Sage or Salvia ? Whats the difference?

[wHiTeBuDz]

Hey guys.. I was thinking of trying salvia but then i read somewhere that salvia comes from a plant called sage.. The thing is, my dad has a whole container full of sage in the kitchen (for cooking and spicing of course). But i was wondering, does sage contain salvia?? Because why buy some when i have some right here in my kitchen? I guess it would since salvia comes from sage... Except that wouldn't make sense because if we use that to spice our food, by eating too much we would get a buzz...???

Could somebody please tell me if this is right or wrong...
Thanx guys

[Frank White]

try it....

i had sage in a joint once...

[Unholy]

Nah .. eating it would not work because it needs a REALLLLY high heat flame to release the trippy parts of it .. and also i dont think that its a very high concentration in food-prepared sage .. so be ready for smokin a bowl or two

But yea give it a try and tell us the effects.

[wHiTeBuDz]

it worked??? i mean how much sage would you have to put???

And i also have a question: I read that with salvia, about 5 minutes after inhaling, you start to feel it and you go in "your own world"... I know salvia is one of the most powerful hallucinogenic substance known to man, but i am wondering, if, under the effects of salvia you can still be conscious and alert enough to do anything you would in your normal daily life?

comments are apreciated
thanx

[Unholy]

Lol ... im not sure about being able to do things that you normaly can, i hear that people cant even hold a drink or a fag .. i heard that some people cant even move on salvia !

It depends on the power of the trip i suppose?

[wHiTeBuDz]

ok thanx guys... and the effects last from 45min-1hour??

Anyways i took some pics here of the sage maybe you guys could tell me if it looks right...
My camera is broken so i had to take some pics with my webcam and unfortunately the pics are very small...

Does this look right to you guys??? And it smells like tea.. Is that normal too?

[Pheasantplucker]

sorry to burst your bubble guys but the only salvia your gonna have success with is salvia divornum,thing is theres hundreds of different salvias of which garden sage is only a few of them.
only the divornum is gonna have the effects your after and then you want some sort of extract,ive had the normal leaf and it aint worth it but 20x extract gets you tripping by all accounts.
have fun trying tho

[smokey_the_bear]

no

[mike59271]

ya wont work sorry

[Opivy]

Have a sitter. I tried salvia alone my first time and it was a big mistake. I wasnt evan able to comprehend what was going on during my short trip. I definately wasnt able to do ordinary things, it only lasted 2 minutes or so tho.

[XZit]

Sage is Sage.
And Salvia is Salvia.
Its call Salvia Divininorum (the diviners mint) its a actual plant.

If sage has any effect on you its probally just a placebo.
And if its in any pot its either to make the bag look thicker/greener/smell better, or make joints with pot in them taste better/less harsh.

Heres some tips on good salvia trips/smoking techniques:

Salvia is very responsive to your mindset at the time.
It will recall past negative experiances e.t.c.
If you have problems with depressions/feeling empty don't smoke salvia until you have a day that goes really well and you are happy.


Heres the simple steps to a good salvia high:

1.) Do it with a SOBER sitter/friend

2.) Flame torch helps--esspecially out of a glass piece such as a bong or whatnot

3.) PORTION SIZE PORTION SIZE PORTION SIZE--I can't emphzize that enough, portion size is what its all about, esspecially if dealing with extracts.
Go to www.iamshaman.com for good extracts

4.) Have a SITTER :P

5.) Go into smoking it with a positive mind set, knowing that you will have a fun and good trip

6.) ENVIROMENT!!!!! This is VERY important. Heres the ideal envirmoment for a good salvia trip:
Dark room (with sitter....) low volume chill relaxing music I.E. psytrance or somthing like that

7.) Step to smoking salvia properally. Load a small little boal (remember step #3--portion size) into a nice glass piece or whatnot, use a flame toarch and suck all of the salvia into your lungs while keeping the flame on the salvia until its all gone. Once its all gone and into you hold it in for hella long-as long as you can. Slowly let it out, and lay down right away (if you can...lol--salvia hits pretty hard and fast) and then close your eyes and relax.



Closing thoughts/statments:
Remember that salvia is a spirtual "drug"/plant. Go into smoking it for a spirtual enlighting experiance--not to just get fucked up for 10 min.
If you treat salvia like somthing casual like pot or whatnot youll have a bad trip.
Remember to have a sober friend/sitter watch you at all times.
People have reportatlly run out of the house naked while on salvia--and seen some pretty bad and crazy fucked up stuff.

Also final note:
Remember everyones brain chemistry is differen't. So what one person experiances will be totally different for you.
Yet salvia does have a few familiar traits to its drug effects.


A few of these effects include:
Lightheadeness

Not knowing whats going on/thinking everythings real/no memory after you hit the salvia (thats why a sitters there--to remind you that you smoked some salvia--becuase you will probally forget that you did...lol)

Hallucinations--usually of a 2d disconected type, 3d hallucinations are somewhat rare--but youll also see discontectivness with everyday objects around you.


When I last smoked it I was sitting on a couch--looking at my friends talking, I was high as fuck, and I saw the couch they where sitting on moving away from me--far away from me, and then coming back agian to where it was, and doing this agian and agian and agian.


Another thing salvia does is the high is a very short and sudden and huge burst--like being propelled out of a rocket, hella fast, for 5-10min.
Its very quick, and very intense.



Hope all of this helps.
Also do reading on www.erowid.com for more information, and peoples experiances.
Do your research is very important when it comes to any drug.


have fun!

--Will