Marijuana may hike risk of psychosis, research finds... <-- WTF!

[What'sThatSmell]

Marijuana has negative effects.
Cigarettes have negative effects.
Alcohol has negative effects.

[skittles]

Originally Posted by Bliz-NATI

Duh? im just promoting my who gives a fuck attitude. so many things we take everyday are worse.


Hell, any diet drinks... you can develop 1000's of ailments from just Aspertame. Cans heating up past like 80 degrees i think, cuases the aspertame to break down into an even more dangerous compound.

o i know. I wasnt trying to attack you in any way there.. Just, well yea.. everything has some negative effects, no reason to get all worked up over the little ones

[chronictoker]

well, see here's the ugly truth about experiments...

they can be demonstrated in such a way that it appears to favor one way when it should be the opposite...

phillip morris in their studies, when they knew tobacco caused cancer, they just used a really high confidence level in their statistics so it looked like it was relatively harmless...

and their could be confounding factors. For instance marijuana users tend to be certain types of ppl, it's in your genes, some ppl naturally are risk takers and so on...
....and these types of ppl probably are also more likely to develop or have undiagnosed schitzophrenia.

Also it says it increases the risk, 50 to 200 percent so that's a pretty big range, ya know, not very accurate statistics...imo

I am very picky about what statistics I accept as 'the truth' and I leave the rest in my 'maybe pile'...

edit: "The prevalence of schizophrenia is believed to be about five in 1,000 people. But because of the drug’s wide popularity, the researchers estimate that about 800 new cases of psychosis could be prevented by reducing marijuana use."

It says 5/1000 ppl have schizo...and 800 new cases could have been prevented...

what does that mean...800 cases in the UK?...wtf, that is so ambiguous. Either way your risk of developing schizo is pretty low...

[420 stoner 420]

Well it says that the original risk is 0.5% to the average person, and weed increases it by 40%. 0.5*0.4=0.2. 0.5+0.2=possible increase from 0.5% to 0.7%

[IGotTheCottons]

Originally Posted by Alphå

Use of caps and large bold text is intentional, becuase what I have to say is the absolute truth:

NO STUDIES, SURVEYS, OR EXPERIMENTS DONE WITH MARIJUANA ARE SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE. IT IS ILLEGAL, AND USE OF IT FOR EXPERIMENTS IS IMPOSSIBLE. FURTHERMORE, THE ONE CROP THE US GOVERNMENT MAINTAINS FOR ITS FEDERAL MEDICAL MARIJUANA PROGRAM AND 'EXPERIMENTATION' ARE POORLY USED... THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT USE BUD FOR ITS EXPERIMENTS, IT USES STEMS, LEAVES, AND SEEDS. ANY STUDIES , SURVEYS, OR EXPERIMENTS DONE BY THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT BE TRUSTED, AND THE ONLY ACCURATE SCIENTIFIC ENDEAVORS ARE DONE BY PRIVATE OR STATE UNIVERSITIES.

Read it again more carefully:



Normal, mentally stable people with no history of psychosis or history of it in their family are safe.

Please refraind from posting in bolded, huge, all caps text. It's against the rules here, and is hard on the eyes. Thank you. IGTC

I think you're forgetting that the US isn't the only country on this planet capable of doing scientific research. In countries with more relaxed MJ laws, studies are done constantly, and are actually very reliable... So I think you should keep that in mind before trying to inform everyone here that they're wrong...

And just FYI, there have been several studies done since the 80's (through present day) that have ALL showed the SAME conclusion. MJ usaged increases your risk of developing schitzophrenia (if even by a small amount). It occurs mainly in people with develiping minds, or those who are predisposed to developing the illness (in which case it acks more as a trigger), than in people with healthy minds... BUT the risk goes up for <i>everyone</i>, nonetheless.

[qdavid]

[quote=Alphå;1753713]Use of caps and large bold text is intentional, becuase what I have to say is the absolute truth:

NO STUDIES, SURVEYS, OR EXPERIMENTS DONE WITH MARIJUANA ARE SCIENTIFICALLY ACCURATE. IT IS ILLEGAL, AND USE OF IT FOR EXPERIMENTS IS IMPOSSIBLE. FURTHERMORE, THE ONE CROP THE US GOVERNMENT MAINTAINS FOR ITS FEDERAL MEDICAL MARIJUANA PROGRAM AND 'EXPERIMENTATION' ARE POORLY USED... THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT USE BUD FOR ITS EXPERIMENTS, IT USES STEMS, LEAVES, AND SEEDS. ANY STUDIES , SURVEYS, OR EXPERIMENTS DONE BY THE GOVERNMENT CAN NOT BE TRUSTED, AND THE ONLY ACCURATE SCIENTIFIC ENDEAVORS ARE DONE BY PRIVATE OR STATE UNIVERSITIES.

