Second CFL + LED Bagseed Grow

[KamelRedLight]

Good point. I put it there because the only way I could mount that big lamp in the upper right hand corner was blocking half the plant from the LED. But that's a good point i should put it back up top, even if I can't get all the plant. Maybe if I angle it right...

[KamelRedLight]

Was admiring my buds, and I thought I'd share them with you all. My thumb's about 3 inches long for reference.

[SmknVTEC]

Shit Kamel,

I can't believe I have missed this thread. Do me a favor buddy, next time you start a journal and I have not replied to it after a while, PM me the link. The only reason I found it is because I saw it in the sick plants topic. I don't get over to the grow journals that often because I have been hanging out in the sick plants and general indoor growers area.

Anyway, this damn problem you are having is exactly like the one Stitch and I helped you with on your last batch of girls; the calcium problem. I have a few concerns here that I have noticed so far.

First is your soil. I did a search on it and if I am looking at the right stuff, it says it has quick release ferts and slow release that feeds up to 9 MONTHS. I am baffled by this because I would expect that your seedlings would have gotten burned right away and they did not. I just wonder if you are seeing some kind of effect from the slow release ferts now finally starting to be released. However it does not look like over fert or N deficiency to me because both of those usually (N can sometimes start in the middle) start at the bottom of the plant and move to the tops.

Second, what the hell is up with that crossed out calcium on the back of the fert box? Doesn’t it seem coincidental to you that you had a calcium deficiency (we think) on your last batch and now we find out the calcium has been scratched out? Did you use this soil and fertilizer on the last grow by any chance?

Third, I agree with what Spanishfly said that it could be magnesium deficient however looking at the back of your fertilizer box it says there is 0.5% magnesium AND 0.5% water soluble magnesium. That's 1% of magnesium, which is a very high percentage for a micronutrient although weed does need large amounts of magnesium but not over done. That makes me wonder with all that magnesium how it could then become magnesium deficient. However, a little Epsom salt probably won’t hurt.

Fourth, boy I have really been studying up here for you buddy. I found something in our friend Stitch's guide that I found very interesting. In her guide she says to avoid fertilizers that are high in ammonium nitrate because it can cause Nitrogen toxicity (too much) which in turn CAN LOCK OUT CALCIUM!!! Look at the back of your Tiger Bloom can. One of the biggest elements is the Ammonium Nitrate. It says it at the top by the nitrogen and again at the bottom where it says “derived from”.

Fifth, go easy on both the phosphorus and potassium because guess what, excessive levels of both of those can lock out calcium causing a calcium deficiency. Speaking of phosphorus, you said something interesting the other day in the thread. You said the stems were purple. Purple stems indicate a phosphorus deficiency but again, you are giving it lots of phosphorus so…

Finally, to sum up, here are my recommendations:
1. For your next grow, ditch this soil and get something different
2. Based on the ammonium nitrate and crossed out calcium etc, I would STOP feeding with the Tiger Bloom and don't use it on your next grow.
3. Try foliar spraying with some Epsom salt. If it does not get better within 24-48 hours stop the Epsom spraying.
4. Get rid of the Tiger Bloom (I already said this)
5. Go easy on the rest of the ferts you use. Too much N (ammonium nitrate) P&K can lock out calcium which I think might be happening here.

P.S. How much longer on these bad girls do you think before harvest? If it is two weeks or so, you might want to stop fertilizing all together and start flushing.

[KamelRedLight]

GOD DAMN CALCIUM! That's what I was wondering, if maybe I just had a less severe deficiency than last time, either that or it sorta looked like iron. The symptoms were so varied from leaf to leaf I couldn't tell. I think from now on I'm gonna mix wood ash into all my soil, since i have plenty at my disposal.

With the Tiger Bloom though, the 1.90% is nitrate nitrogen and there's only .10% ammoniacal nitrogen. But yeah that's just not cool, they left the calcium out of the batch that I bought, like they saw me comin and wanted to play a joke. And with all the great things I heard I thought I could trust Fox Farms. It's better than the crap I used last grow though, the wal mart preferted soil and the wal mart 10-52-10 powder that probly locked it out last time. The Fox Farms is supposed to be organic, so maybe that's why they didn't get burnt. Oh no actually, she and her brother (deceased) started off in the wal mart soil, the .10-.08-.06 or something chemically preferted soil, and they still didn't get burnt, but it might have made the male grow real funny. This girl got the Fox Farms at around two months. I'll take a trip up to the hydro store I got it at and ask him about the calcium in the fert. He's got a big selection of ferts, so I'll find something else. Any recommendations?

