Plant/herb extractions 105-Hawaiian Baby Woodrose extraction(s) :D

[XZit]

So here it is my friends.
Its been long delayed.
But its finally here...the HB woodrose extraction(s)!!!



I'm going to start out with the generel information about the seed e.t.c. and what it does e.t.c. before I go onto the various extractions.
There are 2 synthesis like extractions--which are slightly more diffucult then the other extractions. I will only post how to do one of these. As the other one is sort of redicoulus in terms of asking for almost impossible to obtain chemicals, and supplies.
I will however post a link to it off of www.erowid.com

I will also touch base on simple ways of injestion (preperations) if you don't want to go through an extraction procedure.




Here we go!!
PS: From now on Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds will be refered to as : HBW




What is HBW?
Hawaiian Baby Woodrose is a perennial climbing vine with large heart-shaped leaves and white trumpet-shaped flowers. Its large furry seeds grow in seed pods and contain the psychedelic LSA.
There are severel strains of HBW. Specifically: Ghana, Indian, Indian Ayurvedic, and of course the actual hawaiian strain.
Ironically all the strains no matter where they are from are called Hawaiian Baby woodrose followed by its strain; i.e. Hawaiian baby woodrose *ghana* strain; or Hawaiian baby woodrose *Indian Ayurvedic strain* and so on and so on e.t.c.

Other common names of HBW are:
Elephant Creeper; Wooly Morning Glory.


HBW is like morning glory seeds. Except that its safer (as you take less seeds, and thus possible side effects are diminished), and its stronger as well.


A bit about the compound in HBW seeds that gives you that "high".
The most predominint chemical in HBW seeds is LSA.
LSA is closly related to LSD. In fact when you injest lsa---after about 30min-1hr its convereted into LSA.



LSAs high is differen't then lsd. In fact visuals/hallucinations from lsa isn't very common i.e. uncommon/rare in individuals.
Lsas high can be compared to a "Wave". Where you feel the common, it hits a slight peak, dies back down (to almost the level of you feeling sober), and repeats like this for severel hours.

LsD is more of a peak drug. You take it--you get the common, it hits a peak, you then have a comedown and its over.
LSAs high is much longer, and much more intense on your BODY then LSD is.



For me for example--what I experiance on lsa (i.e. HBW seeds). Is the wave like I told yall. The common to the "peaks" feels almost like xtc, where my arms/head/legs are tingling.
I feel very spaced out, but not disoriented. Deep thoughts can easily be reached--material is absorbed differently, and more intensly.
If enough HBW seeds are consumed--one could easily have a great spirtual awakinging---even without hallucinations.


For some people visuals do happen--maybe more closed eyed ones, but visuals can happen--but they are differen't then lsd, the lsa induced visuals are usually consistant of patterns/shapes/and colors.






OK *breath* NOW onto the various preperations (not onto the extractions yet !)
YAY!



Preperation #1:

1.) Stick the seeds (whatever amount you wanna take-I find that 3+ is a good dose) into a teacup with about a cup of water

2.) Microwave them for 45 seconds.

3.) Fish the seeds out

4.) Chew them up thoroughly, and wash them down with the water

The microwave makes the seeds easier to chew, and digest.
Take a bit of pepto bismol, or somthing to counteract the possible nausea that may come from the first common and "peak".



Preperation #2:

1.) Take seeds--obtain a razor blade and scrape off any fuzzy coating on the seeds

2.) Put seeds in liquid of your choice, drink

(ya ya--simple...lol!)



Preperation #3:
(tea)

1.) Take seeds--crush them up

2.) Soak the seeds in about 1/2 cup of hot water for about 1hr

3.) Drink





Ok now onto the extracts!



Extract #1:

1.) Obtain seeds of quantity you want. Remove fuzzy coating

2.) Crush seeds into a fine powder

3.) Pour seeds into a shot glass, or container of about equal size

4.) Fill shot glass with acetone. Cover the glass with plastic cling wrap.

5.) Let it sit for about a week; make sure to shake it once--daily

6.) Remove the cling wrap, and let ALL the acetone evaporate

7.) Fill each glass with 151 proof+ alcohol. Cover with plastic cling wrap, and let it sit for about a week agian.

8.) Strained out seed powder with a very fine mesh coffee strainer

9.) Pour liquid into two seperate bottles, store in a cool dark drawer

10.) Mix the seeds with a liquid of your choice--or just swallow them by themselfs. Have fun! lol



Extraction/Preperation #2:

1.) Take desired # of seeds. Crush them up with hammer e.t.c.

2.) Put the powder in a shot glass, add a teaspoon of cold water -- stir

3.) Five minutes later, add a squeeze of lime juice, some sugar, stir---shovel the whole mess into your mouth.

You can now swish it around in your mouth (for about 20-30min)--and then spit it out.
Or just swallow the whole thing.

And of course--when done with more seeds---the more high will you get. This method/extration/preeration will hit you hard and fast---so I suggest to work up to this level.






