Age Limit

[Palmer Eldritch]

i think anyone who thinks that someone under 18 can be as mature as someone older than that age must certainly be a minor themselves or in denial. Those underaged are way too confident in their views but they do not have enough perspective of the world to even know what they are contemplating. It may not feel like it, but its the truth. I felt the same way at 15.

I've recently enrolled into another university where my classmates are all four or five years my junior, and the type of philosophy that is expressed is just inane. It drives me nuts. They give equal weight to all arguments without even thinking about biases, nor can they think of hypothetical situations to test arguments without the direction from a professor. Even at 18, they are just not ready to really understand how things work and what you can or cannot trust yourself with. At 23, I'm sure that my own perspective is narrow in the grand scheme of life, but it is infinitely more introspective and thoughtful than those younger than me. That kind of intellectual self doubt is just not usually seen in minors.

age requirements are necessary so that experience can be gained, averting mistakes that would be easily walked around later on in life.

[Livingalife]

Turning 19 and about to graduate, my life has changed alot. Alot lot more responsibility for everything. Part time work. Finally realized whats its like to be a somewhat adult I guess, not 21 yet but getting their everyday. Basically growing up I realized life's a bitch! If we dismiss the age limit alot more maturity will come on the forums and alot more people fighting like "Fuck you man you don't know shit" and such like has been on the forums the past couple days and really ticked me off. This forum also is completely different from many other forums on the web and has no abusive arguments such as swearing at each other which is good and everyone helps each other out here or there. Also if there wasn't a age limit, younger kids who are 14 and 16 they'd start posting stupid questions like "whats a good cigarette", "is pot bad for you", "my mommy won't let me go anywhere tonight" and so on. It gets rather annoying than comical. Especially for us who are older and finally matured and actually have exceeded puberty. Idk thats just my view on the whole ordeal.

[briangumble]

Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch

i think anyone who thinks that someone under 18 can be as mature as someone older than that age must certainly be a minor themselves or in denial. Those underaged are way too confident in their views but they do not have enough perspective of the world to even know what they are contemplating. It may not feel like it, but its the truth. I felt the same way at 15.

I've recently enrolled into another university where my classmates are all four or five years my junior, and the type of philosophy that is expressed is just inane. It drives me nuts. They give equal weight to all arguments without even thinking about biases, nor can they think of hypothetical situations to test arguments without the direction from a professor. Even at 18, they are just not ready to really understand how things work and what you can or cannot trust yourself with. At 23, I'm sure that my own perspective is narrow in the grand scheme of life, but it is infinitely more introspective and thoughtful than those younger than me. That kind of intellectual self doubt is just not usually seen in minors.
age requirements are necessary so that experience can be gained, averting mistakes that would be easily walked around later on in life.

I think anyone who thinks all minors are less mature than anyone over 18 is just ignorant. You can't generalize people like that. I do believe that the older you get the more mature you get, but that doesn't mean everyone under 18 is less mature than everyone over 18. That type of logic is stupid.

[J_Bone]

i find the age limit totally bogus 12,13, and 14 year olds are looking for help they are confused and have no one to talk to. what's a better place for young kids to ask people about weed? it is confidential and they can get information that they need

[Palmer Eldritch]

briangumble, you missed the point. knowledge is gathered and passed through general rules (deal with it) and maturity is gathered by experience. people who are older inherently have more potential to be mature in their decision making because they've experienced more. Therefore anyone under anyone under a set arbitrary age will be less mature in general than those who are older.

you may be confusing immaturity with stupidity, which no age group can claim to have a monopoly in. The logic i presented is sound. policy must be made by majority, its not universally fair, but it is beneficial overall.

[briangumble]

Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch

briangumble, you missed the point. knowledge is gathered and passed through general rules (deal with it) and maturity is gathered by experience. people who are older inherently have more potential to be mature in their decision making because they've experienced more. Therefore anyone under anyone under a set arbitrary age will be less mature in general than those who are older.

you may be confusing immaturity with stupidity, which no age group can claim to have a monopoly in. The logic i presented is sound. policy must be made by majority, its not universally fair, but it is beneficial overall.

I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you about the part that maturity is gathered by experience, but you can't determine how mature someone is based on there age. Not everyone of the same age group is gonna be as mature as one another. I'm specifically talking about people ages 15+. I mean obviously someone that is 10 is gonna be less mature than somone that is 20. But people start to become mature at around age 15, and there are a lot of people that are 15-18 that are more mature than people over 18. It would be better if age limits were reduced to 16. And I'm talking about all age limits, not just for this site.

[Floydian]

Well, first and foremost, I totally understand SJ's reasons for the age limit.

Either way, yeah, I don't mind the limit. It's not that I'm against 18- peeps, but I suppose any of them who really want to be here can do so if they just watch themselves. While against the rules, I still respect that. And, with the age limit, the ones who are blatantly underage, can promptly be banned.

[Tbika]

Personally, I think as long as you act mature and dont act like an asshole to others on the site, it shouldn't matter what your age is. However, as cottons already pointed out, there are legal issues that go along with the rule, so I'm absolutly fine with that.

[Floydian]

Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch

i think anyone who thinks that someone under 18 can be as mature as someone older than that age must certainly be a minor themselves or in denial. Those underaged are way too confident in their views but they do not have enough perspective of the world to even know what they are contemplating. It may not feel like it, but its the truth. I felt the same way at 15.

15? Maybe. 16 would be getting touchy.

I really just have to disagree with you... I believe that as long as I see and know fully grown adults, some 50+ who still act like on a whole and have the general demeanor of a 13 year old, that there can be 15 year olds who are easily more mature than the average 18 year old.

It has MUCH less to do with just the pure fact of your age, than it does with how you were raised. True, nothing beats actually going through things and experiencing them, but if you were raised in the relevant way, you can be very mature at a young age, and still be conscious of the areas in which you lack experience, and be truely humble about them.

That's what I believe, based on how I was raised and my own experience of growing up. And the whole "must be a minor themselves" thing almost seems to make it a trap, to me... almost like denouncing a pot smokers views, just because they may be high.

[thegreenfairy]

i'd say that the issue is prob legal - but from a different standpoint - parents

an under 18 year olds parents could probably sue the city if everybody wasn't required to be over 18.

so in the interests of the city not getting sued i say the age limit is great. that is probably why it is enforced.

[enom]

im content with 18 age limit. well mainly cause im 18 haha, now if i was 17 it be pissed

[Venomous Puffer]

lol without the age restrictions we wouldn't be able to enjoy the first post of a stupid new member who hasn't read the rules and goes "Hez Im JOhn, And Im 13, AND I THINK W33D IS L33T:hello : Anyone Who Dusznt Lik3 w3ed Iz a Bitch + We Shuld Killz Them"


haha funny shit

[ReformMaryJaneLaws]

Originally Posted by Perpetual Burn

Yeah, but what I don't get is why there are legal reasons. I mean, without the recreational users on this site, they go outta business in a week.... But based on the letter of the law, I don't see how it could truly mater.

First of all. the City is based out of the Netherlands and Superjoint is well aware of his legal responsibilities when it comes to the forums. Grasscity is a business first and he has to protect his business.

Out of business in a week??? Not at all. Only a very small percentage of the sales from the Shop come from the members of the City. So that statement has no accuracy at all.


So, basically, this site is owned by Superjoint. He does NOT have to provide the City for us but he does and it's paid for out of his pocket. No matter what anyone says, when everyone registers to become a member here, they agree that they are 18.

There's really no reason for this thread to continue.