tell me what u think... I have some pics here of some plants with wrinkles and some plants with yellow on them...

hangook420 · #23 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 09:10 PM

Here are some pics of my healthiest plant and other pics i took..

Shipoopi · #24 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 03:52 AM

man, that WR 1-C better come out to a nice mother....it would be such a waste for that to come out male...
can't wait for them to be smoked!

hangook420 · #25 (**permalink**) 01-26-2007, 10:36 PM

I thought bag seeds were seeds from seed banks but after a little reading earlier today i realized that bag seeds are found with weed in baggies. These seeds were shipped from Amsterdam which were bought ona website..

hangook420 · #26 (**permalink**) 01-27-2007, 02:11 AM

Well here is and update on the plants... the ones that had wrinkled leaves grew slow and the ones with yellow didn't seem like it did anything to the growth rate.. Here are some picks of the Cali oranges.. they seem to be having a harder time than the White Rhino's(pics on the next thread),,, can anyone tell me what the problem could be?? ... I;m getting more worried for the sick ones...

hangook420 · #27 (**permalink**) 01-27-2007, 02:21 AM

Here are the pics of the White Rhino they seem to be developing a lot better than cali orange.... Can anyone tell me why the leaves on pic 5 on the previous thread is lower and touching the bottom first leaves?? pic 4 and 5 of previous thread are the same plants...
Well here are the Rhino's...
Couldn't upload some of the better developed plants... size is too big.. will upload pics of it tomorrow... i'll take pics again to match the file size hopefully... Please comment on how u think the plants are doing... Thank you

!!!

Shipoopi · #28 (**permalink**) 01-27-2007, 05:24 AM

k, the decoloring of the leaves is due to lack of either iron or manganese at such young age.
The wrinkling of the leaves can be effected by the failure of feeding one of these nutrients: optassium, zinc, boron, or molybdenum. describ to me what is the symptom of the wrinkle and i'll find the solution to it.
and as for the last part, is the leave curling over or under? if it is curling over it means a lack of manganese is given to the plant, and if it is curling under it can be either there's a shortage of copper, or it could be that you're over-fertilizing that plant. i'm guessing that the plant is curling under since it's touching the lower leaves. if it is a copper deficiency, you can see that the leaves are limp and turn under at the edges, and the tips and edges of the leaves may die and whole plant looks wilted. a fungicide can be used as a foliar spray to relieve the deficiency. if it is a symption of manganese deficiency, it usually includes yellowing and dying of tissue between veins, and it appears first on new growth. it can be solved using an iron-zinc-manganese supplement
i might be wrong about some of what's happening to the plant since i'm not there in person, but from my research these are some of the solutions to what you say. i could be wrong, and i hope some more experienced people on this forum can give a hand if there are anything that could be added or corrected.
anyway, update me on what's going on with the plants, and i'll try to be of some help.

SmknVTEC · #29 (**permalink**) 01-28-2007, 05:26 AM

What?

There is no reason why these plants should be deficient in anything at this early stage. The only way they could have deficiencies is if the pH is off. pH is a big cause of leaf twist. I could care less that the bag says pH adjusted. What is it pH adjusted to? Most likely adjusted to vegetables not weed. You need to check the soil pH wish some papers, hydro run-off tester or even a soil pH meter.

Do not feed this plant. They do not need any food until week three of life. Also, you are panicking again. Your plants look fine. Sometimes the leaves just come out looking funny; it is nothing to worry about.

Oh and a humidity dome is only necessary for clones. Seedlings should not be grown under a dome. The best temps to keep them at are between 65-75 degrees and humidity 40-60 percent. Going a bit out of these ranges will only cause slowing growth. Above 60 percent humidity could invite mold. Keep the dome off for seedlings, on for clones.

hangook420 · #30 (**permalink**) 01-28-2007, 07:11 AM

okay so its not a nutrient deficiency... so i think im gonna get a pH tester... ne idea how much it would cost?? The gro mix says its mixed with dolomite lime which should help the ph lvl.. but maybe i should check it anyways... thanks for the advice on the plants... so when should i start giving them nutes?? alright so im gonna check the pH and i'll update very soon with pics...

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#16 (permalink) 01-25-2007, 02:01 AM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	WR-1C a little yellow on leaves Hey guys I was looking over the plants and i noticed the leaves on WR-1C( on the 4picture in the thread above) are yellowing on the outside a little... Can anyone tell me if there is a some sort of nutrient deficiency, i don't think it is overwatering cuz I didn't give it that much water.. a few sprays with the sprayer for each plant... Maybe it is a N or Mg deficiency..? It is happening to my stongest looking plant... i hope nothing bad will happen....

