The swine flu - and you

Discussion in 'General' started by Bluntman00, May 5, 2009.

  1. We have all heard about the swine flu, we have all seen the panic on the news, people running around in masks and being quarantined...you may or may not have heard of the hotel in Asia where the one guy had symptoms, and they took him and his 2 friends and isolated them ect ect. You probably also know that the swine flu is currently at level 5/6, with no telling whether they will bump it up to the 6th (pandemic level) or not.

    As far as i see things, the only pandemic spreading across the world currently is stupidity, and let me tell you this shit is running rampant. Alright, how many people have died in the US from the swine flu currently? I think 1 person? And they had crossed the border from mexico. From what ive read, somewhere from 5-10 people are infected in new york (and not even hospitalized let me add). and 16 people have died in mexico. Now, lets do some comparisons here...

    Swine Flu is clocking in at an alarming 17 deaths

    The common flu is clocking in at ~19,000 deaths per year in the US alone, yes this number is alarming, but that is a steady number that ive seen in multiple searches. Now your probably asking yourself why would so many people be panicing over a virus that is seemingly far less dangerous than even the common flu, i mean even at the rate of deaths that the swine flu is currently at, it would have to spread like wildfire to even compare to the common flu.

    The reason for this panic is quite obvious really, money. Its always about money, and what a better time for the government to come up with some crazy get rich quick scheme than during a recession! Does anyone recall the swine flu from way back in the 70s? Where they marketed over advertisements about a Flu that was going to sweep across the country and kill millions, there was ad campaigns about getting vaccines and all that crap, yeah, nothing came of it, and thats why you never heard of it. How about the Bird Flu, youv all heard of that no doubt, there was panic of the bird flu coming over to america, ya, that faded too. Now we have the Swine flu, this will be the same.

    Cause mass panic, keep hammering talk of it spreading over every major news outlet available, keep repeating it over and over. Eventually the people buy into it, then you supply them the vaccine, you repeat over and over that if you dont get the vaccine, you arent safe. Wow how generous they are, to supply us with vaccines!!! At a cost...yep, your gonna have to pay for it, because nothing is free, and hey! Whats a better way of making a bunch of money than basically forcing people to buy your product...Hmmm, but it would take some sort of business mastermind with a shit ton of money to pull something like this off...but wait, guess who owns the company that makes the Tamiflu vaccine, Donald Rumsfield! Hoorrrayy!! Tamiflu for EVERYONE!

    And wait, its not over yet, guess what guys, if the Swine Flu reaches the 6th level (pandemic), there are civil liberties to be lost aswell! HOORAY! Yep, no more public assemblies, i mean hell, you dont want a bunch of people getting together and spreading the swine flu do you? And no more going out after curfew, i mean shit guys, who cares if your kid is broken down 25 miles away from home at night time in the dead of winter, the swine flu might get you! Qauarantines, isolations, this shit is maddening.

    Discuss.
     
  2. Thanks for turning a serious discussion into a zombie outbreak joke, :smoking: oh and i also forgot to mention about the recent law changes in mexico after the swine fluke outbreak.
     
  3. Yeah if you guys didn't notice that link is fake, look at the address bar.
     
  4. ever seen I am Legend?
     
  5. Alright so note taken - next time im looking for an intelligent conversation dont go to a stoner forums. And yes i saw I Am Legend, it sucked.

    Well ill wait it out a few more minutes in hopes of a serious comment then im off to smoke a bowl and hit the sheets.
     
  6. I have been making the same argument for weeks now. Its not a threat. To be safe I carry rubber gloves and a n95 respirator in my backpack at all times. I have an old Gulf War NBC suit and a cheap israeli gas mask that takes NATO filters at my house.

    The whole thing is with the news... Before we didn't have the technology to pinpoint exactly where on the planet infections were. We couldn't have exact numbers on infection rates. We couldn't communicate instantly from any point of the globe to any other point.

    Now we can, and we are panicking over nothing. Its all going to blow over in a month or two and we'll forget about it until the next (insert animal here) flu.

    Anyone remember Triple E (Equine Encephilitis)? Bird Flu? SARS? Same deal.
     
  7. Yep, and with all of those other viruses, there was money to be made...
     
  8. it might not be this one but one of them flu's ganna getchyu lttle girl!
     
  9. I'll contribute something serious, since noone else thinks zombies exist.


    The swine flu may only be killing a few people, but it can't be compared to the regular flu because humans have very little immunity to it whereas the normal flu is so common most people have decent immunity to it.

