Benefits of Organic Tobacco

Discussion in 'General' started by Blaze4Peace, Mar 15, 2013.

  1. I did not write this. It comes from here- https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/sci.med.nutrition/jcAkBLjmMTs

    Feel free to discuss!:)

    Here are few beneficial effects of organic tobacco smoke (most not due to
    nicotine):

    1. Upregulates glutathione (by 80%), catalase and SOD (by 100%).

    2. Selective MAO B inhibition (by 40%), much safer and more harmonious
    with overall biochemistry than via selegiline. Smokers in their 50s
    have MAO B of non-smokers in their 20s.

    3. Dopamine (throughout the body, including brain), acetylcholine and
    norepinephrine are also stimulated directly (protective & therapeutic
    for ADD, Tourette, anxiety, depression, schizophrenia).

    4. Upregulates pregnenolone, DHEA and testosterone and slows down
    their decline with age (protective against endometrial cancer &
    endometriosis).

    5. Upregulates telomerase and suppresses apoptosis (protects against
    Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, also via 1,2 & 3; e.g. resulting in tenfold
    lowered rates for early onset Alzheimer's, twelvefold for early
    Parkinson's; protective in strokes & spinal injuries).

    6. Upregulates vascular growth factor (via nicotine CO, NO).

    7. Provides CoQ10 (which is even manufactured from tobacco) & niacin
    directly into arterial bloodstream.

    8. Upregulates neutrophiles (by 20%)

    9. Reduces appetite and increase basal metabolism.

    10. Suppresses amyloidosis throughout tissues, not just brain

    12. Improves insulin sensitivity, protects against & alleviates
    diabetes.

    13. Anti-inflammatory effects at multiple levels, from T-cells through
    CNS vagus/'cholinergic anti-inflammatory' pathway (therapeutic &
    protective against asthma, allergies, ulcerative colitis, IBD, colon
    cancer, apthous ulcers, arthritis, pre-eclampsia, endotoxemia,
    polymicrobial sepsis...)

    14. Downregulates IGF-1

    15. Downregulates NF-kB

    16. Upregulates bFGF (basic fibroblast growth factor) and MMPs
    (expression of several matrix metalloproteinases)

    17. Increases BDNF (brain-derived neurotrophic factor) expression

    18. Reduces TNF-alpha and increases adiponectin (adipocyte effects)

    ... and so on.

    The net effect is that smoking animals (such as mice, rats, hamsters,
    dogs,... even those smoking at 5+ packs/day equivalents) live about
    20% longer, stay 10-15% thinner and sharper throughout. Smokers are
    over-represented among supercentenarians and, among others the oldest
    man and the oldest women ever were smokers (the only two humans who
    lived over 120). The current oldest man is also a lifelong smoker. The
    oldest marathon runner (completed London marathon at age 101) even
    smoked few cigarettes during the marathon.

    After 6+ decades of massive efforts to demonstrate experimentally any
    harm at all from inhalation of tobacco smoke, pharma sponsored
    antismoking researchers still don't know how to shorten the lifespans
    of test animals via inhalation of tobacco smoke, short of gross smoke
    asphixiation (you could cause same kind of overdose harm with plain
    water and it's easier to overdose on water than on tobacco smoke).

    The entire antismoking "science" (sponsored and publicised mainly by
    Big Pharma, which battles and suppresses as much as it can all other
    natural & folk medicines as well) rests entirely on blind statistical
    correlations on non-randomized (self-selected subjects) samples of
    smoking with 'smoking related diseases'. Such non-randomized
    correlations are equally consistent with beneficial and causal role of
    tobacco smoke in those diseases. This is no different than observing
    that people using statins or blood pressure medications will have more
    heart attacks than those not using them. Or that people wearing
    sunglasses will have more sunburns and skin cancers thn those not
    wearing them. Sunglasses are merely a statistical marker for sun
    exposure. Similarly, use of tobacco smoke is a proxy for any exposure
    or biochemical/genetic malfunction for which the enumerated effects
    are protective and therapeutic.