This girl is another bag seed, so I don't know exact flowering time, but at last check, I'd say another week or two and she'll be done. Trichs are fully formed but clear. I sprayed her with the veg fert Big Bloom which does NOT have its calcium crossed out, so maybe that helped. Slowed it at least. Do you think I should feed her or let it go as she'll be done soon anyway?

Thanks so much for your help again Vtec, I'd be lost on my own.

[youngandstupid]

Goddamn sir, you've pulled off two grows before I could half finish one. Kickass job, and those buds are quite admirable.

[JollyRoger227]

dude it was the calcium? that sucks but hey if ya plan on makin a trip to east hartford let me know cuz I'm still stuck at home my car isn't done yet

[blazeallday]

simply beautiful...

[KamelRedLight]

Thanks guys. Y&S you just got some shit luck with those boys. I was hopin for girls for you too, at least one.

[SmknVTEC]

Yes,
Despite Kamel's woes towards the end of flower, he grows some nice looking (and smoking I am sure) plants. Kamel you could go either way with the ferts, your call. As for ferts, I think these would be good if your guy has them • Good ferts would be anything good for vegetables such as 10-10-10 or 20-20-20. Fertilizers Inside Sun http://www.insidesun.com/index.php?a...category&id=12 and http://www.insidesun.com/index.php?action=category&id=4 According to Stitch:

Chemical Nutrients

Advanced nutrients Grow (2-1-6)
Vita Grow (4-0-0),
BC Grow(1.2-3.2-6.5)
GH Flora Grow (2-1-6)
GH Maxi grow (10-5-14)
GH floraNova grow (7-4-10),
Dyna gro Grow (7-9-5)

Organic Nutrients

Dr. Hornby's Iguana Juice Grow (3-1-3)
Advanced Nutrients Mother Earth Grow (1.5-.75-1.5)
Earthjuice Grow (2-1-1),
Pure Blend Pro (3-1.5-4)
Bone Meal(0-10-0)
Blood Meal(12-0-0)
Fish Emulsion (5-1-1)
Seabird Guano (11-13-3)
Crab Shells(2.5-3.0-.5)
Pure Blend Grow (0.4-.01-.5)
Marine Cuisine (10-7-7)
MaxiCrop Seaweed (1-0-3)
Super Tea (5-5-1)
Mexican Bat Guano (10-2-0)
Sea Island Jamaican Bat Guano (1-10-0)
Kelp Meal (1-0-2)
Seaweed Plus Iron
Neptune's Harvest (2-4-0.5)
Alaska Start-Up(2-1-2)
Bio-Grow (1.8-0.1-6.6)
Age old Grow (12-6-6)
AGE Old Kelp (.30-.25-.15)
Neptune's Harvest (2-4-1)
Maxicrop Seweed(.1-0-1)
METANATURALS Organic grow (3-3-3)
METANATURALS Organic nitrogen (16-0-0)

[KamelRedLight]

Very nice smoking plants . Thanks for kind words vtec! I'd much prefer organic nutrients, I'm gonna see what they got at the hydro store. Here are some nice shots of Baby Girl, the flash makes it look so much better. I didn't shoot it but there's a leaf with purpleish red in between the viens. Whatever she'll be done soon.

[youngandstupid]

Originally Posted by KamelRedLight

Thanks guys. Y&S you just got some shit luck with those boys. I was hopin for girls for you too, at least one.

Thanks, shit happen, life goes on you know the drill. Your ladies are looking lovely as usual. Those bud pix are so hairy, and look mighty sticky.

[KamelRedLight]

Flowering Day 50
Trichome Weather Report: It's going to be sticky, mostly cloudy with a chance of harvest in the next week or so.

[h4rk4t]

whoolly shit i CANT believe i havnt seen this thread yet! those buds look soooo damn nice! the nicest i seen in a while! what gets me is how they are SO crystaly when all your using is CFL+LED! ++++++++++++REp dude i am going to go and re-read the whole 3 pages to understand whatsss going on and how u achieved this hah. Do you think its just the bagseed you got that has made it so resinous?

[h4rk4t]

dang nvm i've repped you already somewhree i guess hah.

[h4rk4t]

do you think its your LED platbar that helps so much? im thinkin of buying one....