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Old 12-12-2007, 03:22 PM
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Cutler!!! Wave of the future baby.


Really though, its got to be Brady. I hate the team but come on....wow.


Still, you all be talking about Cutler and Brandon Marshall soon enough.
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Old 12-12-2007, 04:30 PM
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My vote for be for Moss, the guy is just amazing, and he most certainly has helped Brady out quite a bit this season
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Without brady there's no moss (the argument for the other is weaker because brady has always been dominant without great wrs and now he has a bunch)...so brady imo, but if the award went to the most outstanding player and not most valued it would be ap

after all rbs fucking suck this year. def. a passer's league.
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My vote for be for Moss, the guy is just amazing, and he most certainly has helped Brady out quite a bit this season
You know that TO's #'s are better than Moss', right?
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Old 12-12-2007, 11:18 PM
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You know that TO's #'s are better than Moss', right?
Cottons cottons cottons.. you are killing us.. lol.. T.O has more yards, but Moss has more TD's.. and IMO TD's are better than Yards.

I think overall Moss is the better WR, however T.O is a much better runner.. Moss has the hands.. and T.O is the physical one.
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MOSS FTW

brady throws jump balls all the time

and moss comes down with them all the time
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They make each other MVPs. Without Moss, Brady would of put up very average numbers this year,and without Brady, Moss would be rolling blunts and not practicing by now.

That said the MVP is Tom Brady.
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KingPins... The column to the left is TO, the one to the right is Moss... They're not all that different...

Games
Carries
Rushing Yards
Rushing Average
Longest Run
Rushing Touchdowns Rushing 1st Downs
Rush for 1st Dn
Runs of 20+ Yards Receptions
Receiving Yards
Receiving Average
Longest Reception Receiving Touchdowns Receiving 1st Downs
Rec for 1st Dn
Receptions of 20+ Yards Receptions of 40+ Yards
2-Point Conversions
Total Touchdowns
Total Points
13
1
5
5.0
5
0
0
0.0
0
74
1,70
17.2
52
14
62
83.8
22
6
0
14
84
13
0
0
0.0
0
0
0
0.0

0
82
1,264
15.4
63
19
62
75.6
16
7
0
19
114
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KingPins... The column to the left is TO, the one to the right is Moss... They're not all that different...

Games
Carries
Rushing Yards
Rushing Average
Longest Run
Rushing Touchdowns Rushing 1st Downs
Rush for 1st Dn
Runs of 20+ Yards Receptions
Receiving Yards
Receiving Average
Longest Reception Receiving Touchdowns Receiving 1st Downs
Rec for 1st Dn
Receptions of 20+ Yards Receptions of 40+ Yards
2-Point Conversions
Total Touchdowns
Total Points

13
1
5
5.0
5
0
0
0.0
0
74
1,270
17.2
52
14
62
83.8
22
6
0
14
84

13
0
0
0.0
0
0
0
0.0
0
82
1,264
15.4
63
19
62
75.6
16
7
0
19
114

thats the big difference, but yea their almost identical as far yards and receptions go
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Old 12-13-2007, 12:32 AM
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KingPins... The column to the left is TO, the one to the right is Moss... They're not all that different...

Games
Carries
Rushing Yards
Rushing Average
Longest Run
Rushing Touchdowns Rushing 1st Downs
Rush for 1st Dn
Runs of 20+ Yards Receptions
Receiving Yards
Receiving Average
Longest Reception Receiving Touchdowns Receiving 1st Downs
Rec for 1st Dn
Receptions of 20+ Yards Receptions of 40+ Yards
2-Point Conversions
Total Touchdowns
Total Points

13
1
5
5.0
5
0
0
0.0
0
74
1,70
17.2
52
14
62
83.8
22
6
0
14
84

13
0
0
0.0
0
0
0
0.0
0
82
1,264
15.4
63
19
62
75.6
16
7
0
19
114

Right... almost identical.. except for the most important stat.. TD's and hes 5 behind, which is somewhat significant.

Im a cowboys fan man.. trust me, i love T.O.. but either way a WR isnt the MVP.

Brett Farve should also be considered depending on how the Packers finish.
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Sometimes numbers can be misleading though. TDs, receptions...those are concrete. But receiving average? That could be thrown off by a screen pass to either receiver where they only gained a yard, and it brings their average way down. Terrell Owens is a fantastic player, no doubt about it and he's right up there in running, but I think the press is going to focus on how Moss came back from obscurity, how some thought he was washed up, and he did it without missing a step. You could point to TO's four touchdowns in 3 quarters game (11/18), but Moss did the same in two quarters (same day)!

When do they vote on it? Do they take into account the playoffs, or is it like the MLB where C.C. Sabathia can suck in the postseason and still beat the ALCS MVP Josh Beckett (who had more regular season wins) for the Cy Young?
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I think Romo should get it, to be honest. Look at where Dallas was BEFORE Romo, compared to this year (his first whole season as the starter). He puts up #'s comparable to Brady, and actually has some areas where he's better (and others where he's worse). NE was good last year and the year before, etc... Dallas wasn't. IMO, Romo has brought Dallas a lot farther than Brady has brought NE. In his first complete season as a starter he's already surpassed every other Dallas QB, and has taken the Boys to 12-1... Their best starting record, EVER. If that's not MVP material, I don't know what is.
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Brady will get it no doubt tho, 45 TD's and only 5 INT's is just too hard to ignore and the fact that he'll pass Manning's single season passing TD record(49) is just icing on the cake
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