Going off the grid. - Page 2

Dan710 · #16 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 03:10 AM

You should check out Emergency by Neil Strauss. It's a pretty good read but not all of it is feasible unless you have a lot of money ($60k for a second passport is a tad much). Still, some of it might help you out or point you in the right direction.

Bluntman00 · #17 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaTransplant

Orrrrr
You could forget the marines and join the rangers..

Considering that is supposed to be one of the hardest trainings there is, i doubt thats an option.

FlaTransplant · #18 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 04:12 AM

How hard a training do you think it is to haul your unprepared ass off into the middle of the wilderness with a gun some shells and a happy thought or two? The rangers do that to you in the 1st week or so but at least they come BACK in a few days and check up on ya...

Just a thought (lol)

HardBeforeLite · #19 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 02:33 AM

who says im un-prepared ive been hunting on hundreds of thousand of acres and have had to camp under a tarp for 3 days with a pack of beef jerky because of a flash flood. my dad started taking me hunting when i was 8 and i started to hunt by myuself when i was 14 and have been since. im up for the challange id just have to have good recorces

Bluntman00 · #20 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlaTransplant

How hard a training do you think it is to haul your unprepared ass off into the middle of the wilderness with a gun some shells and a happy thought or two? The rangers do that to you in the 1st week or so but at least they come BACK in a few days and check up on ya...

Just a thought (lol)

Its alot harder than going off into the wilderness, its more like doing some of the most tiring tasks you can imagine with little to no sleep, for months at a time. Yeah.

iz88 · #21 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 03:14 AM

sounds like thoreau, even civil disobedience...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau

read the part about walden, then there are other resources.

it may be true that you can hunt, but people don't hibernate. What would you do in the winter time when you can't get fruits/veggies.

are you trained in areas such as preserving/storing/protecting your food through the winter? How many rabbits and songbirds will it take to feed you and your girlfriend through the winter? How are you at preparing wild food. how are you at edible plant/insect identification? Do you know your poisonous insects/plants/snakes? How are you at insulating your non-government certified house? How do you plan on staying warm in winter? What do you do when disease spreads through the small game population? Are you prepared to take care of problems associated with pesticide run off (I know you plan on being hundreds of miles from the nearest farmer, but water all runs somewhere, if there are farmers north of your homestead, you will get their runn-off)? Will you have enough time to catch food for 2 people, and upkeep the house?

Of course it's possible, but plausible? hardly

I just heard a story about a college student (from one of the ivy leagues) who managed to break away to alaska. He lived for a while just fine, but then it got cold and rivers became uncrossable. They found him in somebody's summer cabin, like the day after he died of starvation.

XxGanjaXXGOD · #22 (**permalink**) 11-03-2009, 04:10 AM

the house that im getting ready to build my self(log cabin)is going to be pnly 47 square feet.and will be in national forest(legal)and self sustaining

Stoogemeister · #23 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iz88

sounds like thoreau, even civil disobedience...

Henry David Thoreau - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

read the part about walden, then there are other resources.

it may be true that you can hunt, but people don't hibernate. What would you do in the winter time when you can't get fruits/veggies.

are you trained in areas such as preserving/storing/protecting your food through the winter? How many rabbits and songbirds will it take to feed you and your girlfriend through the winter? How are you at preparing wild food. how are you at edible plant/insect identification? Do you know your poisonous insects/plants/snakes? How are you at insulating your non-government certified house? How do you plan on staying warm in winter? What do you do when disease spreads through the small game population? Are you prepared to take care of problems associated with pesticide run off (I know you plan on being hundreds of miles from the nearest farmer, but water all runs somewhere, if there are farmers north of your homestead, you will get their runn-off)? Will you have enough time to catch food for 2 people, and upkeep the house?

Of course it's possible, but plausible? hardly

I just heard a story about a college student (from one of the ivy leagues) who managed to break away to alaska. He lived for a while just fine, but then it got cold and rivers became uncrossable. They found him in somebody's summer cabin, like the day after he died of starvation.

that was chris mccandless (into the wild)

what actually happened was that he left college to pursue a life in the wilderness

he lived just fine like you said, and had a huge bag of rice as backup food

game was scarce in the area he lived, and he found shelter in an old abandoned bus that was dragged out there as a refuge spot for hunters

he mis-identified some wild plant and ended up getting very sick from it. One little mistake ruined it all. The poisonous plant prevented him from being able to digest food, and he basically starved to death.
Also this was in spring and there was glacial melt causing the surrounding rivers to flood into wild rapids, thus he was literally trapped in the wild and too weak to get out and succumbed to death

loopster · #24 (**permalink**) 11-06-2009, 04:51 PM

there is a place in arizaon where its all self sufficent hippies you could try there

sierra_mike · #25 (**permalink**) 11-07-2009, 09:26 PM

hell yeah, there ant nothin wrong with living off grid, learn alot of important survival skills

