Cloned Meat

[cheebaa]

Hey City,

I searched, didn't find any mention of this.

What I find fucked up for all you meat eaters is you will not even know if the meat you are eating is coming from clones or naturally reproduced livestock.

And people remember this is the goverment which has fed us numerous lies regaurding our health. We have never truely been protected by them. Lead paint, asbestos, nicotine- I'm sure there are countless more. They were all "safe" at one point.



http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/12/28....ap/index.html

Story Highlights

• Final approval of cloned animals for food is months away
• FDA: Cloned food safe; doesn't need special labeling
• Many consumers are uncomfortable with the idea of cloning
• FDA: Cloned animals "virtually indistinguishable" from normal livestock

[bloodshot eyes]

So who cares its still an animal and its still meat and there isnt any different chemicals in the bodys of the cloned animals than there is in a normal animal of the same species. It tastes the same so who cares. the vegtables you eat are probably sprayed with pesticides and shit and some is infected with ecoli. but i dont think theres anything wrong with people that eat meat or people that eat just vegtables. everything has its risks.

[cheebaa]

No man, more and more of my food is organic.

The fact is cloned animals are not healthy, but they are cheaper for the farmer. Most cloned animals have a lot of internal issues (I believe the organs are typically half the size or something defective like that). And also I believe the immune systems are weaker on these animals- is this what we need with MCD and the Bird Flu?


Not to mention as it stands now there are just 4 companies that controll 83% of the cattle industry- there is already very little localized farming with cattle as a result. Now that cloning is approved the local farms-who typically stick to more organic farming practices-may struggle to compete with prices.

And farming is something that could help solve a lot of poverty and welfare issues in this country- cause although it's not easy work, if there were more local farms more people could support themselves as farmhands rather than goverment assistance.

[bloodshot eyes]

I dont let diseases and shit like that bother me really. Like west nile virus, mad cow disease, bird flu, sarrs. Fuck all that shit yeah its around but i think the government and the news hypes it up a lot to make it seem like a big deal and what not but i dont let shit like that bother me. But like the ecoli thing yeah i vear away from foods they say are contaminated but thats about it. And like i said not everything is safe theres gunna be risks no matter what you eat, and i doubt that if the meat was really bad for you they wouldnt be selling it.

[own3d421]

Seriously who gives a shit? i dont wanna be paranoid about on more fucking thing in this world, thank you very much.

And about what bloodshot said, these deseases may be deadly, but the media wants to blow that shit way out of proportion, giving these estimates when the disease is gonna reach the US.

If you ask me this country is way to fucking paranoid.
Everyone needs to sit down to a nice joint.

[cheebaa]

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<SUP>http://www.sustainabletable.org/issues/cloning/</SUP>


Cloning is a scientific process that allows scientists to copy the genetic traits of a plant or animal and create one or more living replicas. In 1996, Sottish scientists successfully cloned the first mammal ever - a sheep, which they named “Dolly.” <SUP>i</SUP> Ever since the announcement of this scientific event, cloning has been a highly controversial subject.


<SUP>The debate centers around two primary issues: concern about the moral implications of cloning animals and humans, and the unknown health consequences of eating foods made from the offspring of cloned animals. This page is intended to focus primarily on the second issue, and also to explain current knowledge surrounding the use of cloned animals in the agriculture industry. </SUP>
<SUP>How does cloning work?</SUP>

<SUP>Scientists clone animals by removing the nucleus from an animal egg, and replacing it with the nucleus from a body cell of another animal. This way, the egg develops into an animal that has identical genetic traits as the animal whose cell nucleus was taken.ii </SUP>
<SUP>Designer Cows?

Over the past decade, mice, mules, horses, deer, oxen, dogs and cats have all been cloned. Notably, cows have been cloned, which opens up potential for this technology to be used in industrial beef and dairy production. </SUP>
<SUP>Scientists expect that in the future cloning technology will be commonly practiced for replicating breeding animals. Because cloning is a very expensive process, the clones will not be slaughtered for meat or milked, but instead will produce offspring to be used for food production.iii This would allow the beef and dairy industries to take advantage of the genetic traits of prized cows and bulls without being limited by the animals’ natural lifespan. </SUP>

