the Unofficial Aliens discussion thread.

[BeRzErKaS]

Heres something else that bugs me though...

Lets assume that the recent alien visits aren't the first. Have you guys ever heard the stories of how archaeologists sometimes find references to strange flying saucer shaped objects in ancient manuscripts and sometimes even in cave paintings? Those findings are what fuel stories about aliens helping to build things like the pyramids and stone henge.

Anyway, my problem is this: if aliens were flyings saucers thousands of years ago...why the hell would they be flying the same ships today? It doesn't make sense.

Look at humans for example. We went from walking to driving to flying to space exploration to landing on another planet in the course of 100 years. In another 50 years our current ships we be completely obsolete.

This leads to any number of interesting questions. Most relevant of which being if cave paintings are true, then why haven't the aliens advanced in thousands of years? Maybe they aren't more advanced than us. Or maybe they were and we are slowly catching them. They may be an older life form than us, but maybe we are smarter and thusly are able to advance faster. What will happen when we catch them? Surpass them?

I dunno, just more food for thought I guess...



EDIT: ...and another thing, scientists always claim that aliens would be benign because we "pose no threat to them." If we are developing faster than them couldn't that be interpreted as a threat? Might they try to stop slow our progression somewhow?

[dr_krapp]

HA! the citys anunian priest is here! YES they visited, they started human life on earth to mine gold to make white gold powder for anti-grav engines(yes it works human scientists have proved it possible) thats why the first genetic labs of the aliens were by gold mines (according to the aceint text)

[Zylark]

why am i always so late into these threads... maybe i spend too little time online.

anyways, put me down for doubtfull.

i certainly don't believe they crashlanded at any rate, and for those that have "seen" or been abducted by ET? really, give me a break. as for the whole anunaki theory, it just doesn't fit.

i do however believe that any intelligence out there is probably more advanced than ours. this i believe coz' we're still in our juvenile stage. we haven't even managed to stop bickering amongst ourselves. also they might or migh not be benign.

pro benign: they have avoided blasting themselves into oblivion, this calles for a philosophy that teaches tolerance and respect for all that is different. their own species or others. seeing as they too need an ecosystem to live, just as we do.

contra benign: they have a view upon themself as beeing superior. this is manifested much in their advanced technology. anything less than their own, they will look upon with distrust and disrespect. that is not to say that they'll go into a killing spree when faced with less advanced civilzations (like ours for example), but they won't care much either if we live or perish.

but i digress. much of the reason i believe noone have visited us yet is coz' the universe is so vast, and even tho' it might be filled with life, it won't be filled with intelligence. not advanced intelligence and spacefaring civilzations at least. for a race to expand beyond its own solar system requires a truly advanced technology and faster than light travel (which i believe is fully feasable), and as all others cultures, they will expand gradually, centered on their home system. for such a civilization to reach an expanse that is soo huge that it comes into contact with earth (or more correct, earth-originated radio signals) is infinitely small. our own SETI program have still to discover any hint of artificial radi-signalling in our neighbourhood.

what i find more likely than aliens visiting earth (if only a little) is that they might be monitoring the earth from a distance. maybe as close as the jovian moons, or as far away as from some of our neighbouring stars. this gives ET two very good advantages:

1: we don't know they're there and thus we know nothing of their abilities
2: they learn all they need to know about us without risking potential harmfull contact

this post got long didn't it? and i still have so much to say on the subject. maybe later...

(oh and digit, i spottet two minor flaws. you mentioned time travel. relativity only permits forward time travel, not reverse. and astrology got nothing to do with science. astronomy though do. i'm nitpicking here, i know)

[dirtydingusus]

aleins or how ever you spell them can fuck off!

[Digit]

firstly what berserkas sez...

the aliens you speak of i believe to be us from the future. it would explain the discrepancies we experience in the reports of their technology. either that or like was previously said, they have a philosophy that teaches them not to run around blowing themselves up with forever bigger and more dangerous weapons like we do.

zy. thnx for pointing that out... i know the difference... my fingers didnt when typing that tho.
and as for the time travel thing... nah. i dont agree. i think this was an area that Bhors (or was it Behrs?) and Einstien had disagreements over too. we know that time can slow down as we travel faster. so why is it inconcievable to presume that should you go fast enough (light speed perhaps) you travel back in time. we cannot know for sure because once you do break lightspeed all our maths of the universe basically goes out the window. but up until that point, time would continue to get slower.

dingususususus...
the term "you aint from around here are you boy" springs to mind. hehe.

