Transition To Salvia

[divinenow]

I've been using weed for the past two years, and besides tobacco, alcohol, and a crazy run-in with Seroquel (mixed with weed), I really haven't had much experience with other drugs. So lately, I've had a strong interest in other psychedelic drugs esp. the legal ones. I found a good source online and I ordered 2 grams of Salvia Divinorum; one strawberry 10x extract and one Fly-Agaric Salvia extract 10x mix. I don't know what to think of the substance, sure I'd read many erowid reports yet I had never really achieved a 'mind-blowing' trip with intense visuals and the like. Finally, after a week of waiting, the package came in, and I sat down in my incense-filled room and set some tunes to play in the background. I block up the bottom of my bong bowl with two small weed buds (I lost my screens) and get a small amount of Salvia extract (Fly Agaric mix) into the remaining space of the bowl (well, not quite close to 'packed'). I take a deep hit and it burns almost too fine. My lungs really aren't the strongest when it comes to smoke, so I get up to get a drink of water. At first the effects are just a mild buzz as I move around. I underestimate it and loosen up, and when I get back into my room I add two more small cannabis parts to the bottom of the bowl and add a decent bit more Salvia extract, this time packing the bowl quite well (yet still not full). I take another strong hit, and then I knew I was in for it.

As soon as I breathed out from taking the hit the world seemed to 'ripple' casting off these very strange dream-like vibes. I took a shotgun and ended up in a coughing fit. I stand up casually, and then am hit by a 'huge wave of Salvia'. Before I know it I'm on my knees and in fairy land. The trip is not visual for me this time, although I am so screwed mentally that it doesn't even matter (what I can't see with my eyes I make up for with my thoughts). This could be because of my small dosage and my not being prepared for how fine the extract was (well, my lungs weren't prepared at least, so I did not take the best hits). Anyways, as I sit there on my knees alongside my bed, I finish up the last two shotguns and set the bong aside, not even bothering finishing up the leftover material. In my head I imagine myself to be in a world reminiscent to some 'Willy Wonka adventure'. Somehow I relate my bed to a 'cartoon train factory' and I imagine my wooden floor and the surrounding shelves to be part of some 'forest grove'. I look up at my computer and give in to the visual effects of my music program before losing interest. Yet there was quite a problem in my timing. You see, I had quite a bit of work left to do for the day, and although it was only 7 P.M. and the effects were generally shortlasting, I did not feel that way. I spend the next good 20 minutes panicking and running around my room and the kitchen with intense fright. I jump on to the bed and roll around, first the sheets are suffocating me, next my shirt is burning my back, then my pants too tight and uncomfortable. I don't know what is with me at the time but I feel a strong sense of despair and that the only way that I could escape 'Salvia's wrath' and be able to finish my work and continue with my life was if I was to take a short rest. I had underestimated the great Salvia and "he" was angry with me. I set my phone alarm for 8 PM and then lie in my bed with the lights off, along with a new selection of music (I turned Incubus off after I felt that Brandon Boyd was yelling at me. Now I listened to Enigma and The Mars Volta [as a suggestion off of these forums]). I eventually feel great and euphoric in a way and this continues for the next 2-3 hours until I get myself up and sober at 10 PM. I have a feeling that it lasted a lot longer because of the Fly Agaric, and would like to compare this to my other extract.

Since then I have done it one more time, although it wasn't really a good trip because of a bad environment and a very small dosage. Tomorrow morning I'm going to have a true experience with Salvia as I plan to use most of it with three close friends of mine. Overall I must say that Salvia is a very interesting and surprising herb, although I would highly recommend that you go into it carefree and relaxed. The taste isn't particular pleasant but that's nothing big.

[bluewoods]

Well, the great and euphoric part sounds nice, but all the rest sounds quite crappy. Have you smoked it w/o any weed to evaluate only its effect?

[divinenow]

Not yet, although tomorrow morning that's going to change (as I'll get my friend to bring a screen and won't have to use weed as a substitute). Yeah, the first part was a little over-the-top for me at the time. Still, I believe this to be due to my stress with the remaining work and waking up early the next day. The time I did afterwards didn't have any negative effects on me. As fearful as it was... I must say it was still very very interesting.

[divinenow]

