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Old School Stoner
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Help my friend fight the power and spread peace!!!
For those of you who missed my last psot, let me just try to catch you up on everything. Grandpa Woodstock is a friends of mine who after nthe 60's made it his mission on life to walk the earth like the dude from king fu, but insteadl of fighting injustice kicking ass, he fights nehativity by spreading a message of peace. He waks every year from woodstock, new york across the country to here every year. In march he was arrested for "disturbing the peace" by a dick police officer here in town, (BTW i know the cop personally also and he IS a dick, as are a few others, officer swan, officer gardiner, assholes both of em) his act of disturbance was honking a toy bicycle horn at a passing car and gesturing a peace sign with a smile. It seems some cops here in town have a thing against peace.
Grandpa told me, "you have the internet, right? can you get the word out about my story? I want people to know and i want to do whatever i can to spread my message of peace, man!"
So i ask all of you to help and take a few minutes to read the most recent article below. If you want to ask or tell me something to tell grandpa woodstock, i see him everyday and talk to him, and he'd love to get some feedback and just feel some positive energy in the midst of the injustice a few overzealous cops have caused him.
Here's a newspaper article about the most recent happenings
Officials review ownership of cave after Woodstock told to leave
By Ann Waters
Herald/Review
BISBEE -- Bisbee police officers twice entered a cave located on a mountain overlooking Bisbee where Grandpa Woodstock is living and ordered him to leave because he was trespassing on city property.
These visits, which took place Thursday and Sunday, have been followed by city officials questioning if the city owns the property and has the authority to ask Woodstock to leave.
Local resident Robert Rowe said he owns the property and allowed Woodstock to stay in the cave.
Police Chief Jim Elkins said he and Lt. Ed Holly visited the cave Tuesday afternoon. Using a map from the Cochise County Assessor's Office, Elkins said he and Holly were able to discern the cave was not on city property. Elkins said he has prior surveying experience from a previous job.
"It appears that the cave Woodstock is living in is not on city property, so as far as the police department is concerned, based on that information, this is a dead issue for the police," Elkins said.
The city still is looking for a survey map to help determine if the cave is located on city property. The map, which was made by Bisbee Engineering when a communications tower was erected nearby, had not been found as of Tuesday afternoon, City Manager Rob Yandow said.
Yandow said he was only told about the situation Monday afternoon after being contacted by Elkins. Yandow also said Elkins told him Monday he believed the property is owned by the city based on a survey that was done when the communications tower was put up.
"I believe Russ McConnell thinks that we do not own the property," Yandow said. "We will find out for sure who owns the property and if we find out that we (the city) don't own it, then that will be the end of our involvement in this."
McConnell, the city's public works director, was unavailable for comment Tuesday.
Yandow said that if the city finds the cave is not on city property according to that survey map, the city cannot ask Woodstock to leave.
"I won't tolerate the harassment of anyone. The police in this city are not going to harass anybody, I won't allow it. We need to do business and treat everyone fairly and equitably," the city manager said.
Woodstock describes
visits to the caves
The officers' first visit to the cave occurred after stories in newspapers following Woodstock's appearance in Magistrate Court last week.
Woodstock, a colorful presence in Bisbee, walks the city streets during the day, giving the peace sign to all passers-by. "I pray for peace everyday," Woodstock said.
Police have received numerous complaints about Woodstock from several businesspeople on Tombstone Canyon. He is charged with disorderly conduct for honking a child's bicycle horn on Tombstone Canyon, thereby annoying some local business people.
Woodstock was given a continuance on April 1 to allow him time to find a lawyer to represent him. His next scheduled appearance in the Bisbee Magistrate Court is May 7.
Woodstock said Bisbee Police Sgt. Howard Gardner and Officer Keith Roberts climbed a mountain overlooking Bisbee and entered the cave at 10:30 p.m. Thursday.
During an interview Woodstock said the following occurred:
Lying in the cave asleep in a sleeping bag, he was awakened by Gardner shining a flashlight in his face.
Gardner told Woodstock he was trespassing on city property and gave him two days to leave.
Woodstock told Gardner the cave was on private property and he had permission to stay there.
Woodstock said Gardner looked "confused" when he was told that, but ordered him off the property anyway.
At 2 a.m. Sunday, Woodstock said the same two officers, accompanied by a third, off-duty officer, entered the cave. This time "the officer was nasty," according to Woodstock.
The officer took his handcuffs out and said, "'I told you you had two days to get out of here and you're still here. Now I'm going to take you to jail. You're trespassing."
Then he put his handcuffs away and asked Woodstock "how long is it going to take you to pack?" When Woodstock told him he had a place to go to Monday, Gardner allegedly said, "That's not what I asked you. I asked you how long it was going to take you to pack your ---- and take it down the hill."
Woodstock replied, "I suppose I could be out of here tomorrow."
According to Woodstock, Gardner then replied, "I suppose that if I come back here tomorrow and you're still here I could haul your --- to jail." Then he left.
Woodstock says he
had permission
Woodstock said he was surprised when the police told him it was city property, because Rowe gave him permission to live there. Woodstock was told the owner of the cave was happy he was living there because prior to moving in, other people had been living there and had partied and really messed the cave up.
"When I moved in, there was clothes, trash and kitchen stuff all over the place. I paid someone $40 to clean up their mess and haul it down the mountain," Woodstock said.
On Tuesday, Rowe said, "Yes, I own the cave he is living in. He (Woodstock) called me and told me he was living there. Before he moved in, the property was littered with a lot of trash from previous people who had lived there. He told me he cleaned up the mess.
"I consider there are two ways to give permission," Rowe added. "One I call passive permission. That is when you know someone is living there and don't tell them to leave. The other is to have someone sign a slip of paper. Woodstock has passive permission from me to live there."
Another cave and
possible health issue
There is another cave located about 50 feet from the cave Woodstock was living in on city property that had other people living in it over the weekend, Woodstock said.
Elkins admitted officers did not check the second cave until Monday night, although police incident reports on Tuesday do not show that to have happened.
Gardner gave Woodstock two days to vacate the property. When asked what is the usual time given to someone who is trespassing on city property to vacate, Elkins replied, "Immediately."
Yandow also said, based on the original police report, that "if the cave were found to have health issues, then the Health Department would be called and they would be asked to investigate."
In Gardner's first report on the Thursday visit to Woodstock's cave, he said the area was littered with "debris, belongings and fecal matter."
On a visit to the cave on Tuesday, there wasn't fecal matter or Woodstock's personal belongings in the cave. Inside the cave, carpeting was on the floor and some shelves on the side of the walls. There also were some pieces of art on the walls.
Police Sgt. Taron Maddux said Tuesday that Gardner was "probably acting on prior knowledge of the area based on the time the communications tower was put up. Gardner noticed from previous stories in the newspaper that Woodstock was living in a cave on the mountain and decided to check it out."
Elkins said there had been no citizen complaints regarding Woodstock living in the cave. He said he had no idea Gardner had made the nighttime visits to Woodstock and that Gardner had acted on his own.
"Officers are allowed to use their discretion in making investigations," the police chief said.
HERALD/REVIEW reporter Ann Waters can be reached at 432-2231.
Copyright 2003 Sierra Vista Herald.
Here's a pic of Grandpa Woodstock.
There are more articles around, and i'll try to post more.
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