Lucid Dreaming?

TooSicKs · #1 (**permalink**) 05-27-2003, 04:03 PM

Hey all, i was womderin' if any of you here actively practice lucid dreaming. Lately i've been trying in order to figure out some new moves on my bike. I have a dream about ridin' i recognize it's a dream sometimes but most of the time i realize when i wake up. I'v heard of people using some sort of cue to enter a lucid state.

For those who practice this, do you have any tips that would allow me to achieve a bit more than accidental lucidity?

Thanks for any help!

Peace

ubik · #2 (**permalink**) 05-27-2003, 04:07 PM

Know about that stuff but haven't really got into it yet

weedboss · #3 (**permalink**) 05-27-2003, 04:59 PM

Not me presonally but my brother who is a very spiritual person has(does) lucid dreams.

NuBBiN · #4 (**permalink**) 05-28-2003, 03:33 AM

get in the habit of turning lights on and off every time you enter a room..this habit will bleed over into your unconscious state and since dreams have a hard time with wide ranges of light intensity its usually a good cue.

You can also get into other habits

Like reading things twice (the first time it could be garble but you dont even know/care because you still somehow understood the meaning, but a second glance at the sign/book/paper usually cues you into the dream).

You can also get in the habit of looking down at your hands and turning them palm up and palm down a few times and just sort of agnologing them...dreams oftentimes even in first person still dont bother creating hands, since you arent looking at them...also your brain knows exactly what your true hands look like, theyre one of a kind and you've been looking at them from day one, so oftentimes when you look down in a dream and the hands dont look familiar, this can cue you.

I'd also suggest you look into an herb called "Calea Zachatechichi" (calea, or dream herb for short). Traditional native use involved smoking a rolled joint of the herb, drinking a tea made of the herb (very unpleasently bitter) and also sleeping with the herb under their bed/pillow. Its shown to promote very lucid dream states in large amounts as well as lots of auditory hallucinations...give it a try

TooSicKs · #5 (**permalink**) 05-28-2003, 03:53 AM

Thanks nubbin, you answered a few questions i didn't think to ask also. You said light intensity can be used as a trigger, should i add a 15 minute light cycle to my nightstand lamp at the approximate timeframe i would expect rem to happen?

I'll look into the herb also.

Thanks

Mr_Criminal · #6 (**permalink**) 05-29-2003, 01:53 AM

I have no tips, but since you mentioned it, I have to share my lucid dream! Lately since I haven't been smoking, I have very detailed dreams. I dreamt I was doing matrix stuff!

Fun fun.. fun..
Started off just running around shootin people (I was on a mission or SOMETHIN) in some office building. Then I was like, "hey.. what am I doin.. oh hey.. I'm dreaming.. weee" and started doing 0 gravity stuff and.. yeah.. I should start trying to intentionally have lucid dreams. They're fun.

D9_THC · #7 (**permalink**) 05-29-2003, 02:07 AM

"I've been dreaming, I've been dreaming I was lucid. Blood was seeping, it was seeping from my pores. Who'd believe that it was all my own decision?"

-Davey Havok

Sorry. I just love that song, so I had to post some lyrics

declara · #8 (**permalink**) 05-29-2003, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NuBBiN
get in the habit of turning lights on and off every time you enter a room..this habit will bleed over into your unconscious state and since dreams have a hard time with wide ranges of light intensity its usually a good cue.

You can also get into other habits

Like reading things twice (the first time it could be garble but you dont even know/care because you still somehow understood the meaning, but a second glance at the sign/book/paper usually cues you into the dream).

You can also get in the habit of looking down at your hands and turning them palm up and palm down a few times and just sort of agnologing them...dreams oftentimes even in first person still dont bother creating hands, since you arent looking at them...also your brain knows exactly what your true hands look like, theyre one of a kind and you've been looking at them from day one, so oftentimes when you look down in a dream and the hands dont look familiar, this can cue you.

