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Torture?
Torture techniques used to obtain information from Terrorist.
pick as many as apply.
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02-01-2008, 11:49 PM
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... you sick fucks.
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02-01-2008, 11:53 PM
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Thats kinda harsh dont you think. Its just a debate and so far only the question has been posted.
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02-01-2008, 11:54 PM
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Completely against any form of torture whatsoever.
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02-01-2008, 11:59 PM
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Dude, if it's a terrorist, yeah, you can totally fuck them up.
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02-02-2008, 12:00 AM
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I'm not so much against torturing someone if it's guaranteed they are guilty of some crime, but doing it to extract information is wrong.
Any time you use torture to get info the credibility is instantly shot. It's useless as people will spew anything to stop the torture, they will admit to things they didn't do, they will give up people who didn't do anything, sometimes even their own family. Torturing people who murder and rape should be mandatory. At least the ones who do it to children. Also italians should be tortured. Greasy whop bastards... 
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02-02-2008, 12:15 AM
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i'm willing to bet the gov't has mind control techniques that work alot better than torture
so i'm not really one for torture unless like someone else said, that they're obviously guilty of some some heinous crime and they possibly have info on others who were involved |
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02-02-2008, 12:23 AM
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as far as sleep depravation or making them listen to britany songs at high volume all night go right ahead man.
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02-02-2008, 12:39 AM
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that's not true. The whole "torture" debate is due to the fact that terrorist aren't recognized under US law and the Geneva convention. It's precisely why torture is able. And for people saying credibility is shot because people will say anything is bullshit. You're right. People might say anything at first. Course once we find out that its wrong it all starts over until the right information is given. I'm for some torture...terrorists aren't held under the Geneva convention and they definitely aren't subject to US law. They don't have the right to an attorney or to due process or any other rights. This is because they ARE NOT US CITIZENS. US citizens have these rights because they subscribe to US laws and what they can and can't do. Terrorists have no respect for people, especially the people they are attacking. They don't belong to a country so its hard to track them down to one static location. |
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02-02-2008, 12:43 AM
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I oppose any and all forms of torture mental or physical. For one, it is un-american to be pro-torture, and we all know what a patriot I am, breaking the law everyday as to engage in recreational endeavors...but seriously, fuck torture. It isn't accurate in it's extraction methods...often under extreme mental or physical duress people will say anything just to make the torture stop. Albeit attaining information such ways is lazy and illogical. I view torture of "suspected" terrorists no more than a means of wasting time rather than doing some actual investigative work. And I don't think torturing people is any way to investigate the crimes of a terrorist.
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02-02-2008, 12:46 AM
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Not to mention the Military Commissions act that gives the president the ability to declare enemy combatants as they see fit and take away the right to habeus corpus. This is new legislation, it'll be too late before we realize how fucked we truly are.
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02-02-2008, 12:48 AM
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Physical torture is seldom effective but mental torture can be very effective. The mind can be used to inflict pain that even the hardest of men cannot endure.
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