Calling north Canada guerilla growers. (advice needed in Scotland)

[senior nice]

Ok, ive grew guerilla here in Scotland with mixed success for about 10 years at about 56/57* north. Over the last couple of years we have had dreadful summers and autumns and all of my usual bankers arent making it to harvest anymore. This year is the final straw as the effort ive put into creating a great new plot has been wasted and my buds wont be mature enough to smoke so will all be bubble bagged and hash made which is a bit of a bugger.

So, im looking for some advice from over the pond from growers in similar conditions to see what strains you guys are using. I used to chop durban and hollands hope the first half of october but now i cant find a strain hardy enough what can finish early and give me decent potency. Ive tried passion, biddy etc etc but its really something all new im needing i think. Is there any strains over there what give good yields and finish in september and can take a lot of crap weather?? Ive tried a few of the danish strains but most lack potency and yield and some just are plain weird and finish a month later than the rest!

I really want to find something what is perfect for our climate here but after spending LOTS of cash (and gambling a full years smoke) ive came to the conclusion that im just not going to find the strain i need over here in a seedbank.

Ive tried a few autos but the yield just doesnt make it worthwhile.

Any help with strains would be great as theres so much space to grow here but not enough growers to help me find/create a strain suitable for us.

Cheers

[sativasam]

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I just ordered from there via credit card, seeds delivered nice an discreet with good stealth packaging. They do all the Canadian strains and are based in the UK.

I got the Bonkers and Timewarp and also the outdoor mix from Secret Valley seeds, the breeders special mix packs look very tempting.

I'm in the UK to so you shouldnt have any problems though I dont know what exchange rate is applicable as all the prices are in US$.

Easy sativa has also proved its worth in the UK this year finishing late Sept/early Oct.

Good luck.

[Burned Haze]

Mighty Mite, Durban , Timewarp

i really love me Romulan , so was thinking of getting Romulan x timewarp

[MeddyBemps]

If it gets too bad, you can always invest in hps or something else.

[senior nice]

Howday

Thanks for replying. I tried to get some easy/early sativas from fem seeds early this year but they were sold out unfortunately. Hoping to try some out next season though if people dont snap them up before i notice they are for sale!

I've done durban here plenty times but now its just now finishing fast enough. I used to pull them about oct 10-15th but now they are not ready till late oct which im not sure why. Probably bad breeding techniques.,. I really cant afford to leave them out till october any more as our autumns (not that they were ever anything special before) are terrible here.

Between us in Scotland and the south of England there a whole heap of difference in climate aswell as flowering times. We are about 2/3 weeks later to flower than say people growing in kent due to our longer nights (its only about a half hour but what a difference that makes). Its a real drag and really annoying when youve put in the effort time and time again. No wonder so many people get put off growing here as our weather is so unpredictable it makes for some tough growing.

Mighty mite has been tried here (not by me but another scottish grower a couple of years back) and although they flowered pretty fast they still moulded up due to the bud getting a bit dense and the yield was pretty poor.

What im really needing here is a very fast flowering sativa with (durban takes too long unless im not trying the right breeder? done most 'off the shelf' durbans though so leaves me wondering if they are all the same finish time). Sat dom plants take much more weather than indica does due to the loose bud structure. Only thing is it takes a very good fall to get them to full maturity.

Is there any sativas that are fully finihsed (at 57*N) for mid sepember? The easy sativas look good but im sure there must be others worth trying. I have a good bit of space to grow and i really want to get it right next season. Even the weed what ive got out just now will still be 100x better than most of the street weed about ATM but im a fussy fecker and want quality dope not half ripe stuff (which most folk here wouldnt even notice! ) I would prefer to grow larger plants so i can keep down plant numbers and work needed but im willing to give anything a shot. Planting multiple seeds for autos etc can be very expensive if you aint got space indoors to breed them yourself.

Growing indoors aint possible for me where i am just now as ive already starred in the national newspaper for growing weed and got myself in a fair bit of trouble to boot. Anyways, i love a challenge and i cant quit after trying for over 10 years can i? I get off on the stealth and hard graft to make my plots nice even if the buds arent so pretty some seasons.

Any more ideas/suggestions would be great.

[kendork]

Hey, where you from? I'm gonna start a grow here in Scotland too, I've been studying it a lot so anything I come across I'll post it here for you.

Also how do you hide your grow spot then if you're a known grower? I wish I coud offer you some help but I'm in the same boat. Happy growing.

[sativasam]

The outdoor Sativas are the real gems Senior which are difficult to cultivate in the UK, for this very reason I have decided to try and breed my own seeds. I'm not as far north as you guyts but still have similiar finishing issues just a week or two behind you guys, autumn does seem to be about a week earlier in the Uk for every degree of lattitude you go further north.

I understand exactly what you mean about poorly finished buds as I just harvested my biggest top colas this week which, though nice and crystally and large have dried to be more leaf than calyx. Smokes ok but the flavour is lacking depth unfortunately.

The Timewarp that Burned Haze mentioned appears to be mostly sativa judging from the pics I have seen and is also reported to finish around 20th Sept at 49 north so another few weeks to finish may do the trick for you in Scotland Senior.

