I have a natural dislike of straight-edged people

[mrtwomuchskill]

Originally Posted by LegitBaller

a secret stoner will never be a TRUE STONER. remember that playa.

I never said I pull it off i constantly get offered drugs but thats a good thing

[whitewarrior]

They do what they do, I do what I do.

*I don't mold myself when I'm around a certain group, I'm always the same. If they disagree with whatever I believe in, much love to them, it's not hurting me. I think its moreso a mutual respect factor than anything else.

[cheebaa]

Originally Posted by Rasta_Man

I used to be straight edge in my early teenage years. If it wasn't for one wicked stoner-girl, who knows where I'd be today.

Same story here- never drank until I was 17/18 (I always thought it was a waste of time) My g/f at the time showed me how it could be fun in moderation ( I then took it past moderation and this probably brought out the next issue). I never smoked until I was 18/19 (well I tried when I was 16 but I didn't like it for some reason then). So I', 18/19 now, I was depressed, I tried medicine to no avail. My g/f at the time suggested smoking some pot- I gave it a try and for days I felt better.

Ever since marijuana has been a great thing for me.

Straightedgers are uneducated on the medicinal purposes certain drugs can have.

[Rasta_Man]

Originally Posted by cheebaa

Same story here- never drank until I was 17/18 (I always thought it was a waste of time) My g/f at the time showed me how it could be fun in moderation ( I then took it past moderation and this probably brought out the next issue). I never smoked until I was 18/19 (well I tried when I was 16 but I didn't like it for some reason then). So I', 18/19 now, I was depressed, I tried medicine to no avail. My g/f at the time suggested smoking some pot- I gave it a try and for days I felt better.

Ever since marijuana has been a great thing for me.

Straightedgers are uneducated on the medicinal purposes certain drugs can have.

Wow cheebs, good story. My is almost identical.

I was a little younger, 14, and also struggled with depression. My parents had split up only a few months before, I was emotionally totally unstable. Angry, and hateful. I'd get in fist fights alot and suspended from school more than a few times.

I then went to this summer camp, and had a good time. It was an escape to me.

I became friends with this girl named Caitlin, who was awesome (and in retrospect a total stoner, but I was naive then). I had been experimenting with the punk rock thing and minor threat was one of my favorite bands. I got really "into" the Straight Edge thing.

We started hanging out for awhile and it becomes pretty obvious pretty quickly that she smoked pot. She was her wicked self and respected my opinions, and I returned the kindness, I went out on a limb and put that behind me.

Again, this was a really unstable time in my life, and I was looking for change. One day, I just asked her if she'd smoke me up. She was surprised but obliged me. She literally taught me how to smoke (how to inhale properly, how to munch out, how to kick back and watch lame movies and have a good time).

I've been radically different ever since that day. It opened up different ways of thinking to me, allowed me to explore past my irrational Id which had seemingly taken control of my life and allowed me to explore my Ego.

Before this, I had viewed cannabis ignorantly, as it was portrayed in the media as a drug that'll make you stupid and apathetic. I was young, ignorant and naive.

Putting details aside, I really honestly believe that experience and that cannabis saved my life.

I don't know where I would have ended up if I had continued on the path I was going.



My one regret is that me and her aren't close any more. We drifted apart. I know how to contact her, she knows how to contact me. Maybe one of these days.

[Visine!]

Hmm... now that i think about it, I'm pretty straight-edged myself... (dont hit me!)
Do i think that MJ is many times harmful, yes, but then again, pretty much ALL drugs have the potential to be bad for you (speaking medically) . And i DO think drinking = waste of time, MJ = waste of time. But how many times have i wasted time watching tv? I personally don't like drugs and i admittedly would judge a person based on the fact that they smoke and would likely think less of them. But hey, thats just me, yell at me if you like.

EDIT: oh and I'm not denying that marijuana can't be good for you, and i probably going to regret posting this...

[metallica2k1]

Originally Posted by Visine!