#17 (permalink) 01-25-2007, 05:02 AM
SmknVTEC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 6,280	Too early for a deficiency unless the soil pH is off and locking out something. I see how it is a bit yellow but, this might be normal. Give them a few days before getting too worried. Also, why are they under that humidity dome? They should be out in the open with a fan blowing by them. __________________ "I build cars for young men that only old men can afford"- Enzo Ferrari (1898-1988) LED Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ghts-pics.html PGAMG Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...acle-grow.html MG vs. Generic Soil Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...icle-grow.html

#18 (permalink) 01-25-2007, 05:56 AM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	about the yellowing Thanks for the info on the yellowing of the leaves.. I'll give it a few days like u said b4 i start panicking.. I don't think the soil pH is off becuz the new mix that i bought is pH stabilized.. They are inside the humidity dome because someone told us we should keep them in there until they grow out of it.. maybe i'll give it a few days b4 taking off the dome or let it grow out of it because its at a good humidity i heard higher humidity and lower temp increases the probability of females. Oh yeah i also need to get a small fan to fit inside the box... any suggestions on what kind of fan i should use? computer fan? regular fan? Anyways thanks for the info.. i'll be makin an update soon...

#19 (permalink) 01-25-2007, 06:06 AM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	oh yeah thanks Potmaniac Oh yeah i forgot to add.... Thanks for doing research on the Rhizotonic Potmaniac... Now i know it won't be so bad... it wasn't that expensive.. but i guess if it doesn't do nething its a waste of cash... but if it makes my babies stronger than it is money well spent.. anyways thanks again for the info

#20 (permalink) 01-25-2007, 06:13 AM
chronicsmokeyaz Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: SO CAL Posts: 920	cool thread man, cant wait to see what the cali orange is gonna look like __________________

#21 (permalink) 01-25-2007, 03:53 PM
Potmaniac Honey.I can fly! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: My own green planet. Posts: 263	Your welcome M8. Anytime. __________________ I just like it.

#24 (permalink) 01-26-2007, 03:52 AM
Shipoopi Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	man, that WR 1-C better come out to a nice mother....it would be such a waste for that to come out male... can't wait for them to be smoked!

#25 (permalink) 01-26-2007, 10:36 PM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	just realized these are not bag seeds I thought bag seeds were seeds from seed banks but after a little reading earlier today i realized that bag seeds are found with weed in baggies. These seeds were shipped from Amsterdam which were bought ona website..

#28 (permalink) 01-27-2007, 05:24 AM
Shipoopi Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3	k, the decoloring of the leaves is due to lack of either iron or manganese at such young age. The wrinkling of the leaves can be effected by the failure of feeding one of these nutrients: optassium, zinc, boron, or molybdenum. describ to me what is the symptom of the wrinkle and i'll find the solution to it. and as for the last part, is the leave curling over or under? if it is curling over it means a lack of manganese is given to the plant, and if it is curling under it can be either there's a shortage of copper, or it could be that you're over-fertilizing that plant. i'm guessing that the plant is curling under since it's touching the lower leaves. if it is a copper deficiency, you can see that the leaves are limp and turn under at the edges, and the tips and edges of the leaves may die and whole plant looks wilted. a fungicide can be used as a foliar spray to relieve the deficiency. if it is a symption of manganese deficiency, it usually includes yellowing and dying of tissue between veins, and it appears first on new growth. it can be solved using an iron-zinc-manganese supplement i might be wrong about some of what's happening to the plant since i'm not there in person, but from my research these are some of the solutions to what you say. i could be wrong, and i hope some more experienced people on this forum can give a hand if there are anything that could be added or corrected. anyway, update me on what's going on with the plants, and i'll try to be of some help. Last edited by Shipoopi; 01-27-2007 at 05:36 AM.

#29 (permalink) 01-28-2007, 05:26 AM
SmknVTEC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tornado Alley Posts: 6,280	What? There is no reason why these plants should be deficient in anything at this early stage. The only way they could have deficiencies is if the pH is off. pH is a big cause of leaf twist. I could care less that the bag says pH adjusted. What is it pH adjusted to? Most likely adjusted to vegetables not weed. You need to check the soil pH wish some papers, hydro run-off tester or even a soil pH meter. Do not feed this plant. They do not need any food until week three of life. Also, you are panicking again. Your plants look fine. Sometimes the leaves just come out looking funny; it is nothing to worry about. Oh and a humidity dome is only necessary for clones. Seedlings should not be grown under a dome. The best temps to keep them at are between 65-75 degrees and humidity 40-60 percent. Going a bit out of these ranges will only cause slowing growth. Above 60 percent humidity could invite mold. Keep the dome off for seedlings, on for clones. __________________ "I build cars for young men that only old men can afford"- Enzo Ferrari (1898-1988) LED Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...ghts-pics.html PGAMG Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...acle-grow.html MG vs. Generic Soil Thread http://forum.grasscity.com/general-i...icle-grow.html

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#30 (permalink) 01-28-2007, 07:11 AM
hangook420 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 92	hmm i think i should get a pH tester.. okay so its not a nutrient deficiency... so i think im gonna get a pH tester... ne idea how much it would cost?? The gro mix says its mixed with dolomite lime which should help the ph lvl.. but maybe i should check it anyways... thanks for the advice on the plants... so when should i start giving them nutes?? alright so im gonna check the pH and i'll update very soon with pics...