    But I still think either it'll die out like every other "pandemic" we've had over the past few years or it could turn global and kill off huge amounts of people. Only time will tell.


    But the good news is, I heard in the last major flu outbreak all the people with good immune systems died because their bodies drowned themselves trying to kill the virus, so all us stoners are safe :smoke:
     
  10. This statement right here only makes the swine flu seem even less dangerous, by the fact that the swine flu is working so slowly, and even much more slowly than a virus that the average human already has decent immunities to. And thanks for contributing :D
     
  11. I hate these epidemics!
     
  12. Thing is the H1N1 virus evolves, the common flu virus doesn't & neither does it transfer from animal to human and vice versa.
     
  13. Even so, we have not been given any proof that this is anything more than a random scare besides what we are told, we haven't seen any victims, footage of anything, we are completely going off what we are told and nothing more.
     
  14. i think i had the swine flu man. My cousin just got back from mexico and bam i was sick. But it was better than the regular flu, i fucking threw up three times and that was it i just felt tired for another 36 hours and i was good. its not bad at all
     
  15. Anyone like Hip-Hop? My roommate just wrote this song about the Swine Flu.

    check it out, catch the swine flu

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDsPnXWN8vg]YouTube - Swine Flew - SARCASMO (Swine Flu Hip-Hop)[/ame]
     
  16. I think Ron Paul stated it best, it is a bunch of bureaucratic fear mongering bullshit. devised to create tension between culture races of diversity. Government has too many Ill minded think tanks working 24/7 that don't know shit about real blow back potential, and the mass media sheeple lap it up like free lattes at Starbucks. :bolt:
     
  17. Swine Flu Vaccination Poses Serious Threat to Your Health


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    Euro-med June 17, 2009
    Global Research 13 June: It looks like governments around the world will either force these vaccinations on the public or launch a massive propaganda campaign to trick you into submitting to a jab. If they attempt to force these untested and essentially experimental vaccinations on you, cite the Nuremberg Code, which states: “The voluntary consent of the human subject is essential.” No experimental vaccine should be “conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur, except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as a subjects.

    Associated Press 16 June 2009

    Schools are being put on notice that they might even be turned into shot clinics. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said Tuesday she is urging school superintendents around the country to spend the summer preparing for that possibility. No decision has been made yet on whether and how to vaccinate millions of Americans against the new flu strain that the World Health Organization last week formally dubbed a pandemic, meaning it now is circulating the globe unchecked. But the U.S. is pouring money into development of a vaccine in anticipation of giving at least some people the shots.
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    Research shows that squalene is the experimental anthrax vaccine ingredient that caused devastating autoimmune diseases and deaths for many Gulf War veterans from the US, UK, and Australia, yet it continues in use today and for new vaccines development in labs.