Time for the big extraction. Be prepared as this is slightly more diffucult to do. Actually VERY VERY more diffucult to do. Some of you may not understand this extraction at all. I seriously doubt anyone will do this, but I'll post it up here anyhow.

Note that this extraction will get you almost pure lsa--so be careful.
Like all the other extractions/preperations--I highly suggest to work your way up by taking some ground up seeds i.e. preperation #1, or #2 first.





Big extraction:

First of all a bit of info:
There are two kinds of solvents, polar and nonpolar. Generally, the good stuff in HBW seeds is polar soluable, and the bad stuff is nonpolar soluable.

So the idea is to first make a nonpolar solution, which of course means that you take a nonpolar solvent and soak the ground up seeds in it. The result is a solution of garbage from the seeds and the nonpolar solvent. Petroleum is a nonpolar solvent, so it will function in this capacity.



1.) Soak the ground up seeds in petroleum ether for a few days

2.) Filter the resulting cloudy solution through some coffee filters

3.) Throw away the solution

4.) Keep the seed mush

The seed mush consists of nondisolved LSA's, fiber, and the remaining solution that didn't drip through the filter. This part can be iterated to get more and more garbage out of the mush. The final time, let the seed mush dry thoroughly so that the petroleum evaporates so that you don't have any poison in there.


After the seed mush dries, the nest stage is to make a polar solution, which separates the alkaloids (the LSA) from the fiber of the seeds. This is done with alcohol. The key is to have a polar solution which easily evaporates, one which will not destroy the LSA's, and one which is not poisonous; i.e. Ethanol alcohol (drinking). Methanol will also work, but methanol can causes blindness, so if you use methanol, make damn sure it's all evaporated before consuming the product.


5.) Make an alcohol solution of the seeds. i.e. put the seeds into the alcohol (as high proof as possible, I recomend everclear 190 proof).

6.) Filter the solution through filter paper, like before, except this time keep the liquid in a jar.

7.) Repeat step #6; 3 or 4 times, always keeping the liquid.

8.) When you've exhausted the seeds, throw them away (the seed mush)

9.) Put the liquid in a shallow flat tray, pan or large bowl, and let it evaporate in a dark dry place for a day or two, or until there is no liquid.

10.) The pan should have a yellowish scum residue. That's the LSA gunk

11.) Scrape that up with a razor blade or credit card or whatever works. It'll be sticky and gummy, and once it's all scraped up it will look dark brown.


Once you have this stuff as pure as you want it, you can ingest it in your favorite form. You can either swallow it as a lump, put it into a gelatin capsule, drink the ethanol solution, or dissolve it in some cool-aid. I recommend either capsules or swallow the lump if you can handle the taste.

I guess you could smoke it to--but I don't know if the flame/heat would kill off the lsa or not.




Other notes:
Petroleum ether is in Naptha (lighter fluid), which is available in hardware stores.
You can also buy ethyl ether
Make sure that nomater what you buy that it contains no benzene.

Well in reality benzene is in almost every cleaning/solvent out there--i.e. naptha e.t.c., but its not enough to cause problems.




So in summary/in a nutshell:

You mix the HWBR powder in a nonpolar solvent, keep the resultant gunk(I) and throw away the solution. Then dissolve the gunk(I) into a polar solvent, throw away the new gunk(II) and evaporate the solution. The final gunk (III) that comes out of the solution has LSA in it.
>
> gunk(I) = gunk(II) + gunk(III)
> gunk(III) is the good stuff
> gunk(II) is not
> gunk(I+III) are therefore kept
>
nonpolar solvent = petroleum ether (or zippo lighter fluid--i.e. Naptha)
polar solvent = alcohol (methanol is better, but is a smidgin poisinous
so you've got to be damn sure its all evaporated, I actually suggest to just use ethonol--becuase its always a safe bet-and will do the job great).





BTW: heres the link for the other big extraction, its sorta crazy though--hell if you wanna try it, good luck! lol!
http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning...raction1.shtml


There you go guys.
I hope someone trys out the Big extraction, it would be nice to hear the results.
Remember to be safe, evaporate off ALL the solvents, (non-polar and polar).
Be safe, please be safe--lsa is a powerful drug, like I said before--work your way up saftly, and controlled to the extractions.
At first I recomend to just take 3-5 seeds or so, to at least get a feeling of what your in for.





peace




ps: Please PM (private message) me for a website that sells excellent quality HBW seeds; (and all the differen't strains I listed to )
--pz--

[plumface_2002]

w00t!

[JLang]

Awesome man! I don't have time to read this but I was just going to say thanks for making another! I thought you had been discouraged and weren't going to do more.

[JLang]

In extract #1, which part are you consuming, the liquid, or the powder?

I'm probably going to do the big extraction. I understand why a lot of people wouldn't, because the steps can appear to be difficult. But after doing the wormwood extraction, I can assure all of you that extractions are relatively easy, in fact this one is just as easy as any of the others, the only thing that makes it more difficult is that there's just a longer process. But there's really no danger in any of the steps.

