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Old 12-16-2007, 05:01 AM
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It is legit - politicians are habitual liars, although Paul seems different than most candidates we have seen in the past. However, he is facing a huge disadvantage to begin with. He lacks the support of older voters.
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It is legit - politicians are habitual liars, although Paul seems different than most candidates we have seen in the past. However, he is facing a huge disadvantage to begin with. He lacks the support of older voters.
Not necessarily true, I attended a rally in DC and there were people from all age groups. The majority were definitely 18-35, but there were plenty older supporters. With the Republican field not having a clear cut leader, all those other older voters are split up between four other candidates so that doesn't really hurt him.
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Not necessarily true, I attended a rally in DC and there were people from all age groups. The majority were definitely 18-35, but there were plenty older supporters. With the Republican field not having a clear cut leader, all those other older voters are split up between four other candidates so that doesn't really hurt him.

I think running as a Republican will be is downfall. He is more of a Liberterian and his views are not Republican and not Democratic. He doesn't get the support like Romney and Guiliani.
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I just want to chime in to say that if the only thing you're looking at while studying for the election is a president's stance on marijuana, to please not vote.

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I think it's dumb of you to diss a candidate for trying to do good things to our nation. (Also some insane things, like becoming sorta isolationist...but w.e I want legal pot.)
IMO It shouldn't be "Whatever, I want legal pot...."
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I love most of his views, unfortunately the man is crazy about some things.
Anyone who wants to turn this country isolationist scares the hell out of me,and he wants to kill the IRS... BLEHHHH
Simply enough I cant vote for that even if he wants medical MJ, wants to protect 2nd amendment rights, stop abortion and try to end the war in Iraq and war on drugs.
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:20 AM
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Man thats trip I got people sending me BAD REP for expressing myself.......But If this was a fact based thread and not opinion based, and we agreed they would just post and move on.
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I think running as a Republican will be is downfall. He is more of a Liberterian and his views are not Republican and not Democratic. He doesn't get the support like Romney and Guiliani.

He ran as a Libertarian in 1988 and announced he is not going to run as a third party candidate ever again simply because our country just will not elect a third party to the White House, it's damn near impossible. He is a Republican, just not the Republican you grew to know and hate during your lifetime. The party has gone drastically off charter. Sure he doesn't get the support like Romney and Guiliani because he's not a billionaire and he wasn't already a nationally known figure. But Republicans aren't happy with their choices and he's garnishing more and more support each day from disenfranchised voters. Hopefully after tomorrow the mainstream media will finally accept that he is a serious candidate and does have a legitimate chance of getting the nomination.
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Everyday there is another thread about Ron Paul, It seems most have been blinded by his empty promises to legalize Marijuana. All politicians are habitual liars our whole society and government is built on LIES, The goal is to bamboozle the naive public and receive as many votes as you can by telling evryone what they want to hear. I for one am Immune to the BULLSHIT, So I decided to start The Official " FUCK RON PAUL" Thread for those of us who refuse to except the propaganda.
I think most people just like what he stands for man...it has nothing to do with what he's gonna do if he gets elected.
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:27 AM
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I think most people just like what he stands for man...it has nothing to do with what he's gonna do if he gets elected.
And that may be the problem.......
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Old 12-16-2007, 05:29 AM
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I love most of his views, unfortunately the man is crazy about some things.
Anyone who wants to turn this country isolationist scares the hell out of me,and he wants to kill the IRS... BLEHHHH
Simply enough I cant vote for that even if he wants medical MJ, wants to protect 2nd amendment rights, stop abortion and try to end the war in Iraq and war on drugs.
The only time the word "isolationist" has ever come out of Ron Paul's mouth is when he's explaining how he is not an isolationist. There is a HUGE difference between being an isolationist and having a foreign policy of non-interventionism.

And what's wrong with abolishing the IRS?

http://www.enigmacurry.com/2006/04/1...ul-on-the-irs/
http://www.ncpa.org/debate2/case5.html

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I think most people just like what he stands for man...it has nothing to do with what he's gonna do if he gets elected.
No, it has everything to do with what he's going to do if he gets elected! That's why they like him!

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The goal is to bamboozle the naive public and receive as many votes as you can by telling evryone what they want to hear.
Yea because legalizing weed and abolishing the CIA are such popular positions in this country
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And that may be the problem.......
I know but can you really blame them? He's one of the first presidential candidates to even speak about these issues. Of course people are going to jump to support him.
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Anyone who wants to turn this country isolationist scares the hell out of me,and he wants to kill the IRS... BLEHHHH
"Isolationism is a foreign policy which combines a non-interventionist military policy and a political policy of economic nationalism (protectionism). In other words, it asserts both of the following:

1. Non-interventionism - Political rulers should avoid entangling alliances with other nations and avoid all wars not related to direct territorial self-defense.
2. Protectionism - There should be legal barriers to control trade and cultural exchange with people in other states."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolationist

In other words, NOT what Ron Paul is encouraging. And you really think we need the IRS? They complicate shit far more than it needs to be and there's no transparency. FairTax would mean everyone pays the same, no unscrupulous tax breaks for the rich.
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I know but can you really blame them? He's one of the first presidential candidates to even speak about these issues. Of course people are going to jump to support him.
I know genius isn't it , The plan is working.........
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I bet you're not even old enough to vote.
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