[Digit]

i had totally forgotten about this thread.

someone brought it back to life by voting.
- interesting results so far in teh poll.

[Chronic420]

Why are you guys even talking about this!? the Aliens invaded yesterday they have allready taken half of the US and all of our Major army Stations. but theres allways a good side to it! there not evil or mean and they have the best damn weed on Earth!!! lol

[Digit]

Originally posted by told
time travel cannot happen what has happened cant be redone. time CAN however slow down SIGNIFIGANtly. maybe even stop and we wouldnt notice. but that one who was in the really fast time would age incredibally. this just makes so much sense to me.

if it makes so much sence to you then how did you get it wrong? those who travel faster time will pass slower and so they will age less than the stationary people

teleportation IS possible aswell. in fact weve teleported a single cell from one lab to another. thats the easy part. the HARD part is compiling the trillions and trillions of cells back together to form what ever it was you transported.

a cell!? is that new?!
woah!
i know they had managed a particle (a photon i think) in Ausie, but a whole cell!!!!!??? as in a biological cell? woah. far out if thats the case. that would mean that transporter technology is developing REALLY quickly. we could be telepping all over the place within our lifetimes.

man im just babling and im sure this stuffhas been said before so im just going to shut up before i embarass myself any further.

embarassed? no need.

[daiseyduked]

well i know they have visited earth. why i don't why. maybe for supplies. who knows lol. procreating ( heard of it) who can really say? but i have seen the ufo in the sky. no doubt aboot it. it was huge, i mean huge. and orange. solid orange.and freaked the fuck out of me. i've seen(i think it's the same one) it b4 when i was younger. i was scared shitless for yrs. couldn't sleep at nite. literally layin in my bed shakin. all hours of the nite. over time u get used to the idea they r there and hope they don't know who u are and r comin for ya. i almost felt invaded, maybe the idea that the unknown is known?

[adamBC]

DEFINATELY Visited earth!! I seen em flying round the barn in der darn spinning discs. Dey even pickded up ol' man bill from down the way they did. dropped'm off naked in a field over by the dungerees ol' place...




but seriously!! The day AFTER i saw the movie signs, i was walking down the street at around 10pm. I look up, about 50 feet above me and 50 feet out was THREE orange balls of light. They flew in a triangle formation at a pretty high speed, and shifted postions as the 3 corners of the triangle as they went. i pointed them out to my bud, who also saw them, and then they went behind a street lamp where the glare blocked em out, and they flew off over the horizon. craaaaaaaazy stuff.

[daiseyduked]

Originally posted by adamBC
but seriously!! The day AFTER i saw the movie signs, i was walking down the street at around 10pm. I look up, about 50 feet above me and 50 feet out was THREE orange balls of light. They flew in a triangle formation at a pretty high speed, and shifted postions as the 3 corners of the triangle as they went. i pointed them out to my bud, who also saw them, and then they went behind a street lamp where the glare blocked em out, and they flew off over the horizon. craaaaaaaazy stuff.

seriously? u've seen orange ufo's too! i've never heard of anyone seein orange ufos. but i just seen one big mother fucker. one really big motha. i was on art bell(radio talk show)coast to coast and told him aboot it on the air. freaky as shit!

[adamBC]

have you ever seen a street lamp at night. how it looks somewhat like a glowing orange globe??

it was like 3 of those, each maybe abit bigger than a basketball. they were real close.

[daiseyduked]

Originally posted by adamBC
have you ever seen a street lamp at night. how it looks somewhat like a glowing orange globe??

it was like 3 of those, each maybe abit bigger than a basketball. they were real close.

what i seen was friggin huge, almost as big as a small strip mall, it was above it. no glow to it. no sound just like it was drawn on the sky. just there. and i had i was babysittin this little guy about 8 and he didn't see it. but u couldn't miss it! there is no way. idon't understand it and i know what i saw. no way in hell anyone could tell me any diff.

[SereneSmoker]

Dude I am more likely crazy but when I was around the young age of 10 or maybe 11, I went camping with my family and during the night I saw this huge fucking glowing humanoid thing, and something came out of its hand.Man, now I am paranoid!

[Punks Not Dead]

what if Earth! is like on that one episode of south park...where it turned out earth was some universal reality show with species from different planets throne onto one to see what happens (that would be really fuckin weird) cuz they said "1 planet, 1 species...simple as that" (that was the alien dude who was explaining it) i dont know...but htat would be pretty weird if it were true (and im not gonna even get started on what if we are in the matrix shit (that movie really got me thinkin cuz i was totally plowed when i first saw it) cuz i mean...what if!) and yah! WOO!