i need to move out

[Purged1234]

Soon.

Right now i've got 10$ in my pocket and a job interview tommorow for part-time 9.50$ an hour night stocking at a publix.

I can't smoke because of my parents. They are wholly against it, not the plant itself but because it is illegal. I guess, either way, thats the guise they use.

I havent smoked regularly in several months.. July 4th i smoked, got tested a week later by surprise by my dad and said next time i'd be kicked out and disowned.

So i stopped from like july 4th til october 3rd. within that time frame i didn't get a single drug test so i thought (stupid i know) that i could sneak in a toke.

went to a hotel on october 3rd with friends and got blazed as hell on some legit sour d out of a 3 footer. given my tolerance break you can imagine how high i got =) haha.

I took a detox drink and a urine test after and passed, and bought another detox drink just to be ready for future drug test. I left the drink at a friends house incase i thought i would be drug tested.

Nov 2 (a month later) my dad calls me and says "hey come home i need you to help me with a project" which was a fucking lie my sisters found out about me smoking and ratted me out to my father. yeah some sisters right?

anyways i walk into the door and he hands me a cup and says go. i'm freaking, pissed off and hurt that my family would rat me out and use deception like that.

anyways i come up positive and i was given an ultimatum

1) move out that day. car taken away (its in their name, despite it being a "graduation present"...fuckers.) , no college help, i can forget about them getting me lasik, and basically, literally, disowned.

2) submit to lockdown. I can't see any of my "dope smoking friends" , i can't go anywhere, they took my TV AWAY (Wtf? haha am i 12?) , they also violated my privacy and searched my computer and saw grass-city and MJ related bookmarks. I have to go to Narcotis Anonymous meetings every sunday, and "family counseling sessions" every wednesday. I am being drug tested EVERY SATURDAY. and am financially cut-off because they think all i do is buy dope so i'm forced to get a job.Which isn't a bad thing i do want a job. mainly to move out and be independent of such a corrupt family. They also want to me start paying rent when i get a job. pfft.


I'm 19 years old, it's about time to move out anyway. Theres no way i can live like this for long but i have to bare it for now. I'm basically on fucking probation. There is also no way i will pay them rent to live like this.


Anyways, i need

1) to get my own car, in my own name, so that they can't threaten me in that regard anymore. I have no idea about buying a car or even how much i can expect to pay for a down payment or monthly / insurance. Any recommendations on what car would be the best route to go?

2) to find a place i can live alone or with roomates. i'm probably going to HAVE to get roomates because i really don't think i can afford to live alone, pay for my own car/insurance, and pay for college in a year. If i move out, the only way i can get financial assistance from my parents if i STILL submit to drug tests.


The worst part is they were trying to make me feel bad about being a "Dope smoker" and saying "They raised me better than this" and all this garbage, they are treating me like a meth addict or common criminal. I just smoke weed! wtf =( i don't even drink.

I've never been in trouble with the law, i don't sell, i just smoke weed..


to be independent of my family i require:
My own down payment on car, with ability to pay insurance and monthly payments
To be able to pay rent
to be able to eat cheaply
to be able to buy some weed. Even if its just an ounce a month of some mids, and conserve.
to be able to go to college and pay for books and whatnot..

Can i do this on a 9.50/hr publix job, working full time (40 a week) and saving (mainly for the down payment on car)



BTW if decide to play thier game for a few months and just save money i can probably get them to help or even PAY for my down payment on my car, this would deceptive but fuck it, they deceived me and i don't like the way my family treats me. (like a criminal)






TLDR: Can i live independent of my family with or without roomates on a 9.50 an hr job at a publix? If roomates, how many do you suggest. 1-3 ? all working of course.

[Purged1234]

running basic math before deductions i would make 380 per week (paid every 2 weeks though) at around 1500 a month. at full time (40 hrs a week) within 2-3 months of save, save, save, i could have a down payment on my car. I think if i saved up another month for 'reserve' money before i go forward with the plan, and paid for my car payment/insurance half/half with reserve money and incoming checks...i could definitely afford my own decent car (nothing crazy).

the question is would i be able to live decently by MYSELF ( i have no idea what i can expect to pay..or which route is best to go. Apartment? trailer? what.)

