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Old 12-16-2007, 05:59 AM
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It's better to support a candidate who at least supposedly supports my viewpoints than to ignorantly dismiss every political figure as "habitual liars."
 
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:08 AM
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It's better to support a candidate who at least supposedly supports my viewpoints than to ignorantly dismiss every political figure as "habitual liars."
So did you come to GC to grow weed or argue politics ???????
 
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:15 AM
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So did you come to GC to grow weed or argue politics ???????
Both

That's why I post about growing weed in the grow section and post about other things in the general section.

Anyways, he just raised $380,000 in the first hour of the fundraiser. http://freepoliticsdotus.blogspot.co...t-hour-of.html
 
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:18 AM
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http://digg.com/political_opinion/Es...ating_Ron_Paul

ron paul will only follow in the footsteps of jfk, bobby kennedy, martin luther king, malcolm x, and only god knows how many more if he continues to pose a threat to the sociopathic desires of the new world order.

he will not be allowed to pose a threat. whether he's just flat out shot in public, or poisoned in such a way to make it look like he died of natural causes, i think it would happen in one way or another.
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:57 AM
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Yeah I disagree with you but I'm not gonna argue because you're partly right: most of the "libertarians" here are fucking LP modal-types (modal libertarians) who don't know shit about history or politics or philosophy or natural law or any of the other foundations of the ideology.
 
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Old 12-16-2007, 06:58 AM
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ron paul will only follow in the footsteps of jfk, bobby kennedy, martin luther king, malcolm x, and only god knows how many more if he continues to pose a threat to the sociopathic desires of the new world order.

he will not be allowed to pose a threat. whether he's just flat out shot in public, or poisoned in such a way to make it look like he died of natural causes, i think it would happen in one way or another.
JFK? An opposer of the NWO? Damn man you're buying into the very propaganda-mill you're complaining about . . .
 
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:00 AM
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ron paul will only follow in the footsteps of jfk, bobby kennedy, martin luther king, malcolm x, and only god knows how many more if he continues to pose a threat to the sociopathic desires of the new world order.

he will not be allowed to pose a threat. whether he's just flat out shot in public, or poisoned in such a way to make it look like he died of natural causes, i think it would happen in one way or another.
so we just dont vote, we got nothing at all to lose and a hell of a lot to gain.
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:02 AM
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So did you come to GC to grow weed or argue politics ???????
Well I came into this thread to argue politics. But i'm not sure what the hell you're doing here...
 
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:02 AM
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Man thats trip I got people sending me BAD REP for expressing myself.......But If this was a fact based thread and not opinion based, and we agreed they would just post and move on.

If it was fact based, you'd never have posted this thread.

You've stated no facts what-so-ever.

You say, "Ooooh, if he gets elected he might not do the stuff he said he would"

Well what the hell kind of excuse is that to not vote for him. Atleast hes vowed to attempt to better the country.
Not many of the other folk's have even said they'd do anything to attempt.

I dont see logic in voting for a shittier cantidate because you think the good one MIGHT not come through.

Lol.

Brilliant.

Maybe when you're old enough to vote, the maturity will kick in and you'll consider stuff like this.

Until then, live ''above the law'' like you think you are. Till you're sitting in jail with a bologna sandwhich and a sore ass.



EDIT: and if you didnt wanna argue politics like you stated, why did you make a FUCK RON PAUL thread? lol.
 
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Old 12-16-2007, 07:38 AM
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:01 AM
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It always bugs me when people call Ron Paul an isolationist. He's refuted this title many times, with good reason. He is not an isolationist! He simply wants to follow Thomas Jefferson's advice, "free commerce with all nations, political connection with none" Since when did not invading countries and not setting up alliances become isolationist?! Especially during peace - what the fuck do you need an alliance for during a time of peace?!? They only encourage hostility!)

He is a Constitutionalist and a Non-Interventionist. That means he wants to follow what the founding fathers said (unlike the current president) and he wants to stay out of war. How is that a bad idea? Futhermore, how can any other viewpoint be better???
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:26 AM
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Yeah peep my other post in the Ron Paul Support thread.

i think everyone just fell on to the bandwagon... I know I did... but the shit he wants to do.. just not going to cut it.