Burned Haze could you recommend a seedbank for the Durban and maybe tell us the expected finish time please?

Let us know how it turns out for you Senior and Kendork as I'm very interested in good outdoor strains for the UK.

Peace all

[-mu]

senior nice, I've got a real nice White Widow that finishes in 8 weeks, but is a great smoke in even 6 - you can have a copy, if you like.

I know someone in Aberdeen who could pass a clone to you.

-mu

[senior nice]

hey there thanks for popping in. i'll be sure to post my findings as i come across them and next year will do a diary to show how they turn out so other up here can get an idea as to what works and what dont without having to psend 100's on beans like i have had to do.

MU- The WW, cheers for the offer mate though im not sure that they are sensitive enough to start flowering in time before the gales/rains we get here. i really need somehting that flower in 13-15hrs day light so its ready for september/early october latest. do ya know anyone whos tried it outside successfully? Ive tried most of the outdoor strains and even they dont fully finish anymore which is a real shame as there must be lots of disappointed growers across northern europe trying them.

fingers crossed for a good autumn next season and armed with a load of new strains im sure its going to be a good harvest! once i get some crosses done i will be sharing the seed with others in trouble up here and hopefully get a good local strain put together.

cheers

[-mu]

I gave up growing outdoors at this latitude a few years ago, too damned unreliable. Come indoors, man! The yields are superior (all-year!) and you get to have way more fun, especially with breeding/genetics.

As for the the WW, I don't know her that well. I only grabbed a bag of WW to see what the fuss was about (and to see if the WW I'd smoked in the past was the real McCoy). Most of the other stuff I'm growing right now is years of crossing and selective breeding, and mostly around the 12 weeks mark to finish.

Most of the WW seeds were a nice smoke, finishing in 8 or 9 weeks, but one girl (the first seed to pop, too) was easily superior, and a decent smoke in 6 weeks, by which I mean, with a reasonable Sativa head about her. I grow mainly-Sativa strains, so I was surprised, and I've kept her around. 8/9 weeks = Guaranteed horizontalness! Very handy for bed-time, and to knock folk out, especially them that fancy themselves "seasoned tokers"! hehe.

I don't know what her trigger point is; I haven't done anything more than clone and grow her out. But being able to finish so quick means being able to plant out later, as you'll know, and that was what was in my mind when I mentioned her. That and a lot of Skunk #1 x Haze #1

If you like, I can play with her some, see how many hours it takes to flip her hairy bits. But dude, really, if it can be done, get indoors! Me, I might drop the odd clone out and about, for fun, but no way could I go back to relying on the seasons.

-mu

[senior nice]

theres nothing i would like more than to set up shop indoors again but after the last bust i reaaaaaally cant get in trouble again.. so, outdoors (and a couple of indoors a friends) is all i can do here just now cheers for the offer to mess about with your clone mate but its too much hassle for ya man and the chances are its not gonna react the way an outdoor plant is as its not climatised.

im sure next season using new genetics and a bit of careful breeding i can come up with something good to work on the following years. im not scared of a bit of hard work (well i dont mind ganja gardening ) and ive got all the time in the world to find a great strain for here so im kindof looking forward to getting stuck in next year with fresh enthusiam and new ideas. i might even make a new plot or 2 over the winter to stop be getting the growers blues! ive been looking at getting some thyphoon seeds from denmark they look VERY early for sativa dom plants. have a few leads to be checking out now so cheers and beers and dont forget to pop in if ya know of any super early strains for 55-60*N growers.

spliff time

[Gibbon]

Hi folks..I`m the same unlucky guerilla on 57N (Latvia)..I have tried Ruderalis Indica(crap),Early Misty(so so),Hollands Hope(so so)Afghan#1(so so)Swiss Cheese(o.k.)Ata Tundra(shit)..and yeah,every bloody autumn I`m getting f...in paranoid because of weather conditions..rain,frost ..I`m doing a lot of research..and all I need is strain that finishes mid september,not like all seeds companies claiming 7 weeks flowering,or finishing mid september..bullocks.But one day I belive growers up north will be able to grow descent buds on our 57N..
The best job for us is done,in Denmark,google Scandinavian Danish strains,you will find them on icmag.com forum..those are I strongly belive the only strains,aside from autoflowering strains,that we can grow in Scotland,Denmark,Finland,Northen Ireland,Estonia,Russia
But its hard to get these strains in seed form,the Danish seed banks dont ship outside the Denmark..so check out this strain
https://www.seedboutique.com/store/p...oducts_id=1891
So way to go for us,northern Scandinavian strains...and autoflowering strains..just check in google grow report from Lapland..you will be shocked.
I hope I saved your pressious summer experiment time,for real deal..leave those Early Biddy,Early skunks,Mendocino Madness etc stuff,for guys down south.
Been in Scotland once,crazy people

[bigains]

You thought about trying guerilla gold,a super early strain, finishing in Aug or early Sept. The genetics of this plant have been worked on by greens over in manitoba you can check it out at ICmag.com

[-mu]

I'm starting to hear great things about the newer autoflowering strains. Could be just what the doctor ordered.

-mu

[Gibbon]

its plenty of them now,I`m looking for some auto haze hybrids..they will soon hit the market,imagine we will be able to grow haze up north