Or if i would need roomates.

and the looming thought of college costs in a year...ugh =(

[Clstcnnbscltvtr]

woah man. thats a post.

try to educate your family. there are many news reports and documentaries on marijuana and how normal/accepted it is in other parts of the world.

uhm. as for what you're asking - you'd need roomates deffinatly. 9.50 an hour is modest pay you'll be making about $280-$300 a week after taxes/theman if you work at least 40hr per week.

so start figuring it out. rent, bills(gas,water,elec,phone,cable,internet), food, car, insurance. thats about all you need to live.

don't get any kind of lease or monthly payments going that aren't related to the above list. you'll start falling behind and won't even know it unless you're a tedious record keeper.

[Purged1234]

Originally Posted by Clstcnnbscltvtr

woah man. thats a post.

try to educate your family. there are many news reports and documentaries on marijuana and how normal/accepted it is in other parts of the world.

uhm. as for what you're asking - you'd need roomates deffinatly. 9.50 an hour is modest pay you'll be making about $280-$300 a week after taxes/theman if you work at least 40hr per week.

so start figuring it out. rent, bills(gas,water,elec,phone,cable,internet), food, car, insurance. thats about all you need to live.

don't get any kind of lease or monthly payments going that aren't related to the above list. you'll start falling behind and won't even know it unless you're a tedious record keeper.

"so start figuring it out. rent, bills(gas,water,elec,phone,cable,internet), food, car, insurance"

That's a good list. Can you give me any ideas of what i can expect to pay for Gas/Water/Elec , i know my phone and internet costs. or a way of figuring it out for myself.


I would also be paying 40 a month for my gym, and that would be something i couldn't give up, as i love my gym. but other than that, i can't think of any other outstanding payments.

[Purged1234]

Oh and trust me i tried the educating my family route. It is why i'm in this mess, I tried to get the OKAY from them to smoke, by educating them [ which let them know i smoke]. Thus began the "OMG you dope fiend rawr!!" stance and the drug tests. Keeping them in the dark would mean i would be able to smoke in peace. I went for a long-shot to inform them and be honest with them, and it 100% backfired.

I tried showing them the union. They dismissed IT as PROPAGANDA, and walked out within the first 20 minutes of it....haha. Shows you what i'm dealing with. I tried showing them medical studies how it would even HELP me, and them (Mom has arthritis, sister has asthma, and i'm ADD.) and they dismissed it as "Anyone can put anything on the internet!" (They are very old fashioned...they get their 'facts' from DR.PHIL, Oprah and such shows, and fox news. My family is a product of mainstream opinion.)

My dad is an ex cop, drug division. Ex bounty hunters. In his youth he smoked pot and did acid, but he says it was "Dark times...and i've grown from it." he is stuck in his methods, and will never change. he is AGAINST weed in its very form, and uses the guise of its illegal status as his basis for not allowing me to smoke. He says "Hey son, if it were legal, i'd be growing it in my front yard, but since it isn't, i'm not going to allow you to wreck your life smoking it and get caught"

Interesting sentiment, but i know him, its a fucking guise as i said. He uses an irrefutable argument to back up his own fucked up stance. Theres no budge, the only option is to move out. Also it doesn't help he is 6'3 and 310 lbs (yes, he's fat, but extremely strong, he's into power lifting...was in the army, a cop, a bounty hunter, now a mechanic that works out every day. He walks around my house with a 44 magnum and a cowboy hat. He is not, NOT to be fucked with physically. If you try to argue him on any point, he gets the "I'm right your wrong you want to fucking fight about it? " argument going. The guy is just...bleh.)

[Tupperware]

Work it out with your family.

Lie if you have to, say you'll stop smoking weed if they refuse to change their minds.

Trust me, getting kicked out of your family's house because of recreational drug use isn't worth it. You'll save yourself a lot of trouble and heartache if you just work things out.

You need your family's support for a lot of things in life, you don't want to ruin that connection at the ripe old age of 19. When you go to college you can smoke all the weed you want.

Stick it out. Seriously.

[blazedandcrazed]

check craigslist.com

also you say you dont sell, but i would reccomend starting. without your parents around you can make bank if you have a good hook up

[Purged1234]

Originally Posted by Tupperware

Work it out with your family.

Lie if you have to, say you'll stop smoking weed if they refuse to change their minds.

Trust me, getting kicked out of your family's house because of recreational drug use isn't worth it. You'll save yourself a lot of trouble and heartache if you just work things out.

You need your family's support for a lot of things in life, you don't want to ruin that connection at the ripe old age of 19. When you go to college you can smoke all the weed you want.

