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Old 10-05-2006, 03:06 PM
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Thumbs down Bush expected to sign gambling ban into law...

Bad news, ya'll...The day I feared has come. The House and Senate passed the bill to effectively ban online gambling, one congressmen stated something like, "It's more addictive than crack cocaine"... . When will they learn to protect our freedom as opposed to limiting it...
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:22 PM
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Oh great, yet another prohibition.

Doesn't effect me, but this is just another reason why current western government is incredibly incompetent and ineffective.
 
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:28 PM
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Oh great, yet another prohibition.

Doesn't effect me, but this is just another reason why current western government is incredibly incompetent and ineffective.
definitely...It's pretty bad if u think about it. I wouldn't be surprised if this had more to do with econ than anything else. It's a billions dollar a year industry, and, of course, the US has the largest amount of customers. The thing I don't get, though, is the legality of it, the ban. BC, these companies are based internationally ...so does anyone know if this affects pokerstars? Or other such entities...I didn't get much info yet. Maybe it's just a ban on companies based in the US? Like I said it's not signed yet, and I don't have all the facts. So if anybody knows more about this than I do feel free to comment.
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Abuse of power is more addictive than crack cocaine.
 
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Old 10-05-2006, 03:56 PM
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Abuse of power is more addictive than crack cocaine.
hahaha. indeed.
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Abuse of power is more addictive than crack cocaine.
Haha...Rep+
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The only articles I can find on it, are from february. If they do ban online gambling, I guess I'll have to find a new hobby, Until it happens I guess I'll have to spend as much time on partypoker as I can.
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The reason is that it's tax revenue they're not currently getting their hands on. The gambling companys are, as was said above, mostly internationally owned.

If it were happening here in the UK the government strategy would be to;

1) Say how evil online gambling was.
2) Have it banned.
3) Some months later, 'Bow to public pressure', as a thoughtful, caring government and open up a government owned online gambling site, fully taxed at source.
5) Lower the prize percentage rates after six months to 'cover costs', thus causing a drop in sales. The business declines as people drift away.
6) The government loses millions as it sells the online site to private business.
7) Private business does very well out of it, thanks very much, as it sees a sudden rise in sales.
8) The government issues a statement saying that online gambling is evil and should be banned...

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yea that sucks for sure

i heard they ban US IPs but some like full tilt and another one i think are privately owned and if u set up an off shore account u can still play on it

it doesnt effect anyone outside the US its bullshit, cause idk about most people but im not gonna set up an off shore account to play online
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Think of it from another view:

I'm in no way saying this bill is the answer but I personally know someone who used their grandmother's (who is out of it and doesn't realize whats going on) credit card to gamble online.

OK- so this bill prevents some looser from using his grandmother's credit card but what about the real issue- gambling problems. People who have gambling problems can easily take advantage of anyone with credit cards, not just their family. This bill will help contain gambling addiction to be a public issue rather than hidden behind the internet.

Now- this bill hardly limits ones freedom to gamble, I mean there are casinos pretty available now-a-days for the most part.

Again, I'm not saying this is or isn't a good thing, I have to think about it, but I mean really, is online gambling necessary/ or a protected right?
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Oh no, you've got it all wrong! They arent inhibiting our freedoms! They're protecting us! It's absolutely intolerable that people can do what they want with their money, what an injustice.
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Quote - gambling problems. People who have gambling problems can easily take advantage of anyone with credit cards, not just their family. This bill will help contain gambling addiction to be a public issue rather than hidden behind the internet. Quote

I know what you mean, but people with gambling problems wont stop gambling because of it, they'll just gamble elsewhere.

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Quote - gambling problems. People who have gambling problems can easily take advantage of anyone with credit cards, not just their family. This bill will help contain gambling addiction to be a public issue rather than hidden behind the internet. Quote

I know what you mean, but people with gambling problems wont stop gambling because of it, they'll just gamble elsewhere.

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It's a lot harder to use a credit card that doesn't belong to you in person rather than online, i mean think about it.

I'm just saying the things we think are constitutionally protected may not be- online gambling is just another way for someone to extort people. I mean here is a person/company that is making money off the LOSES of other people. Your not paying a servive- they are taking your money.

Theres alot of things I don't agree with, but to argue that this should be a protected right seems ignorant to me.

People should be able to do what ever they want with their money- this online gambling makes it easy for someone to be using money that isn't theirs.
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It's a lot harder to use a credit card that doesn't belong to you in person rather than online, i mean think about it.

I'm just saying the things we think are constitutionally protected may not be- online gambling is just another way for someone to extort people. I mean here is a person/company that is making money off the LOSES of other people. Your not paying a servive- they are taking your money.

Theres alot of things I don't agree with, but to argue that this should be a protected right seems ignorant to me.

People should be able to do what ever they want with their money- this online gambling makes it easy for someone to be using money that isn't theirs.

In online poker sites, they Don't take your money, just a small 5% rake of the pot, other people take your money.
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