XxGanjaXXGOD · #26 (**permalink**) 11-08-2009, 09:35 AM

survival isnt hard at all.you dont need the gay ass l military too learn survival skills.

visit this site
Survivalist Forum Survival Gear Reviews and Self Sufficiency Articles ask lots of questions,just not stupid ones.
good luck

guitarist231 · #27 (**permalink**) 11-10-2009, 01:53 AM

If it's living on your own or joining the military, I'd say go off the grid. Living off the land beats getting shot at any day imo.

sierra_mike · #28 (**permalink**) 11-10-2009, 02:01 AM

ha yeah or you could join a milita

Rock4Light · #29 (**permalink**) 11-10-2009, 05:29 AM

OP, read Walden by Thoreau.

wonderyears · #30 (**permalink**) 11-11-2009, 01:17 AM

I've always wanted to live like this. I've drawn up lots of plans, read dozens of books about it, saved up enough money to build a house and everything. I just don't have any friends my age that are wanting to live this way too.

But I say go for it, you'll have a blast.

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#16 (permalink) 11-02-2009, 03:10 AM
Dan710 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 69	Re: Going off the grid. You should check out Emergency by Neil Strauss. It's a pretty good read but not all of it is feasible unless you have a lot of money ($60k for a second passport is a tad much). Still, some of it might help you out or point you in the right direction.

#18 (permalink) 11-02-2009, 04:12 AM
FlaTransplant Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 53	Re: Going off the grid. How hard a training do you think it is to haul your unprepared ass off into the middle of the wilderness with a gun some shells and a happy thought or two? The rangers do that to you in the 1st week or so but at least they come BACK in a few days and check up on ya... Just a thought (lol)

#19 (permalink) 11-03-2009, 02:33 AM
HardBeforeLite Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 8	Re: Going off the grid. who says im un-prepared ive been hunting on hundreds of thousand of acres and have had to camp under a tarp for 3 days with a pack of beef jerky because of a flash flood. my dad started taking me hunting when i was 8 and i started to hunt by myuself when i was 14 and have been since. im up for the challange id just have to have good recorces

#21 (permalink) 11-03-2009, 03:14 AM
iz88 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 201	Re: Going off the grid. sounds like thoreau, even civil disobedience... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau read the part about walden, then there are other resources. it may be true that you can hunt, but people don't hibernate. What would you do in the winter time when you can't get fruits/veggies. are you trained in areas such as preserving/storing/protecting your food through the winter? How many rabbits and songbirds will it take to feed you and your girlfriend through the winter? How are you at preparing wild food. how are you at edible plant/insect identification? Do you know your poisonous insects/plants/snakes? How are you at insulating your non-government certified house? How do you plan on staying warm in winter? What do you do when disease spreads through the small game population? Are you prepared to take care of problems associated with pesticide run off (I know you plan on being hundreds of miles from the nearest farmer, but water all runs somewhere, if there are farmers north of your homestead, you will get their runn-off)? Will you have enough time to catch food for 2 people, and upkeep the house? Of course it's possible, but plausible? hardly I just heard a story about a college student (from one of the ivy leagues) who managed to break away to alaska. He lived for a while just fine, but then it got cold and rivers became uncrossable. They found him in somebody's summer cabin, like the day after he died of starvation. __________________ I am KING of the Lighters! \ "it is better to die on my feet, than to live on my knees." - some famous mexican dude (I translated it from spanish) Would it be considered canabalism to smoke out of a human skull?

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#26 (permalink) 11-08-2009, 09:35 AM
XxGanjaXXGOD at party rock Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 268	Re: Going off the grid. survival isnt hard at all.you dont need the gay ass l military too learn survival skills. visit this site Survivalist Forum Survival Gear Reviews and Self Sufficiency Articles ask lots of questions,just not stupid ones. good luck __________________

#27 (permalink) 11-10-2009, 01:53 AM
guitarist231 Rockin' in The Brain Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 598	Re: Going off the grid. If it's living on your own or joining the military, I'd say go off the grid. Living off the land beats getting shot at any day imo. __________________ "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity." -Deuteronomy 25:11-12

#28 (permalink) 11-10-2009, 02:01 AM
sierra_mike Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 22	Re: Going off the grid. ha yeah or you could join a milita

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#29 (permalink) 11-10-2009, 05:29 AM
Rock4Light Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Up The Country... Posts: 1,210	Re: Going off the grid. OP, read Walden by Thoreau.

#30 (permalink) 11-11-2009, 01:17 AM
wonderyears Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 38	Re: Going off the grid. I've always wanted to live like this. I've drawn up lots of plans, read dozens of books about it, saved up enough money to build a house and everything. I just don't have any friends my age that are wanting to live this way too. But I say go for it, you'll have a blast.