I'd also suggest you look into an herb called "Calea Zachatechichi" (calea, or dream herb for short). Traditional native use involved smoking a rolled joint of the herb, drinking a tea made of the herb (very unpleasently bitter) and also sleeping with the herb under their bed/pillow. Its shown to promote very lucid dream states in large amounts as well as lots of auditory hallucinations...give it a try

I've had them before but only randomly. Where can that herb be found, common places or is it tough to come by.

clonemeister · #9 (**permalink**) 05-29-2003, 04:55 PM

Ater reading "The Teachings of Don Juan" as a teenager, I successfully used the "look at your hands" technique described in the books and by Nubbin. If you haven't read or heard of them , check'em out, they were written by Carlos Castenada, and I beleive there are 5 books in the series. I was also able to "stop the world" as described in the books, very mind expanding stuff, similar to meditation really. Good luck with the dreams.

smokin&tokin · #10 (**permalink**) 05-29-2003, 11:13 PM

my aunt does all that kinda stuff all the time too!

declara · #11 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 03:48 AM

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Originally posted by WhitE_RabbiT
would somebody mind explaing to me just exactly wut lucid dreaming is, or perhaps point me to another source of information.

It's the abilty to control your dreams. If you are in control then you're having a lucid dream. Generaly you have to realize you're dreaming to be able to control it, and I guess realize that you can control it.

Looking at your hands when you're awake is supposed to help. I think the reason is that you'll look at your hands in your dream out of habit but you'll notice that they look different and that might trigger the realization that you're dreaming.

Then there is the Calea Zachatechichi or dream herb, that is supposed to help lucid dreaming, I have yet to try it but am activly searching for it.

TooSicKs · #12 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 10:44 AM

During lucidity you can do anything, you are god of your own world, lawnmower man.

If you really achieve lucidity you can do stuff like fly, morph anything, go anywhere, if you can imagine it, it becomes real, and even more because your dreaming mind will help fill in the blanks.

I'm intersted in using lucid dreaming to practice some real hardcore aggressive biking in my mind before i go out and huck a 20 foot cliff, etc, that way i can have a better chance of working out the visualization on the crazier stuff. If i can "ride in my sleep" i think i can translate more skill to the bike in the real physical dimension.

Peace

iseesmurfs420 · #13 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 02:06 PM

That shit is crazy!! After reading it I might look into it
So wait whats this thing about looking at your hands??
Just look at them a lot and recognize them???

TooSicKs · #14 (**permalink**) 05-30-2003, 02:21 PM

yea i still don't quite get the hand thing either, from what i gather, if you look at your hands a lot while you're awake (aside from being accused of being on acid) when you dream and you look at your hands and theu don't look "quite right" then it will supposedly trigger lucidity by realization that they're not your "real" hands.

i've been trying to me what seems like the most simple an direct route to lucid dreaming, before bed i tell myself repeatedly that if i am riding my bike i am dreaming.

I used the trigger of that last night to enter a very brief state, right near the end of my dreams i was riding and was "in control"

I want to practice having longer lucid dreams with better recall.

PEace

Digit · #15 (**permalink**) 05-31-2003, 02:28 AM

strange thing happened last night....

just as i was falling asleep, i started talking alloud a whole load of preachy shit about the world today as i see it.
then when i'm asleep and in rem, i had the longest continious flow of dreams i've ever had, many of which i was able to control.

one was about swordfighting (i guess i crave Soul Calibur 2 more than i thought), then one about being on the programe hard talk speaking to ... cheny i think it was, then a dream about...... oh crap... i can barely remember the rest... anyways, there were at least 8 dreams in a row as i was i an almost awake state of mind.