Someone give me something besides maybe legal weed as to why Ron Paul is a good canidate
 
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:38 AM
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Yeah peep my other post in the Ron Paul Support thread.

i think everyone just fell on to the bandwagon... I know I did... but the shit he wants to do.. just not going to cut it.

Someone give me something besides maybe legal weed as to why Ron Paul is a good canidate
-pull out of Iraq
-abolish the IRS and implement FairTax
-abolish the Federal Reserve (not positive, but I know he hates it so I assume he'd ditch it)
-return to gold standard
-abolish Board of Edu
-would reduce role of the CIA to just intelligence gathering, as opposed to overthrowing foreign governments as it has in the past
-supports gay marriage/ gays in the military
-would lower cost of healthcare

Here's a longer explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politic...ns_of_ron_paul

Oh and here's little tid bit I fucking love: "On January 22, 2007, Paul was the lone member out of 415 voting to oppose a House measure to create a National Archives exhibit on slavery and Reconstruction, as an unauthorized use of taxpayer money."
Paul doesn't want to waste money on frivilous white-guilt bullshit.
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Old 12-16-2007, 08:46 AM
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-pull out of Iraq
Get on the band wagon.
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-abolish the IRS and implement FairTax
That'd be a smooth transition...
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-abolish the Federal Reserve (not positive, but I know he hates it so I assume he'd ditch it)
Same here
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-return to gold standard
Temporary solution (at best) to a long term problem... how is fiscally irresponsible selling and a declining economy going to be fixed by making everything based on a shiny rock
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-abolish Board of Edu
And put what in its place? State government education?? Perfect! Alabama and Kentucky will have really accurate teachings in their school, because Intelligent Design is scientific hypothesis. No really!
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-abolish the CIA (before you flip out we do have other intelligence-gathering agencies, the CIA has tried to overthrow foregin govs in the past and some people think they do more harm than good)
I know all about the CIA. The CIA will not dissolve like that. The president does not work uninhibited.. I can virtually gurantee a skeleton group is formed or integrated into other agencies. I
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-supports gay marriage/ gays in the military
Actually, he said he wouldnt discharge them if they werent disruptive. Not really full fledged support.

In any case, all thes economic changes would cause to much turbulence, which we could not withstand right now.
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Old 12-16-2007, 09:07 AM
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That'd be a smooth transition...
So are you saying it's impossible? I think it can be done. Paul has said that he knows these aren't ideas which can be implemented at the flick of a switch, he's aware that a gradual transition is necessary.

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The central bank wouldn't be allowed to change interest rates at a whim, which Paul insists is contributing to our economies decline. Personally I don't know enough about it, but most smart people I talk to agree with him on that. Also, cutting a good chunk of the federal budget for incompetent bureaucracies and pulling the military out of Iraq and to some degree Afghanistan (can still hunt for Bin Laden but no nation building) will reduce spending, all of which will help stabilize the economy. Not sure what you're referring to with irresponsible selling.

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And put what in its place? State government education?? Perfect! Alabama and Kentucky will have really accurate teachings in their school, because Intelligent Design is scientific hypothesis. No really!
If everyone in Alabama and Kentucky wants to teach their kids ID, then let 'em. The rest of the country will be much better off without the Board. Anyways aren't they already teaching that stuff? Ron on Edu:
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=979

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I know all about the CIA. The CIA will not dissolve like that. The president does not work uninhibited.. I can virtually gurantee a skeleton group is formed or integrated into other agencies.
Well it won't be any worse then, and who knows, maybe Paul will be able to get it done.

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Actually, he said he wouldnt discharge them if they werent disruptive. Not really full fledged support.
How much more supportive do you want him to be? He supports equal treatment for gays.

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In any case, all thes economic changes would cause to much turbulence, which we could not withstand right now.
Paul's policies are what this country needs right now.
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