I have a natural dislike of straight-edged people

[Rasta_Man]

And by comparing alcoholics to very frequent marijuana use, i meant the fact that they both impair there judgment, frequently,

Uh no. I smoke cannabis on a regular basis and I can safely say that it never has impaired my judgment. I can think just as clearly when I'm high as I can when I'm sober. My perceptions are simply altered, to my satisfaction.

and thats just not a very smart thing to do...

To use cannabis regularly? How? As long as you're a responsible, considerate user, I don't see any erroneous action.

The problem comes when people use marijuana as a cop-out for acting like a moron.

Frank Zappa said it the best:

"A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole."
-- Frank Zappa

(I was not comparing alchoholism to marijuana use, rather how chronic use of any drug is BAD)

Again, I disagree. Irresponsible drug use (of any drug) is bad. People can responsibly use any drug as long as they are properly informed, take responsibility for their actions, and as practice it's use in a safe manner.

My regular cannabis use can be describe using all of those.

Check mate.

[chemage]

I'm actually not sure what I can't stand more. The ignorant straight-edged goody-boys or the idiotic young stoners everyone see's around today.

I have a very small group of friends who live under conditions that requires some level of intelligence that I feel most people don't have, or at least not anymore.

I suppose weed had a different respect just some 30 years ago, when it came to dealing, smoking, & living with weed surrounding your everyday life.

My cousin speaks of hundreds of kids in his high school that are considered the "stoners".. the people who ditch school, fail out, and sooner or later get sent to a rehab or reform school.

People just enjoy being stupid now a' days.. in my opinion.

[DCrist721]

Originally Posted by Rasta_Man

I've discussed this to lengths before. Straight edge people are just ignorant and naive. Try to reason with them, you'll do them a big favor.

I used to be straight edge in my early teenage years. If it wasn't for one wicked stoner-girl, who knows where I'd be today.

Same story. Started me out with little stuff, cigs, whip-its, drinking in school. Then finally got me to toke. I realized drugs weren't bad. I've done alot of thinking about life in general since then, and I believe weed has really helped me out. If I was using drugs responsibly, even if some of them cut a few years off my life, its worth it. I get bored really easily, and without being able to alter my perception of things, I would drive myself insane from the monotony, perhaps even to the point of suicide. My current life is so boring and predictable that my life would seem to serve only as a bridge to older age, with no guarantee of that changing. Unfortunately in today's society, it's difficult to not conform to the regular schedual of the nation of zombies. Maybe some of us should just move out to an island and become self-sufficient and lead interesting, dynamic, lives. High five for wicked stoner-girls opening the gateway to drugs and new thinking.

[iShotTupac123]

Yeah I noticed the same thing about myself. When I was taking mandatory legal seminars with a room full of convicted felons I felt comfortable as fuck, mingled a little and everything.

When I went to puppy class with my bulldog I just felt completely uncomfortable. This business guy came with his family he was making me so mad, ego emissions everywhere.

[TheHempress]

This is why I don't take my son to play-dates. I don't really have much in common with other moms around here, and the stoner moms that I know...I don't like them (except for my neighbor, but her kids are almost as old as I am). I always feel uncomfortable around people that don't smoke.

[Predator1]

Doesnt bother me at all until people start shoving their views down my throat. Like I dont go around telling everyone OMG I WAS SO BAKED LAST NIGHT (Well, except for a few choice people who I talk to about that sort of thing), and I dont expect them to get all anti-everything on me. Live and let live.

When straight-edge was created by Minor Threat, they even said in an interview they didnt want it to become a subculture...And thats exactly whats happened. It's less of a choice and more of a cult these days.

[Fractal]

and they naturaly dislike you

[Anti-Hero]

I am very influenced by straight-edge hardcore. Some of my favorite bands are (Minor Threat, Slapshot, 7 seconds, SSDecontrol, etc). But I hate straight-edge as a concept, and as a general rule I don't like straight-edge people. Minor Threat always seemed like cool guys, as does several old edge bands. SSD had a shitty following, violent assholes that would kick your ass for drinking. Gorilla Biscuits were always cool about it, but the guys themselves are... dorks. I saw Murphy's Law, Comeback Kid (gay), and Gorilla Biscuits play in Denver. Great show, sans Comeback Kid. Murphy's Law is a big NYC stoner/drunk hardcore band, and they played first. Drunk on stage, songs about buds and PBR (although I have better taste in beer). Some of the edgers there crossed their arms and looked angry.

Straight Edgers are usually pussies. Shit, even the gangster one's with ripping muscles will gang up on you. Most of the time, they don't do shit. A couple guys during the end of Comeback Kid passed a joint to me. I was new to Colorado at the time, and came from Texas, where I was used to smoking the schwagg all the time. Not only that, but this was the first time I smoked in a couple months. It was spliffed, and as a smoker I hit that shit like a mother. I took like two hits, two of the biggest hits I've ever taken. I was blown from there on, I had never smoked dank like that before. I could swear that some edge kids were kicking my legs in the pit (I was getting hit right in the back of the knee consistently, but I didn't notice that it was happening too much til after I left). The dehydration, the lights, the loud music, the chaos-- it just enhanced the high. People tried to talk to me and I couldn't understand a damn thing they were saying, hence I didn't notice the kicks. It was funny though, I was probably the second biggest guy there. This other guy was even bigger, like 6'5" 300-some pounds. With a beard and a plaid shirt, total badass if it wasn't for the nerdy way he pulled it off.

Point is, I was getting kicked in a weak spot and I didn't notice. Dumbasses.

Gorilla Biscuits was a good show, but it didn't seem like hardcore. Hardcore-- angry, fast. Gorilla Biscuits-- happy, fast. I don't like that positive shit, I'm in to hardcore because I'm pissed. Still like GB overall though.

I don't really like being around edgers either. I don't like chillin with them. They're awkward and inexperienced, not to mention dogmatic about the shit, even if they aren't pushy. It brings me back to highschool, I wanna call them a nerd or something. They seem that way, honestly. Completely ignorant of what's going on around them.

After the show, I get out. The instance I leave my high starts wearing off. The fresh air really woke me up, big change from the bright lights and smell of sweat. As I walk to the car, behind a group of apparent edgers, I see two black guys in an alley trying to sell some weed. He asks the edgers, and they keep walking awkwardly and one says that they're edge. The two guys just fucking bust out laughing, it was fucking hilarious. I didn't have money, tho