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#1 (permalink) 05-27-2003, 04:03 PM
TooSicKs Old School Stoner Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,092	Lucid Dreaming? Hey all, i was womderin' if any of you here actively practice lucid dreaming. Lately i've been trying in order to figure out some new moves on my bike. I have a dream about ridin' i recognize it's a dream sometimes but most of the time i realize when i wake up. I'v heard of people using some sort of cue to enter a lucid state. For those who practice this, do you have any tips that would allow me to achieve a bit more than accidental lucidity? Thanks for any help! Peace __________________ "They taste like crap! What are these mints called?" "Excre-Mints" "I Think I Thought Therefore I Thought I Was" "Is it stoned in here or is it just me?" "One out of every four people is suffering from some form of mental illness. Check three friends. If they're OK, then it's you." "Cuz' tha weedflo don't stop an they ain' no cops, bustin people tokin in they own box, ya wanna know was up ya wanna know where I'll be, I be chillin up in Ol'skool-B"

#2 (permalink) 05-27-2003, 04:07 PM
ubik Old School Stoner Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 593	Know about that stuff but haven't really got into it yet __________________ -Mankind surely does not represent an evolution toward a better or stronger or higher level, as progress is now understood.-

#3 (permalink) 05-27-2003, 04:59 PM
weedboss Old School Stoner Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: here---> Posts: 1,907	Not me presonally but my brother who is a very spiritual person has(does) lucid dreams. __________________ This is paradise, I'm tellin' ya. This town like a great big pussy jus' waitin' to get fucked®

#4 (permalink) 05-28-2003, 03:33 AM
NuBBiN Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Eugene, Oregon Posts: 2,235	get in the habit of turning lights on and off every time you enter a room..this habit will bleed over into your unconscious state and since dreams have a hard time with wide ranges of light intensity its usually a good cue. You can also get into other habits Like reading things twice (the first time it could be garble but you dont even know/care because you still somehow understood the meaning, but a second glance at the sign/book/paper usually cues you into the dream). You can also get in the habit of looking down at your hands and turning them palm up and palm down a few times and just sort of agnologing them...dreams oftentimes even in first person still dont bother creating hands, since you arent looking at them...also your brain knows exactly what your true hands look like, theyre one of a kind and you've been looking at them from day one, so oftentimes when you look down in a dream and the hands dont look familiar, this can cue you. I'd also suggest you look into an herb called "Calea Zachatechichi" (calea, or dream herb for short). Traditional native use involved smoking a rolled joint of the herb, drinking a tea made of the herb (very unpleasently bitter) and also sleeping with the herb under their bed/pillow. Its shown to promote very lucid dream states in large amounts as well as lots of auditory hallucinations...give it a try __________________ "A human being is part of the whole called by us universe , a part limited in time and space. We experience ourselves, our thoughts and feelings as something separate from the rest. A kind of optical delusion of consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from the prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty... We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if mankind is to survive." Albert Einstein

#5 (permalink) 05-28-2003, 03:53 AM
TooSicKs Old School Stoner Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,092	Thanks nubbin, you answered a few questions i didn't think to ask also. You said light intensity can be used as a trigger, should i add a 15 minute light cycle to my nightstand lamp at the approximate timeframe i would expect rem to happen? I'll look into the herb also. Thanks __________________ "They taste like crap! What are these mints called?" "Excre-Mints" "I Think I Thought Therefore I Thought I Was" "Is it stoned in here or is it just me?" "One out of every four people is suffering from some form of mental illness. Check three friends. If they're OK, then it's you." "Cuz' tha weedflo don't stop an they ain' no cops, bustin people tokin in they own box, ya wanna know was up ya wanna know where I'll be, I be chillin up in Ol'skool-B"

#6 (permalink) 05-29-2003, 01:53 AM
Mr_Criminal Meatwad Mentality Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,411	I have no tips, but since you mentioned it, I have to share my lucid dream! Lately since I haven't been smoking, I have very detailed dreams. I dreamt I was doing matrix stuff! Fun fun.. fun.. Started off just running around shootin people (I was on a mission or SOMETHIN) in some office building. Then I was like, "hey.. what am I doin.. oh hey.. I'm dreaming.. weee" and started doing 0 gravity stuff and.. yeah.. I should start trying to intentionally have lucid dreams. They're fun.