Hmm... now that i think about it, I'm pretty straight-edged myself... (dont hit me!)
Do i think that MJ is many times harmful, yes, but then again, pretty much ALL drugs have the potential to be bad for you (speaking medically) . And i DO think drinking = waste of time, MJ = waste of time. But how many times have i wasted time watching tv? I personally don't like drugs and i admittedly would judge a person based on the fact that they smoke and would likely think less of them. But hey, thats just me, yell at me if you like.

EDIT: oh and I'm not denying that marijuana can't be good for you, and i probably going to regret posting this...

If you think less of people who smoke, then why are you here?

[Visine!]

Originally Posted by metallica2k1

If you think less of people who smoke, then why are you here?

Because GC is entertaining and a wealth of information, and i said i likely would and probably just for a first impression, hell, i know a few people that i have great respect for that have smoked in the past. But, in my mind, a person who smokes almost everyday or many times a day everyday is about equivalent to an alcoholic...

[metallica2k1]

Originally Posted by Visine!

Because GC is entertaining and a wealth of information, and i said i likely would and probably just for a first impression, hell, i know a few people that i have great respect for that have smoked in the past. But, in my mind, a person who smokes almost everyday or many times a day everyday is about equivalent to an alcoholic...

Ah I get what you're saying now I guess. Even though I don't agree with your opinion, that's fine of you to have it.

There are certain things I disagree with that many on this forum condone (driving high being the main one), but I just choose to keep my opinions to myself. Prepare for flaming.

[SmoketillIchoke]

so your against drugs and you look down on people who smoke and yet u join a site ALL about marijuana...... hence grasscity

[metallica2k1]

Originally Posted by SmoketillIchoke

so your against drugs and you look down on people who smoke and yet u join a site ALL about marijuana...... hence grasscity

He already kinda addressed that point man.

[Perpetual Burn]

Originally Posted by Visine!

Because GC is entertaining and a wealth of information, and i said i likely would and probably just for a first impression, hell, i know a few people that i have great respect for that have smoked in the past. But, in my mind, a person who smokes almost everyday or many times a day everyday is about equivalent to an alcoholic...

Weird how us "lesser human beings" are entertaining, eh?

It's too bad all the information on this site is still lost on you. Comparing marijuana use to alcoholism is like comparing apples to orangutans. Please don't disrespect the herb like that.

Have you smoked marijuana? If you haven't, then you truly have no idea wether or not you like it and most definitely shouldn't be talking about the morality of it's usage. I'm guessing you haven't since you compare it to alcohol and look down on people for smoking... I just can't imagine anybody with half a brain to get high and then think anybody else to be lesser of a person for doing the same thing.


Anyway, on topic, I don't have a problem with someone being straight-edge as long as they don't try to push that crap on me. I do kind of push marijuana on others... I just question why they don't smoke and try to clear up any misconceptions, but if they "just don't want to" you gotta let 'em live their "more boring than need be lives."

[Visine!]

Originally Posted by Perpetual Burn

Weird how us "lesser human beings" are entertaining, eh?

It's too bad all the information on this site is still lost on you. Comparing marijuana use to alcoholism is like comparing apples to orangutans. Please don't disrespect the herb like that.

Have you smoked marijuana? If you haven't, then you truly have no idea wether or not you like it and most definitely shouldn't be talking about the morality of it's usage. I'm guessing you haven't since you compare it to alcohol and look down on people for smoking... I just can't imagine anybody with half a brain to get high and then think anybody else to be lesser of a person for doing the same thing.


Anyway, on topic, I don't have a problem with someone being straight-edge as long as they don't try to push that crap on me. I do kind of push marijuana on others... I just question why they don't smoke and try to clear up any misconceptions, but if they "just don't want to" you gotta let 'em live their "more boring than need be lives."