Well, a couple days after the first experience my friend, we'll call him B, came over to try some for himself. He took about a bong bowl (maybe two?) and I took his shotguns. Now I wasn't feeling much except for a small bit of happiness, a slowing of time, and an interest in the ordinary (such as watching the 'fascinating smoke' linger in the air). From what I understand though, B was tripping strongly. Throughout his experience, B thought he was in some sort of Native American drug shack, where people pay "guides" to get them high. As I passed him the bong for a second hit, B was transported to a "land of mushrooms" where he was teased by mushroom people and panicked when he couldn't leave this land. Overall, his trip lasted for around 5-10 minutes (much much shorter than my first, and this is using the same extract) and as a whole the drug was gone from the body by 30 minutes time. I was playing the Mars Volta's new album at the time of this experience, B later told me that the music was too intense for his Salvia trip.
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So now, what I had been waiting for. My three close friends all drove to my place the next morning. We only had a couple of hours as I had somewhere to be shortly, so we didn't waste any time getting started. I lit up an incense and played some Pink Floyd and Bob Marley in the background (at one time or another, I just remember setting both to play at a point) and then proceeded to take my hit, this time using the pure Salvia 10x extract (strawberry flavored!). The first two to go were B (from the day before) and I. And let me tell you, although this particular extract did smell quite nice it really did not have a pleasant taste going down. Well, so B and I split two bowls, and the other two (*ahem* A and Z) would watch over us for 30 minutes before they went ahead to have some too. Now although I did not get any visuals yet again, I was very very high. I just remember certain times of the trip, the most entertaining included my brother who walked in at various times (he knew that I was using Salvia but was sober during the experience). At one point he walked in with a Jamaican wig and proceeded to talk to B and I ("the high ones") in an accent, playing tricks on us with a miniature dried crocodile head (I don't know if it's of a real crocodile or not, but it's used sort of shelf accessory that my brother owns). I responded by staring with fascination and then laughing hysterically.... Another time he walked in, turned on some intense trance music (Infected Mushrooms), looked me in the eyes saying slowly "The computers are taking over" and then walked out yet again. Following this I stared intensely at the computer screen (immersing myself with the visualizations) and began to ponder the idea of what it would be like if the computers were really taking over. I glanced about the room and ideas came into my head as it slowly dawned upon me that I was chosen to fight these computers, this only lasted a small amount of time before I forgot about the computer entirely. B stated that the visualizations 'were creating worlds in the computer' yet after staring for quite some time with only slight effects I lost interest. After some time (I was still quite high yet feeling a bit more straight) I decided that the two sober sitters were ready to join B and I with the experience. I lit A a bowl of Salvia extract, and right after his first hit he was done. Meanwhile Z was having trouble (it's worth mentioning that he is the largest out of all of us, yet not by a huge amount. Also, both him and I at this point were taking pretty small hits and were coughing a lot), and we split 1,2,3 bowls yet no effect for him (quite the opposite for me though ). I spent the rest of the time smoking a couple of mini-cigars with Z and when I walked outside to empty the ashtray (which also serves as the top of my stash box) I ended up spilling all of its contents and ran outside in a very cannabis-like haze to pick up my fallen items (fortunately I did find all of them although with difficulty). The four of us spent the rest of the time on the very comfortable couch where we wrote fun lyrics in B's notebook (the guys were the other members of my ska/punk/funk band) and I proceeded to use the combination of squinting my eyes and my 'mind powers' (don't even ask... I was out of it) to 'scrub off the spider webs that were on my windows' (this did not end up working). After they left I smoked a small amount of weed in my pipe before leaving up north in a long car ride (where I spent thinking amazingly stupid things to myself for the next 5-6 hours). Overall, this trip was like a strong and very pleasant high for me, and it lasted quite a bit.Still, I don't think I've been taking good hits of the Salvia and that may be weakening its effects considerably. During this week I plan on trying Salvia again under different conditions and trying my best to take longer and stronger hits (I'm not a frequent smoker so my lungs aren't very "experienced"). Expect another post real soon.Here are my friend's experiences:
B - Sitting quietly on my bed and staring in to the screen (once again the visualizations), he was once again tripping strong and had a small high for the rest of the night. At a certain point B ran around my room imitating a raptor, I nearly pissed my pants at his impression.
A - A was just out of it. As soon as he took his first hit (a decent hit yet I'd say it used up less than even half the bowl) he just lay back on my bed and looked up. I stood up to check if he was doing well and A began to talk about the 'goblin on my NIN poster'. This surprised me as I began imagining a green goblin walking across the poster lettering. After this he changed the topic to the 'fountain man that was getting him high'. I furiously searched across my desk and couldn't find a fountain man, so I asked A where this fountain man was. He pointed at the painting on my wall (which actually included a mermaid fountain in the scene). I corrected him stating that the fountain was not a man but a woman. The next time I saw him he was climbing under my bed still talking about the fountain man. I thought that it would be humorous to imitate an Alien at this moment and grab at him. This may have frightened him a bit...
Z - Sadly, Z didn't get a trip at all other than a small buzz. Once again, I'd think it's because of his short breaths and coughing fits...
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Several things about all three experiences:
***The hits were taken out of my small plastic bong, which was cooled before use.
***The smoking took place in my room (comfortable yet not too spacey), incense was lit prior, the lights were dimmed, and music [and visualizations] were running in my room.
***I did not take as great of hits as I probably should have (at least for best effects), not holding the smoke in my lungs for too long. I have a feeling that this was what really lowered the overall strength of the trips.

[naughtyneighbor]

Sounds like a blast man, I'm getting 20X extract in the mail right now through ebay. How much did you pay total for those 2 grams?

I got a good deal and brokered with the guy so I got 2 grams of 20X for $25

[divinenow]

Ah nice, I got the two grams for $45.