    ATTENTION, Please: The WHO has declared swine flu (N1H1) pandemic. This will probably imply governmental demands for universal mass vaccinations under penalty for not complying. Flu vaccine contains squalene oil as an adjuvant.
    Micropaleontologist Dr. Viera Scheibner conducted research into the adverse effects of adjuvants in vaccines and wrote: Squalene “contributed to the cascade of reactions called “ Gulf War syndrome. GIs developed arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, deadly Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, Raynaud's phenomenon with paroxysms of lack of blood in fingers and toes in fingers and toes, Sjorgren's syndrome with blurred vision, chronic diarrhea, night sweats and low-grade fever.”
    Wikipedia A study linking squalene, as experimental vaccine adjuvant, to individuals with the clinical signs of Gulf War syndrome was published in 2002. A U.S. Federal Judge ruled that there was good cause to believe aqualene to be harmful, and he ordered the Pentagon to stop administering it in October 2004.
    Something peculiar is going on: The Bilderberg meeting wanted to appoint the WHO as the Health Ministry of the UN world government. Now an unprecedented hype is taking place: A non-existing risk of a pandemic flu is being blown up out of all proportions by the WHO – and without any measures being taken! Does this New World Order organisation with a very dubious reputation (its first director was Brock Chisholm – founder of the World Federation for Mental Hygiene, which has scuppered our culture) play a trump card to promote itself in the New World Order? It might be inspired by looking at the successes based on lies like the climate lie, the home made terrorism, and now the also home made financial crisis as for financial gains and promotion of the New World Order. Then the conclusion that you can really achieve great results in terms of world government by mendacious scaremongering seems inevitable!!
    The WHO declares the first pandemic in the 21. century
    Reuters 11 June 2009 The World Health Organization declared the first flu pandemic of the 21st century on Thursday, urging countries to shore up defenses against the virus which is "not stoppable" but has proved mainly mild so far. However the WHO imposed no restrictions on travels or contacts between people.
    "Moving to pandemic phase six level does not imply we will see an increase in the number of deaths or very severe cases.The WHO recommended drugmakers stay on track to complete production of seasonal influenza vaccine for the northern hemisphere's next winter in the next two weeks. Each year, normal flu kills up to 500,000 people and infects millions.
    The Times 11 June 2009: So far it has caused relatively mild, cold-like symptoms with headaches and vomiting, with only 141 deaths among 27,737 cases in 74 countries worldwide since March, In Britain, the number of confirmed cases has risen steadily to 797, with about 40 fresh cases a day.
    Deutsche Welle 11 June, 2009: UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon:Our best response is a firm demonstration of global solidarity."
    This pandemic is a hype
    The EU sponsored Blogactiv on 06/05/09 quotes the Washington Post of 27 April, 2009 (now removed from the web) “The media hype is not in any scale to the real threat, it can be good entertainment like circus in ancient Rome and a tool to put the common people's focus on trivialities."
    The following is from an article by Stephen Lendman 10 June 2009 on the Global Research
    The industry-run US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) notoriously rushes inadequately tested drugs to market, putting their efficacy and safety into question, and turning those who use them into lab rats. It includes everyone if a mass vaccination is ordered on the mere claim of a public emergency – no proof required.
    If mass vaccinations are ordered, millions of Americans may ask: Why have you willfully and maliciously ruined my health?
    Dangerous side effects of flu vaccinations due to vaccine adjuvant squalene
    Imunologist Dr. Pamela Asa first recognized autoimmune diseases showing up in GIs that mirrored those in lab animals injected with oil formulated squalene adjuvants.
    According to Matsumoto, today, “Squalene adjuvants are a key ingredient in a whole new generation of vaccines intended for mass immunization around the globe. Squalene is not just a molecule found in a knee or elbow – it is found throughout the nervous system and the brain.” When injected in the body, the immune system attacks it as an enemy to be eliminated. Eating and digesting squalene isn't a problem. But injecting it “galvanize(s) the immune system into attacking it, which can produce self-destructive cross reactions against the same molecule in the places where it occurs naturally in the body – and where it is critical to the health of the nervous system.” Once self-destruction begins, it doesn't stop as the body keeps making the molecule that the immune system is trained to attack and destroy.
    Matsumoto says “Squalene is a kind of trigger for (a) real biological weapon,” what Soviet researchers called “a biological time bomb!!” He and Dr. Pam Asa conclude that “Oil adjuvants are the most insidious chemical weapon ever devised,” including ones with squalene. So what American scientists conceived as a vaccine booster (or what's now being developed in labs) was another ‘nano-bomb,' instigating chronic, unpredictable and debilitating disease. Using squalene in vaccines is outlandish and criminal.
    Gary Matsumoto is a New York-based award-winning investigative journalist. His 2004 book, “Vaccine A: The Covert Government Experiment That's Killing Our Soldiers and Why GIs are Only the First Victims” took sharp issue with IOM results and the Pentagon's denial of Gulf War syndrome.
    Investigating the shadowy vaccination development world, he discovered US military-employed doctors and scientists conducted secret medical experiments on US citizens in violation of the Nuremberg Code and fundamental medical ethics.