Yes... I have smoke marijuana... a number of times. And i never said anything about lesser human beings or anyone being lesser of a person for smoking. When i said i think less of them, i first of all don't mean someone that says, "yea ive smoked pot before" rather I'm talking about the pot heads, and by i think less of them i mean i don't approve of them, im not acting like im all high and mighty. I'm entitled to my OWN opinions, and if you don't like them then thats NOT MY PROBLEM

And by comparing alcoholics to very frequent marijuana use, i meant the fact that they both impair there judgment, frequently, and thats just not a very smart thing to do...(I was not comparing alchoholism to marijuana use, rather how chronic use of any drug is BAD)

[laxphenom]

Originally Posted by Perpetual Burn

Weird how us "lesser human beings" are entertaining, eh?

It's too bad all the information on this site is still lost on you. Comparing marijuana use to alcoholism is like comparing apples to orangutans. Please don't disrespect the herb like that.

Have you smoked marijuana? If you haven't, then you truly have no idea wether or not you like it and most definitely shouldn't be talking about the morality of it's usage. I'm guessing you haven't since you compare it to alcohol and look down on people for smoking... I just can't imagine anybody with half a brain to get high and then think anybody else to be lesser of a person for doing the same thing.


Anyway, on topic, I don't have a problem with someone being straight-edge as long as they don't try to push that crap on me. I do kind of push marijuana on others... I just question why they don't smoke and try to clear up any misconceptions, but if they "just don't want to" you gotta let 'em live their "more boring than need be lives."

Actually, there can be some good cases comparing pot to alcohol....many a pothead will spend a great deal of money on weed the same way an alcoholic will on booze (though you dont see many people end up on the street for weed ), and alcoholics drink to maintain their drunk or their distance from reality, meanwhile people also smoke repeatedly to maintain their high and sense of good feeling. so yeah...just my opinion but i see some parallels, and they only work for heavy marijuana use, but to me they're still there. let the flaming begin

[Perpetual Burn]

Originally Posted by Visine!

Yes... I have smoke marijuana... a number of times. And i never said anything about lesser human beings or anyone being lesser of a person for smoking. When i said i think less of them, i first of all don't mean someone that says, "yea ive smoked pot before" rather I'm talking about the pot heads, and by i think less of them i mean i don't approve of them, im not acting like im all high and mighty. I'm entitled to my OWN opinions, and if you don't like them then thats NOT MY PROBLEM

And by comparing alcoholics to very frequent marijuana use, i meant the fact that they both impair there judgment, frequently, and thats just not a very smart thing to do...(I was not comparing alchoholism to marijuana use, rather how chronic use of any drug is BAD)

Well, if you think less of them, then you think less of them as a human being... not less of them as a donkey. Obviously it is your problem since you're getting so upset about it.

Well, maybe marijuana has a judgement impairing affect on you and is probably not for you if it does, but it has never done anything of the sort to me (minus a little paranoia,) and I don't make any decisions or do anything that I would not do sober. I just enjoy whatever I'm doing more and pick up on more things that I might not have noticed sober. Alcohol, on the other hand does impair judgemement. I once, while drunk, told a friend of mine she should break up with her boyfriend and go out with me. Her boyfriend was one of my best friends at the time and, sober, the thought would have never crossed my mind. Worst part was I didn't even like her like that and the second worse part was I didn't even remember saying that until the enxt day my friend asked me about it... so I chalked it up to a joke and being drunk. That is a dangerous drug. And smoking marijuana "a number of times" still doesn't give you any knowledge about the affects of chronic use.

Maybe you need to build up a little tolerance towards weed so you don't get so messed up where you can't think straight. But trying to lecture people who have way more experience with the drug and more than likely know more about it than you do is kind of... pointless.

Originally Posted by laxphenom

Actually, there can be some good cases comparing pot to alcohol....many a pothead will spend a great deal of money on weed the same way an alcoholic will on booze (though you dont see many people end up on the street for weed ), and alcoholics drink to maintain their drunk or their distance from reality, meanwhile people also smoke repeatedly to maintain their high and sense of good feeling. so yeah...just my opinion but i see some parallels, and they only work for heavy marijuana use, but to me they're still there. let the flaming begin

Well, I was talking about the affects of each on the user's judgment making abilities... I'm sure I could compare apples to orangutans if I tried hard enough.

[laxphenom]

haha of course you could! my bad