why don't we get serious about our shit?

[Lexus_Rolla]

Originally Posted by Shouse1018

So everyone misses your point and its OUR fault?? Typical finger pointing without

every examining where the finger is coming from. Nobody said all of your points

are stupid. It's all in how your present your points that's a little fucked up. You come

off as some kind of Know it all with a thug mentality. You are a Sellout. You tell me

If you guys really want to change things. I can tell you how. You need to go to college and major in political science and minor in economics. After that you need to begin busting ass to get elected in some local position. Work your way up locally and into the state government. Become senators and representatives of your state and you can make a difference.

He wants to change how the issue of cannabis is handled in this country. His silly plan is not how its going to happen. They're naive thoughts of someone who sounds like he really wants to do something. Its a very common tale especially around here. This isn't the first thread like this we've had. If he truly wishes to do something he can do what I said and he literally will make a difference. Who creates the laws in this country? The Senate and the House. They can override even the president. How do you change the laws? Become the person who writes the laws. But see I doubt he actually wants to take it *that* far. He wants things to change, but he doesn't want to work *that* hard for it. Its far too easy to watch someone else do it for you. That's why no one but a select few get serious about their shit.

So the only way for the truth to be heard is to become an Untruthful Politician.

Maybe not brainwashed but I do believe you may suffer from some type of

psychological illness. All your posts and pretty bitter. I think you get enjoyment

from objecting to people. In your mind You are always right and there is never

any room for compromise. And for a moment please sir, if you could step off your

mighty pedalstool and actually apply the "education" you so Blaintly possess you

would read that never did I say I focus was to plants seeds. I believe (and I don't

feel your worth the extra time to skp back a little and reread my posts) I said

something to the effect of "I still think planting seeds is a good idea because it gets

people active and doing something is better than doing nothing". You you should

get a new angle. And I don't really see your mom spreading anything but her legs. . .

(sorry, jk couldnt resist a good joke) Ya know I've never been to Norris Lake but

why would you plant weed at a Lake? The Whole Idea for planting is to get a message

across to people. Sounds like they were just tryin to grow a stash.

You probably don't even have a fucking clue as to why cannabis is actually illegal, and why it will never be legal. Damn do some research or something

LOL. You already give up before you fight. You are a COWARD. All that education

won't buy you Courage buddy.

And yes you are in school and I am not. But it doesn't mean anything. I know plenty

of Ignorant people in colleges who probaly won't amount to much in the real world.

Man this is a real challenge. You're truly a fool with his head up his ass.

I like that sweeping generalization that all politicians are untruthful simply because they're politicians. Yeah that's a logical statement isn't it? Because I sound mean in my posts I have a disorder or an illness? Well thanks for that checkup Dr. Phil that was another brilliant generalization on your part. You're really good at logical fallacies, straw-manning, and the sweeping generalizations. Too bad they do nothing but make you look ignorant. My only regret is that you probably don't know the definitions of any of the terms

Oh and the mom joke. Well that's what seals the deal. That right there simply proves your ignorance. You put your foot in your mouth before I even got a chance to make you. I mean really dude you're a flatout joke. You can't form a sentence hell you can't even form a paragraph and you call me stupid for going to college. I think you need to get out of the 10th grade first .

Do realize why planting all those seeds wouldn't get a message across? Because you wouldn't be there to say something with the authorities ripped all your plants down. They'll simply assume someone was trying to grow a stash. However I doubt you could even get your plants to grow at all. The growing of cannabis is practically a science at this point. Its quite complex and I really doubt you could handle it. This whole thread has been moot.

This is where I stop. This post and every one of my posts in this thread has been futile because you aren't going to listen to me. You're so convinced that I'm a sellout for going to college, that I'm being institutionalized by the MAN, and that I'm a coward for whatever silly reason you came up with that you will absolutley not listen to me. This is like trying to talk some radical muslim out of Jihad. So I'm done with this. I'll let you think your right and you go and plant all your seeds. You get your 'message' across. Good luck you're going to need it.

[Shouse1018]

Originally Posted by Lexus_Rolla

Man this is a real challenge. You're truly a fool with his head up his ass.

I like that sweeping generalization that all politicians are untruthful simply because they're politicians. Yeah that's a logical statement isn't it? Because I sound mean in my posts I have a disorder or an illness? Well thanks for that checkup Dr. Phil that was another brilliant generalization on your part. You're really good at logical fallacies, straw-manning, and the sweeping generalizations. Too bad they do nothing but make you look ignorant. My only regret is that you probably don't know the definitions of any of the terms

Oh and the mom joke. Well that's what seals the deal. That right there simply proves your ignorance. You put your foot in your mouth before I even got a chance to make you. I mean really dude you're a flatout joke. You can't form a sentence hell you can't even form a paragraph and you call me stupid for going to college. I think you need to get out of the 10th grade first .

Do realize why planting all those seeds wouldn't get a message across? Because you wouldn't be there to say something with the authorities ripped all your plants down. They'll simply assume someone was trying to grow a stash. However I doubt you could even get your plants to grow at all. The growing of cannabis is practically a science at this point. Its quite complex and I really doubt you could handle it. This whole thread has been moot.

