first grow, semi stealth grow cab, bag seeds

[JAHbuds]

hello everyone, this is my first grow and i'm very excited. i've been browsing on tons of forums for weeks reading grow logs and gathering as much knowledge as possible. i'm going to try to work with what i have at the moment, i would appreciate any comments or ideas. =)
my setup is:
grow cab
1.5 ft length, 3 ft width, 2.5 ft high
all walls lined with mylar except the top.

for now i have one four inch computer fan as an exaust and a computer fan inside just to blow air around till i can drill an intake hole for it. they are on a 7v ac/dc adapter but i plan on wiring them to a 12v during flowering.

i have a 42w white cfl and a 30w red spectrum cfl at the moment that i'll use for the first week or two then i'll have to go out and possibly buy a 125w one from the hydro shop? i was planning on using only cfls for this grow because i don't think the computer fans will be able to keep it cool in there with an hps.

i'm using foxfarm ocean forest soil, and i'm really not sure what i'm going to do about a nute regimen right now.
i was thinking fish emulsion for the later weeks of veg? i'm aware it smells horrid, so i was thinking about going with the fox farm line of nutes and following the feeding schedule on their site, although that would be very pricey. any reccomendations on nutes?

i was thinking about buying two 125w cfls for the flowering and place all my other ones around and under the plant for higher yield.
since this is my first grow, i thought it would be smart to use a few bagseeds instead of buying premium ones online. we'll see how this goes, from what i hear growing is very addictive.

the grow:
i'm thinking only two plants for this grow,
i've already started germinating five bag seeds, all from the same bag, in moist paper towels zipped in a zip-lock.

after they germinate i plan to put them in beer cups with ocean forest soil and water them as needed until the middle of the second week or maybe the third then move them to pots. i still need to decide on nutes and a feeding schedule.

what would be the soonest possible way to find out which plants are girls?

any comments are welcome!
pictures soon!

one love,
JAHbuds

pics! (hopefully they'll be better quality after x-mas)

[MajoR_TokE]

Thats a neat little set-up you got there stealthy lol. So as the plants grow you will just add more books to keep the lights on top? I would screw them to the side or top and just bend em into position just my 2cent tho

[cupcheck]

gonna be really hard to keep it that small man...

[JAHbuds]

Originally Posted by MajoR_TokE

Thats a neat little set-up you got there stealthy lol. So as the plants grow you will just add more books to keep the lights on top? I would screw them to the side or top and just bend em into position just my 2cent tho

i think the desk lamps take up too much room, i'm thinking about bulding two hanging fixtures with three CFLs each and maybe screw the desk lamps to the side to get light to the sides of the plants.

[JAHbuds]

hello again! sorry for the long wait, i got a new camera for christmas and my pictures will be much better quality from here on out =D.

i narrowed it down to one plant from all of the seedlings (starting with 4), so hopefully it's a female!

i was having some problems in the first week and half with (what i think is) pH issues, but the new leaves don't seem to be having any trouble. does it look like i might have had the lights to close?

i'm going to be buying new lights for flowering and nutrients very soon. =)

updated pictures:

[fatbob166]

Not too shabby man. I like that you leave the crown royal in there in case your plant gets thirsty. Keep us posted......

[JAHbuds]

hello! thanks to everyone who's on board so far! i'm really not sure how much longer i'm going to keep them in veg. i really need to figure what method i'm going to use for keeping it small (scorg, topping or lst... any suggestions???). i'm also really considering keeping this an all floro grow.

update!

they're so much bigger and it's only been a few days!

[DankStarbursts]

looks good, what day are you on?

[chimera]

Plant looks good, now for my 2 cents on how you should proceed.

1. Mylar the top.
2. dump the lamps just use the socket, with the top mylared you have a natural reflector built in for that small of a place.
3. Plan on tripling the number of bulbs, get 1 more of the blue and 3 of the red(flowering), strategically place your lights so that you have light to the sides and underside as well as the top.
4. training - either lst or scrog your only 2 option, topping can be used in conjunction with either of these 2 methods.
5. flowering switch over in the next seven days or as soon as you have your training method in place.

Good luck with your grow, hope you can keep them short enough.

[AugustWest]

very nice man, lookin good! I agree w/ chimera add as much light as you can fit/afford, top and LST and you should have some nice bud.

[Potmaniac]

Dude you relly want one female there.
And than it still will be some work.

If you give it already adviced amount of light one fem will give you nice crop. If you put two there you will end up prunning them to fit in this space.

To find out the sex, you can preflower them. Just swich the lights for 12/12 ( when your all seedlings are size of the plant in pics) and wait. males should showing first, but you should still wait when all show flowers.

It will take about two weeks. During this time your plants will streach a bit and still grow intensively. When you establish sex it is up to you. You will probably need to return them to veg for some more 2 weeks. But it can also happen, that they will reach the size wich will make unnececery returning them to veg.

Couple tips about size managment.

Try using pots not much deeper then one you have, but b4 flowering transplant your female or females to something wide. Basicly fill all the floor space you have.

Do not top the plant, instead train main stem gently, and then run it on peace of sting pinned betwen coupboar walls. You should do so with sidegrowth as well. You can create flat web with plant. It will allow light to every part of the plant, so the buds will have much more goodnes for themselfs.

If you top it you slow it down and it makes it bushier. In the end your bush will clog coupboard, getting light only to it's 'shell'. Result: shorter buds, root bound more liklely and probably panic to find a bigger space for the plant.

If you want more detail feel free to contact me

[Mindless~!~?]

Sorry to go abit off topic,

But one of the books that a lap is clamped to, is that Good News Bad News, its the exact cover of it.

[JAHbuds]

Originally Posted by Mindless~!~?

Sorry to go abit off topic,

But one of the books that a lap is clamped to, is that Good News Bad News, its the exact cover of it.

one is dreamcatcher by steven king and the other is the photographers handbook lol. so, to answer your question, neither books are Good News Bad News (although that is a good book)



i put mylar on the top of the cab last night, as reccomended by chimera (thanks!). i will begin lst either tonight or tomorrow. it's gotten so much bigger since the last update! (pics tonight)

also, thanks for the size management tips Potmaniac =D

[JAHbuds]

update!

[day 18] =D
LST in place.

[sikabuyin]

Looks good man. I'm growing Bag Seed also. Do you think you could post their age, in days, above the pictures. It's more fun that way

Good Growing