This is even more true in that the head of the program at Mississippi University where they grow government pot has said that the marijuana cigarettes rolled from the pot he grows are rolled by machines in North Carolina and potent pot is too resinous and sticky and messes up their machines, so they use mostly leaves, not buds.

[Liquidtruth]

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

MJ usaged increases your risk of developing schitzophrenia (if even by a small amount).

That is pure and utter bullshit.

Originally Posted by IGotTheCottons

... or those who are predisposed to developing the illness (in which case it acks more as a trigger)

That is all it does. The scientific studies have not shown anything more, sorry to say. So yes, people who are pre-disposed to be schitzo, smoking cannabis will only help that come to the surface. I view that as a good thing, as it will bring the problem to the surface so it can be dealt with. To say it makes you schitzo? There is no evidence to support that in any study I have read. They may make that conclusion, some really want it to be true, but hey, that does not mean much.

[TokinBlue]

On Norml's daily audio stash, they had an interview (have forgotten the name of the doctor by now) but the segment was about how those who were predisposed to develop schitzophrenia who smoked marijuana. The doctor brought up points to saying that smoking marijuana in the younger years actually helped the said person later in life, that they were able to deal with the problems much better (i believe it included other illnesses as well)

....i really wish i could remember more about it

[420 stoner 420]

Originally Posted by Still Smokin

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The researchers said they couldn’t prove that marijuana use itself increases the risk of psychosis, a category of several disorders with schizophrenia being the most commonly known.
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oh boy, it just makes another point that we all are discussing this when this was right there in the first paragraph.

[OneLoveRasta]

Haha my parents magneted that article to my fridge this morning. They even highlighted the key facts.

[Still Smokin]

Originally Posted by OneLoveRasta

Haha my parents magneted that article to my fridge this morning. They even highlighted the key facts.

Go on the NORML website and print out the true facts about marijuana and paste it right over it. They will shit their pants

[Alphå]

Originally Posted by skittles

so the studies you agree with are inaccurate too then? Do you know this for a fact or did you hear it from other people who wont belive theres anything wring with it? proof?

I believe results from experiments that get published in peer-reviewed journals.

NIDA, the DEA, and pretty much any US Gov't drug related organization are headed by people who are so brainwashed themselves, they continue the cycle of brainwashing the next generation (either that, or they just dont care about anything except their salary)

I know I'm talking a lot about the US, but right now our gov't is so influential (although thankfully it has discredited itsself over the past century of douchbaggery) in the world. The US is the reason why every other country has anti-MJ laws (other then countries where its in their culture not to endulge in intoxicants)

[iryad]

Originally Posted by 420 stoner 420

Well it says that the original risk is 0.5% to the average person, and weed increases it by 40%. 0.5*0.4=0.2. 0.5+0.2=possible increase from 0.5% to 0.7%

haha that's great

[skittles]

Originally Posted by Alphå

I believe results from experiments that get published in peer-reviewed journals.

NIDA, the DEA, and pretty much any US Gov't drug related organization are headed by people who are so brainwashed themselves, they continue the cycle of brainwashing the next generation (either that, or they just dont care about anything except their salary)

I know I'm talking a lot about the US, but right now our gov't is so influential (although thankfully it has discredited itsself over the past century of douchbaggery) in the world. The US is the reason why every other country has anti-MJ laws (other then countries where its in their culture not to endulge in intoxicants)

i know government most research is bullshit, but you cant dismiss all of it. They draw the same results as everyone else but skew them to their liking.. like 420 stoner already pointed out. although a small one, This is still an increase and you have way of knowing you genes or a complete history of your familys mental health, therefor you must assume this risk applies to you.

its rare, but i assure you cannabis induced pyschosis exists

[qdavid]

Originally Posted by Still Smokin

Go on the NORML website and print out the true facts about marijuana and paste it right over it. They will shit their pants

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