    For example, the upregulation of the main internal antixoidants &
    detox enzymes (1), implies that tobacco smoking will protect against
    and alleviate the harmful effects of most industrial and environmental
    toxins, hence people suffering such toxic exposures, or those
    especially sensitive to them, would perceive tangible benefits from
    smoking due to doubled detox rates (this has been experimentally
    verified animal experiments and observed in human studies), thus they
    would smoke more than general population, resulting thus in
    statistical correlations with diseases (e.g. lung cancer, copd) caused
    by the very same toxins against which tobacco smoke is protective.

    See references & further discussions here:

    Site: Smoking is good for you (a friend who liked ideas)
    http://www.wispofsmo...goodforyou.html

    Some online books & papers for the above page
    http://www.wispofsmo.../goodreads.html

    The Scientific Scandal of Antismoking
    http://members.iinet...ay/TSSOASb.html

    Discussion 1 (imminst/nootropic forum)
    http://www.imminst.o....5da1c047f937d...

    Discussion 2 (imminst/nootropic forum)
    http://www.imminst.o...ho...p=263376&...

    Discussion in nootropic section of m&m forum
    http://www.mindandmu....p...;st=30&p=...

    Harm from quitting
    http://forum.ryorevo...?p=14089#p14089

    Refs & discussion of longevity experiments & facts
    http://www.freerepub.../posts?page=#13

    Amyloidosis effects
    http://scholar.googl....amp;q=amyloid...

    Neurotrophic effects
    http://scholar.googl......ffects (nic...

    Neuroprotective effects
    http://scholar.googl......e effects (...

    Petr Skrabanek (books in pdf format)
    * Follies and Fallacies in Medicine
    http://www.curezone.....lacies-in-Med...
    * Death of Humane Medicine
    http://www.curezone....ne-Medicine.pdf
    * False Premises False Promises
    http://www.curezone.....False-Promise...
     
  2. Do any companies sell organic tobacco?
     
  3. It's still not worth smoking.
     
  4. Why .
     
  5. I always had trouble focusing, caffeine doesnt really help, but tobacco works well for me, but i really dont use tobacco that much, cause of it being addictive
     
  6. Isn't plain organic tobacco less addictive?
     

  7. I know it's smoother and tastes and smells better, not sure about being less addictive but I'd go ahead and say it's the same as regular.
     
  8. Fuck tobacco, alcohol, and drugs.

    Long live hemp
     
  9. thc/cbd is all i need
     
  10. So I guess you smoke hemp?
     
  11. Cannabis to be exact, I don't call it marijuana because that's the name the demented government gave it :)
     
  12. So you do like a drugs then.
     
  13. Well my point of view is cannabis has been criticized so much and still does, even though it is pointless propaganda , so I don't consider it a drug. My reasons are it virtually does no harm to you. So why do you want to keep labeling it as something that is with bad stuff called drugs.

    And fuck alcohol, tobacco, & caffeine

    I don't do drugs.
     
  14. Your missing out... lol

    and btw bud is a drug. Just because something is called a drug doesn't mean its 'bad'.
     
  15. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..
     
  16. ^^good argument
     
  17. I wouldn't mind some legit organic tobacco for spiffs. Not quite sure where to get it though.
     
  18. Nicotine is the addictive ingredient. I wouldn't think it would make any difference how it is grown. Once you're addicted you will need the same amount of nicotine to satisfy the craving. Smoking "light" cigarettes is no answer; you'll just smoke more of them, so the actual amount of nicotine in any given tobacco doesn't really matter.

    Nicotine is one of the most addictive drugs known. I smoked for 30+ years, but finally kicked it 13 years ago. It wasn't easy, and it took multiple tries spanning all those years.
     
  19. Its not worth smoking because it does virtually nothing for you whilst providing you with plenty of harmful carcinogens.

    but Hey, Smoke up Johnny
     

  20. You do a drug.

    Whether you like it or not, cannabis is a drug. The definition of a drug, to paraphrase it, is anything that changes your state of mind. Do you say you have an altered perception of reality when high? You get relaxed, you are generally happier, and there's a buzz. :wave:
     
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