<SUP>Regulation and Consumer Preferences

Unfortunately, few regulations exist to protect consumers, the environment, or farm animals from the potential risks from cloned food. In 2003, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) enacted a voluntary ban on the use of cloned animals in any phase of food production.iv The FDA has not yet made any determination about the safety of food from cloned animals, and likewise has neither banned nor approved it. As of late 2006, however, the administration was indicating that approval was likely.v </SUP>
<SUP>If the FDA does choose to approve the use of this technology in food production, there is likely to be a mixed response from the food industry, where some are excited about the potential economic benefits that will come with cloning and others fear that consumers will be turned off by cloned foods.vi In a 2005 poll, 63 percent of consumers said that they would not buy food from cloned animals, even if the FDA deemed it safe. To make matters even more complicated, as of 2003, the FDA was unable to say for certain whether or not any food from clones had already entered the market, vii and some dairy farmers are already known to have cloned their prized Holsteins.viii </SUP>

<SUP>Health Concerns

Despite claims that food from clones is safe, many believe that there has not yet been an adequate amount of research conducted to prove that this is true.ix Most assertions of this technology’s safety are based on a 2005 study on milk taken from just four cows and beef from only two cattle.x </SUP>
<SUP>What is clear is that many scientists believe cloning produces animals that are more likely to become sick than animals that are born naturally. Dolly the sheep, for example, developed premature arthritis and lung disease that led her creators to euthanize her after just six years—roughly half the lifespan of a normal sheep.xi </SUP>
<SUP>As of 2001, 95 percent of all cloning experiments ended in “disaster,” and there were “serious problems” with all five species of mammals that had been cloned at that point.xii Researchers involved in cloning have noted severe physical deformities that have occurred in cloned animals, including oversized navels, oddly-shaped heads (cows that have heads shaped like those of bulldogs), and malformed arteries.xiii Cloned animals tend to have more problems during childbirth, resulting in higher rates of death among mothers and children during birthing, xiv and they have also tended to exhibit disorders such as blocked intestines, immune deficiencies and diabetes.xv </SUP>
<SUP>The developmental and genetic abnormalities that tend to characterize cloned animals raise concerns about the use of cloning technology in food production. Dolly’s creator, Ian Wilmut, has stated that small imbalances in a clone’s protein, hormone, or fat levels could affect the safety and quality of its milk or meat.xvi </SUP>

<SUP>An Ethical Question

Some believe that the cloning of animals is a violation of animal welfare, as it puts both the sick and deformed clones and their surrogate parents through unneeded suffering.xvii Other people argue that all cloning is ethically wrong. On the other hand, many see these new technologies as offering legitimate hope for curing disease.</SUP>
<SUP>For example, scientists in Colorado have developed a genetically engineered line of dopamine-producing cells that could one day be used to treat Parkinson's disease.xviii Likewise, other researchers have worked to harvest groups of disease-fighting human proteins — called "immunoglobulins" — in cows, which can be used to treat ear infections, tetanus and rabies.xix </SUP>
<SUP>Such medically-motivated experiments prompt complex questions. Yet the rationale for bringing cloned food to the marketplace is commercial, not heath-related. If the beef and dairy industries choose to take advantage of these technologies, they may achieve great financial gain, while consumers’ health will be put at risk. </SUP>

<SUP>What You Can Do

The use of cloning technology in livestock production is not illegal. Therefore, there is a chance that there are already beef and dairy products on the market that came from the offspring of cloned cattle. If you want to be absolutely sure that you and your family are not eating meat and dairy from cloned animals, purchase your food from small, local farms run by farmers you trust. </SUP>
<SUP>You can find local beef and dairy farms in the </SUP><SUP>Eat Well Guide</SUP><SUP>, or by visiting a </SUP><SUP>farmers market</SUP><SUP> in your area. </SUP>
<SUP>Did You Know?</SUP>

• <LI class=listorange><SUP>It costs about $20,000 to clone a cow.xx </SUP><LI class=listorange><SUP>In a 2002 Gallup Poll, 66% of Americans said that they felt cloning animals is “morally wrong.” xxi </SUP>
• <SUP>Scientists have managed to clone 15 kinds of mammals to date, none of which have been primates.xxii </SUP>

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[bloodshot eyes]

I agree with you own3d people are way to paranoid and worry about shit way to much.

[Xero77x]

Like how Marijuana will ruin their community?