impact of LST

[budblower10]

ok, i know that it helps, and i have heard it helps alot, but how much does LSTing a plant really increase the yeild by? has ne 1 ever had two plants of same type in the same conditions - one that was lsted and one that wasnt - if so how much was the difference in yeild? im just trying to get a understanding of the true impact of lst. any comments are appreciated, thanks

[fisher1986]

come october i will be able to answer that question. im trying different ways of training my plants and im also leaving a few to grow naturally just to experiment and see which works best for me. so i can use the best method the following season

[jonster]

k heres something to pursuay your thoughts of lst. naturally grown plants of mine produced not nearly as much as a plant that happened to grow leaning away from the sun ( so it got side light penetration, somewhat the same sense as lst ). i guess from naturaly grown plants the sun can't penetrate as well from the top because fan leaves block light, which allows less branch growth.

more light penetration in veg. = more branch veg. growth = more bud sites come flower = larger harvest

lst is just a way of getting more branch growth without high stress( such as fimming) which can slow growth, and lower bushier style instead of xmas tree.

[Hottbody]

Hey -

In past years I have top my plants to make them have more bud area and it works (shorter bush like plants) but this year I am planning on training my plants by tying them down since I think it will work better. I will let you know in a few months.

Kisses -
Hott

[nicho69]

i grow 5 naturally , one lst and one was topped . you'll see some results soon

[APalmer]

I tied my plants back but it wasn't for a better yeild that I ws focusing on. I wanted the inside of the plant to get enough sun so they will sprout filling out the plant to hope for a beter yeild. hope s get a better yeild.

[Spanishfly]

Originally Posted by fisher1986

come october i will be able to answer that question. im trying different ways of training my plants and im also leaving a few to grow naturally just to experiment and see which works best for me. so i can use the best method the following season

I will be most interested to read your results.

[newbie01]

As jonster said, plants that get sun from the side grow better, so what you could do is make a big cone of tinfoil(a cone like those things they put on dogs so that dont scratch their face or bite themselfs) around your plants and they will get sun reflected up into the center by the stalk and all around it too, its like a 360degree lightbulb/sun.

[Spanishfly]

A big cone of tinfoil to reflect sunlight??

Oh right, that won´t attract unwanted attention, will it??

[up4anything]

Originally Posted by newbie01

As jonster said, plants that get sun from the side grow better, so what you could do is make a big cone of tinfoil(a cone like those things they put on dogs so that dont scratch their face or bite themselfs) around your plants and they will get sun reflected up into the center by the stalk and all around it too, its like a 360degree lightbulb/sun.

so not good.

[booyah]

I can say that for indoor's LST will make a larger yeild, especially with lower wattage lights. I find that topping stresses the plant, and they dont grow for a few days.. when you tie them down, they get a sudden boost in vigor.. thats what I have found..

As for outdoors I am not sure, but I would like to know.. Wouldn't be hard to clone some baby's, grow them inside for say, 3 weeks, then plant them outside, sideways.. and tie them down to a tree or a post.

I know it helps in grow rooms because of the light penitration restrictions.. As for outdoor, the sun has alot of penitration. I dont think you need to tie your plant down sideways in order to get the lower growth to see the light. Hang a few weights on your plants like a x-mas tree, the branches will hang down and out, instead of growing upright.

[Marie-jane]

I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion about outdoor LST. Since I dont want them to be seen the rope cant be a '' Flashy'' color and cant have a small diametre since strong winds could easly rip off the growth shot. So any idea?

M-J

[jonster]

Originally Posted by Marie-jane

I was wondering if anyone had a suggestion about outdoor LST. Since I dont want them to be seen the rope cant be a '' Flashy'' color and cant have a small diametre since strong winds could easly rip off the growth shot. So any idea?

M-J

hey man, this is an outdoor LST plant of mine, it's been tied for 8 days now, as branches grow, i keep tyng it down further. reminds me of a grape vine, except parralel with the ground, this opens up branch growth from the middle and bottom of the plant, otherwise it probasbly would only have top growth like most plants if it wern't tied down. the impact is huge i beleive, much more tops will grow, for larger yield. but, we will see the true impact come time of harvest, around 3.5 more months!

[Marie-jane]

Thats a fine ass grow op you got there. I read most of your journal and I think I found the answer to my question but what did you use to ties down your plants? I beleive I read coat hangers, am I right? Thanks

Edit: These are planted in holes I dug, my plants are rougly 1 foot high more than what I need to start Lst.

[jonster]

coat hangers work well and bend to your plants specifications, metal ones are best because they can easily be put in the ground. even tying your plants at a 45 degree angle away from the sun, instead of completely parrelel with the ground will work. i almost recommend this because u don't have a high risk of breaking your main stem, fiddling around trying to bend it. after a few days, the top of the plant will want to grow towards the sun, kind of destroying the method of your LST, so tie it down further, and keep doing this until the bush shape forms and you have an even canopy.

if u have more questions i can discuss whatever u want, just ask.