This is where I stop. This post and every one of my posts in this thread has been futile because you aren't going to listen to me. You're so convinced that I'm a sellout for going to college, that I'm being institutionalized by the MAN, and that I'm a coward for whatever silly reason you came up with that you will absolutley not listen to me. This is like trying to talk some radical muslim out of Jihad. So I'm done with this. I'll let you think your right and you go and plant all your seeds. You get your 'message' across. Good luck you're going to need it.

Bye bye now. I enjoyed debating with you. You're the one whose gettin Riled

up by what someone is sayin over the internet, LOL. My entire Conv. with you

is out of pure enjoyment.

Just one question though. How does that joke prove my lack of intelligence!??

I even went of of my way to let you know it was joke for this very reason.

Sorry you can't laugh. . . .you should try it more. You should also be a lighten up

a little man. Even if someone wants to Do something, Why do you have to be

the one to just be flat out rude?

Some positivity from your part isn't gonna hurt anything. I think you will find that

happiness starts with a positive and healthy outlook. And people will follow your

lead.

[weedzilla420]

if harry anslinger didn't have the help of william randolph hearst (may their wretched souls rot in the pits of hell for all eternity) in the 1930's mj would never have reached the illegal status it's in. the public was completely duped with the lies and propaganda because they trusted the "facts" that the govt was feeding them. now people do not trust the govt as much and are willing to publically take opposition to unfair policies. the only way to change the law is through public opionion. however, i am ambiguous on how to change public opinion because i have sat down with antiweed people and explained to them virtually all the talking points on pro legalization, and in spite of all of those facts they still retain their anti stance because thats what they've been conditioned to do through all the years of dare and propaganda filled anti drug education. i think before you could expect full decriminalization you would first have to get it approved for medicinal use. 10 or 11 states have already passed medical mj laws knowingly in violation with federal law. this proves states are willing to adopt measures in violtion with govt policy if they view the law to be unfair. the goal is to have widespread medical mj laws. after a few years of states allowing medicinal use, the case would build that mj's effects were virtually harmless to the body based on the effects it will have on the patients using it. i think that info could be used to persuade congress to eventually adopt full decriminalization or something close to it. that's the only way i can really see it happening.

[100WattWarlock]

Originally Posted by Floydian

Plant it everywhere, then just have them slap it in your face by 1) arresting more of us 2) Using it to their advantage by saying shit like 'Look at the barbaric and pitiful tactics they use in their side of the war on drugs...' etc. If you're gonna do it, at least in my opinion, it has to be done at their own game... which is politics. With every generation, our community of smokers'n'tokers grow. Some of us are gonna weasel our way in to politics. Then when he can convince them, or at least beat them, in courts and hearings, and still by following all of their bullshit laws until we get them changed, then in a non literall way (and for lack of a better way of putting this), they'll have no way to say 'we want a rematch.'

Now, if for punishment, they purposed we all have to sit down and smoke all the weed we planted until it's ALL gone... then plant away.

I don't think thats all nessecary for a couple of reasons:
1. There is no state
2. If I don't pay my taxes, I get thrown into rape rooms, or shot if I resist.
3. The legitamacy of this entity we call state is immoral and far from consistent ethiclly, so you have genocide, war, innocent people going to jail etc etc. Power always corrupts, and if the war on drugs was really about a "war on drugs". They would focus on the drugs itself rather than imprisoning people for using it. The fact that the state wants you dead is reason enough to oppose it. War on drugs my ass. The state wants you dead, period!

I would expand on that but I'll just leave these links for you to educate yourselves. Take the time to understand that social experiments like socialism and communism will never work because of the power disparity between the citizens and the state. People predict the collapse of the state will collapse sooner than we think because of the national debt, so we need to get our act together. Peace, and take care.

www.freedomainradio.com

www.adventuresinlegalland.com

[100WattWarlock]

I would use an argument for morality with anyone who condems you for using cannabis in anyway.

[100WattWarlock]

Btw, I wasn't directly replying to Floydian's post, but was sharing some important info.

[broketoker420]

im gonna collect all my bag seed now and just go plant it in random places all over my city

[LavanderHydro]

Abso-F*ckin-Lutly. Big Business and Corporations Run The World. The only reason its not legal in America, is b/c the gov't has no real way of taxing and regulating it. Yet they spend upwards of $13 Billion dollars on "the war against drugs" and the jails and prisons keep getting more and more overpopulated with "non-criminals" such as weed smokers and dealers. Someone arrested with pounds of weed or any other drugs gets more jail time then someone who murders someone, is it just me, or is that F*cking CRAZY?!?!?!?

[Leif]

I don't know about the whole making it run rampant. Yes, we have to fight for our freedom, but in doing so, it makes more sense to change the public's view on pot. From there we must take it to a higher level, having people in congress to help us fight for it's legalization.

[Sr. Pyzik]

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[Ak4]

I hate posting in an old thread like this but whatever.

I hope people who tell everyone to go out and plant seeds everywhere realize that the country (US) used to be full of fields of wild pot. Guess what happened? The government burned it all, growing pot in the wild again wont make them legalize it.