#7 (permalink) 05-29-2003, 02:07 AM
D9_THC Old School Stoner Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Aldershot, Hampshire, UK Posts: 2,010	"I've been dreaming, I've been dreaming I was lucid. Blood was seeping, it was seeping from my pores. Who'd believe that it was all my own decision?" -Davey Havok Sorry. I just love that song, so I had to post some lyrics __________________ The anti-marijuana campaign is a cancerous tissue of lies, undermining law enforcement, aggravating the drug problem, depriving the sick of needed help, and suckering well-intentioned conservatives and countless fightened parents. -William F Buckley

#9 (permalink) 05-29-2003, 04:55 PM
clonemeister Old School Stoner Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Stabbin Cabin Posts: 509	Ater reading "The Teachings of Don Juan" as a teenager, I successfully used the "look at your hands" technique described in the books and by Nubbin. If you haven't read or heard of them , check'em out, they were written by Carlos Castenada, and I beleive there are 5 books in the series. I was also able to "stop the world" as described in the books, very mind expanding stuff, similar to meditation really. Good luck with the dreams. __________________ one bud to bring them all.........and in the darkness bind them "I do not understand this sqeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes." ......Winston Churchill

#10 (permalink) 05-29-2003, 11:13 PM
smokin&tokin Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,838	my aunt does all that kinda stuff all the time too!

#12 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 10:44 AM
TooSicKs Old School Stoner Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,092	During lucidity you can do anything, you are god of your own world, lawnmower man. If you really achieve lucidity you can do stuff like fly, morph anything, go anywhere, if you can imagine it, it becomes real, and even more because your dreaming mind will help fill in the blanks. I'm intersted in using lucid dreaming to practice some real hardcore aggressive biking in my mind before i go out and huck a 20 foot cliff, etc, that way i can have a better chance of working out the visualization on the crazier stuff. If i can "ride in my sleep" i think i can translate more skill to the bike in the real physical dimension. Peace __________________ "They taste like crap! What are these mints called?" "Excre-Mints" "I Think I Thought Therefore I Thought I Was" "Is it stoned in here or is it just me?" "One out of every four people is suffering from some form of mental illness. Check three friends. If they're OK, then it's you." "Cuz' tha weedflo don't stop an they ain' no cops, bustin people tokin in they own box, ya wanna know was up ya wanna know where I'll be, I be chillin up in Ol'skool-B"

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#13 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 02:06 PM
iseesmurfs420 Master Toker!!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 366	That shit is crazy!! After reading it I might look into it So wait whats this thing about looking at your hands?? Just look at them a lot and recognize them???

#14 (permalink) 05-30-2003, 02:21 PM
TooSicKs Old School Stoner Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,092	yea i still don't quite get the hand thing either, from what i gather, if you look at your hands a lot while you're awake (aside from being accused of being on acid) when you dream and you look at your hands and theu don't look "quite right" then it will supposedly trigger lucidity by realization that they're not your "real" hands. i've been trying to me what seems like the most simple an direct route to lucid dreaming, before bed i tell myself repeatedly that if i am riding my bike i am dreaming. I used the trigger of that last night to enter a very brief state, right near the end of my dreams i was riding and was "in control" I want to practice having longer lucid dreams with better recall. PEace __________________ "They taste like crap! What are these mints called?" "Excre-Mints" "I Think I Thought Therefore I Thought I Was" "Is it stoned in here or is it just me?" "One out of every four people is suffering from some form of mental illness. Check three friends. If they're OK, then it's you." "Cuz' tha weedflo don't stop an they ain' no cops, bustin people tokin in they own box, ya wanna know was up ya wanna know where I'll be, I be chillin up in Ol'skool-B"

#15 (permalink) 05-31-2003, 02:28 AM
Digit Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,829	strange thing happened last night.... just as i was falling asleep, i started talking alloud a whole load of preachy shit about the world today as i see it. then when i'm asleep and in rem, i had the longest continious flow of dreams i've ever had, many of which i was able to control. one was about swordfighting (i guess i crave Soul Calibur 2 more than i thought), then one about being on the programe hard talk speaking to ... cheny i think it was, then a dream about...... oh crap... i can barely remember the rest... anyways, there were at least 8 dreams in a row as i was i an almost awake state of mind.