I'll do this one when I get adequate money to buy some seeds, my question though, XZit, is how many seeds should I use in the big extraction, or does it matter?

As far as my experience using Methanol alcohol, if it's burned off on a stove (although I guess it's not in this extraction) it's extremely easy to tell when it's completely gone from the mix, you can tell because there will be a sudden change in the pot, there will be liquid and then all of the sudden there will be absolutely none.

Since this extraction allows for the natural evaporation of the alcohol, I would probably highly recommend the ethanol alcohol, despite it being more expensive. The only problem is if you're not 21 you'll have to have someone buy it for you.

[XZit]

^^^^ exactlly.
ya--ethonol alcohol is nice becuase you always know that you'll end up with a nice clean product, and even if some ethonol alcohol is left--you know its safe becuase after all--its drinking alcohol.


Mmm...ya know the amt of seeds for the big extraction is somewhat diffucult.
I don't know what the yeild ratios are of seeds to final extracted result.


But rememeber that the more seeds you start with--the more potent the extraction will be at the end. So its really your call.
But I'd say at least 5-8 seeds at LEAST for the big extraction.
Anything smaller--and the extract would just be lost in the filtering process...






Oh--and for extract #1 you'll be consuming the liquid. As the seeds have had the lsa extracted out of them already--so really no need to keep them, you can discard them if you want.
Or just eat them. I'd actually eat them--just for the heck of it, incase theres a *tiny* little bit of lsa left in them.

[XZit]

Bumping.
I talked to one of my friends today whos done the big extraction (without the acetone--so basically what he did was grind up the seeds, put in 151 alcohol, and put saren wrap over it in the fridge for about a day and then filtered it out e.t.c. e.t.c.).
But either way he said he did it with 100 seeds, he had about 500 "hits" of lsa.

Thats a LOT of fucking hits of lsa. He said he just loaded it all into a vial. (gell caps will work nice to once you establish your dose)



If the extration is done with acetone first, then alcohol--the combination of a polar and a non-polar solvent on the seeds will give you a higher concentration of lsa at the end.
So its safe to say that 100 seeds will give you about 1,000 hits of lsa if done with acetone.

For example I have 100 seeds.
I'm going to use 50 seeds for the big extraction. Becuase sometimes its just nice to have the actual seeds with you. There portable, noone knows what they are--and its just easier to take i.e.--you just chew em' up and swallow! lol).




peace

[XZit]

bumpin



pz

[XZit]

common now--I know someone out there is trying out at least one of these extractions/preperations!


pz

[Foreman]

dammit, i ordered my seeds the 1st of this month and they still haven't come yet. i ordered them from the same site you did XZit. whats the deal? how long did it take for you to get them?

[XZit]

Originally Posted by Foreman

dammit, i ordered my seeds the 1st of this month and they still haven't come yet. i ordered them from the same site you did XZit. whats the deal? how long did it take for you to get them?

if you read on their stite they say it can take up to 30 business days somtimes.
It took about 10 business days or so for my product to get to me.


pz

[XZit]

bumping.

Its been a while---has anyone tried any of the extractions and/or preperations out yet?


pz

[fAKdded]

Very well done, If i had access to the seeds, I would try this! But as of right now, I don't.

[XZit]

This is probally one of the last bumps.
Then I'm going to think about ideas for the next class (which will be in the "10s" series. i.e. 110, 111, 112 e.t.c.)



pz

[RuffRat]

i just orderd 10 seeds, for a begginer how mucxh should i take, you said 3, one site said 5, another said 10.


Im planning to do this method

'Extraction/Preperation #2:

1.) Take desired # of seeds. Crush them up with hammer e.t.c.

2.) Put the powder in a shot glass, add a teaspoon of cold water -- stir

3.) Five minutes later, add a squeeze of lime juice, some sugar, stir---shovel the whole mess into your mouth.

You can now swish it around in your mouth (for about 20-30min)--and then spit it out.
Or just swallow the whole thing.'

is that all i need to do? is that the preperation and extraction in one?

[XZit]

Originally Posted by RuffRat

i just orderd 10 seeds, for a begginer how mucxh should i take, you said 3, one site said 5, another said 10.


Im planning to do this method

'Extraction/Preperation #2:

1.) Take desired # of seeds. Crush them up with hammer e.t.c.

2.) Put the powder in a shot glass, add a teaspoon of cold water -- stir

3.) Five minutes later, add a squeeze of lime juice, some sugar, stir---shovel the whole mess into your mouth.

You can now swish it around in your mouth (for about 20-30min)--and then spit it out.
Or just swallow the whole thing.'

is that all i need to do? is that the preperation and extraction in one?

well its sorta an extraction. Its more of a preperation that potentiates the lsa to come out in a shorter amount of time e.t.c.

If this is your first time--youll be cool with 5. Yet if your a little nervous about it/have no experiance with psycadelics-I'd go with 3.



peace