Stick it out. Seriously.

When i go to college i won't be living on campus...My grades in highschool were not spectacular, and my GPA suffered. I am getting zero help that route. Yeah i messed up in that regard, but i can't go back and change it. Community college for me...

If i'm still living at home during college, i will be subject to exactly what i am subject to now. I need to be free of this.

[eric111e]

I would say comply with your parents demands until you can support yourself. I know it seems like bullshit now, but once you move out and learn about what life really about you will wish you made better decision when you were young. Get a job and live with your parents until you have some money in the bank.
Shit dont get any easier when you live on your own, and all the responsibilitys that you most likely cant handle on your own will really break you down. If you dont know how much a car is gonna cost you then you cant afford it, and if you cant afford a car you cant afford a apartmant and if you cant afford either your screwed.

[Purged1234]

Originally Posted by blazedandcrazed

check craigslist.com

also you say you dont sell, but i would reccomend starting. without your parents around you can make bank if you have a good hook up

if i moved out i would probably start selling small-time to people i've known for a while. I'd probably never go big or push weight or whatever, but enough to help out. Thats a thought for the future right now.

I'd probably just do the "buy ounce, sell as eigth or by gram for mark-up" route of selling. Very small time. This would probably just be for my own weed fund, or for extra expenses.

[Clstcnnbscltvtr]

Originally Posted by Purged1234

"so start figuring it out. rent, bills(gas,water,elec,phone,cable,internet), food, car, insurance"

That's a good list. Can you give me any ideas of what i can expect to pay for Gas/Water/Elec , i know my phone and internet costs. or a way of figuring it out for myself.

The apt I used to share with 2 roomates was all elec so I'm not sure on gas. Our elec bill varied alot from 100 up to 200 or 220ish. The highest costs being summer when the AC is on all the time.

Water is cheap. 3 people showering, washing clothes and dishes all the time. 30-40/month.

When I said gas earlier I ment fuel for the car. haha I forgot I never had to pay a gas bill.

[Purged1234]

Originally Posted by eric111e

I would say comply with your parents demands until you can support yourself. I know it seems like bullshit now, but once you move out and learn about what life really about you will wish you made better decision when you were young. Get a job and live with your parents until you have some money in the bank.
Shit dont get any easier when you live on your own, and all the responsibilitys that you most likely cant handle on your own will really break you down. If you dont know how much a car is gonna cost you then you cant afford it, and if you cant afford a car you cant afford a apartmant and if you cant afford either your screwed.

I just need some direction on the car issue. What websites do i go to to find out what i can expect to pay.

I more than likely could not afford something brand-new. Right? See, i don't even know if i could.

I don't know what i can expect to pay for my insurance. I do understand it "will be higher" because of my age and gender demographic (19, male.)

I know i should go with something japanese, since they are made for people in my position. Easy on gas and all. So Honda/nissan it is?

[stoner_lukas]

You will not make it with no money in the bank and a job at Publix. You just won't. Moving out is tough, and you should have had a bit of foresight after you were already told the next time you got caught that would be it.

Get your job at Publix, and deal with your parents for a few months, and save EVERYTHING. It won't kill you to attend NA (it might actually be a good learning experience and a good experience in empathy) or family counseling, and it also won't kill you to stop smoking for a bit.

Not trying to be an ass. I moved out when I was 17 with $3500 in the bank and even with a job it was incredibly difficult until I learned exactly how to manage money. I ate beans, tuna, and rice for a long ass time, and struggled buying all of my textbooks and whatnot. Granted, my parents didn't cut me off, but it was something I felt like I needed to do alone.

Tough it out, save up, then move. That way if a time ever does come in the future when you really need to lean on your parents again they'll be more apt to help you.

[Clstcnnbscltvtr]

Originally Posted by Purged1234

I'd probably just do the "buy ounce, sell as eigth or by gram for mark-up" route of selling. Very small time. This would probably just be for my own weed fund, or for extra expenses.

friend does this. he buys an oz and smokes from it as he sells it - reups every week with his profits and stays blazed. not a bad way to handle having smoke.

[Clstcnnbscltvtr]

Originally Posted by stoner_lukas

Tough it out, save up, then move. That way if a time ever does come in the future when you really need to lean on your parents again they'll be more apt to help you.

Saved me from typing a post again. This. Thisthisthis.