    According to Matsumoto, the Pentagon violated these and other standards, betrayed the troops, and the fundamental duty of military and civilian leaders to protect them. Since at least 1987, biowarfare development trumped the welfare of tens of thousands of GIs used as human guinea pigs for inoculation with experimental unlicensed anthrax vaccines containingsqualene – administered involuntarily without disclosure of its harmful effects to human health.
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    “The unethical experiments detailed in this book are ongoing, with little prospect of being self-limiting because they have been shielded from scrutiny and public accountability by national security concerns.” Other research shows that squalene is the experimental anthrax vaccine ingredient that caused devastating autoimmune diseases and deaths for many Gulf War veterans from the US, UK, and Australia,
    yet it continues in use today and for new vaccines development in labs.
    “There are now data in more than two dozen peer-reviewed scientific papers, from ten different laboratories in the US, Europe, Asia and Australia, documenting that squalene-based adjuvants can induce autoimmune diseases in animals…observed in mice, rats, guinea pigs and rabbits.
    Matsumoto's book includes numerous case studies of GIs afflicted with one or more of the above syndromes, their devastating effects, and the outlandish US government reaction – failing to acknowledge their existence or a connection between them and administered vaccines. Also denying the effects of other toxic Gulf theater exposures (like depleted uranium) as well as withholding meaningful treatments or protocols.
    Money above others´health
    So why does Washington sanction its use? According to Matsumoto: “scientists in the United States are now literally invested in squalene.
    Disturbingly, many of the cutting-edge vaccines currently in development by the NIH and its corporate partners contain squalene in one formulation or another. There is squalene in the prototype recombinant vaccines for HIV, malaria, herpes, influenza (including the swine strain), cytomegalovirus and human papillomavirus.” Some of these “are intended for mass immunization(s) around the globe” and that possibility should terrify everyone enough to refuse any mandate or doctor's prescription to take them."
    Comment
    Now the WHO hype is aimed at provoking mass hysteria over a non existing threat to humanity: Swine flu, a much milder A flu than seasonal flu. Such politically created hoax will probably be associated with mandatory mass vaccinations for no medical reason – but for the enormous profits of the New World order corporations and their “scientists” – as well as for global/political reasons.
    The vaccine carries a risk of very serious complications. Firstly we remember the [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs"]Bayer´s contaminations of products for hemophiliacs[/ame] with AIDS virus and this year Baxter´s contamination of seasonal flu vaccine with deadly bird flu virus.
    However, there is also a very serious problem with the adjuvant of the vaccine: the oil squalene, which is said to have caused the “Gulf Syndrome.”
    Is there a connection to the illuminist and self-conceited [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FqSGXrnudo"]world elite´s depopulation programme[/ame] in their bid for their own luciferian “godhood”?
    Here is an excerpt of what I wrote on Jan 18, 2009: In the 1990's the UN's World Health Organization launched a campaign to vaccinate millions of women in Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines between the ages of 15 and 45, allegedly against Tentanus. The vaccine was not given to men or boys!
    It was revealed by a Catholic organisation that the Tetanus vaccine contained human Chorionic Gonadotrophin or hCG, a natural hormone which when combined with a tetanus toxoid carrier stimulated antibodies rendering a woman incapable of maintaining a pregnancy. None of the women vaccinated were told.It later came out that the Rockefeller Foundation along with the Rockefeller Population Council , the World Bank (home to CGIAR – a Rockefeller agricultural control organzation), and the United States' National Institutes of Health had been involved. In addition, the Government of Norway, the host to the Svalbard Doomsday Seed Vault , donated $41 million to develop the special abortive Tetanus vaccine. Global Research 11 June 2009: ‘A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.' – Ted Turner to Audubon Magazine, 1996.
    Motives for this pandemic hype
    Do I have to reiterate that bilderbergers and CFRs like the former US Defence Secretaries Donald Rumsfeld and George Shultz have shares in the the Tamiflu-producing corporatin, Gilead, being on its board, Rumsfeld even as chairman 1997–2001? They now have a serious problen: The seasonal H1N1 has mutated into a form that resists the Tamiflu , although it is still susceptible to the Relenza (Glaxo-Smith-Kline) alternative. So, for these greedy New World Order charlatans it is vital to hype a swine flu pandemic. For swine flu virus is susceptible to Tamiflu!!! And the sale of it is now soaring !!
    The WHO will now recommend that pharmaceutical companies make swine flu vaccine.The U.S. government has already increased the availability of flu-fighting medicines and authorized $1 billion for developing a new swine flu vaccine. There is big money in this – and big opportunities to promote the WHO to be the health ministry of the New World order UN-government! The Council on Foreign Relations 12 June 2009: "What now kicks in is a greater sense of urgency for the pharmaceutical industry," says CFR Senior Fellow for Global Health Laurie Garrett
    "Now that pandemic has been declared, more and more countries will guarantee that they will purchase vaccine if it is available, and WHO and World Bank will guarantee to purchase for the poorest countries in the world."
    The Irish Times 13 June 2009: It would cost about €80 million to purchase a vaccine against the swine flu.
    It had long been predicted that the WHO would declare the swine flu to be a level-six pandemic!!
    Dare you let yourself be vaccinated against a harmles flu virus – much less harmful than seasonal flu – by money– and powergrasping New World Order psychopats?
     

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