Outdoor Grow Guide - Page 7

Corto Malteze · #91 (**permalink**) 03-28-2009, 10:30 AM

It's OldPork who explained this (as most of the stuff in the guide lol). My region is clay as well but the native soil is more part clay part sand part loam so I'll be using 20% of it. I think he was referring to using maybe 50% native pure clay wirh a lot of peat. The mixture will sink to the bottom. You should be fine. I don't know either?!?

L.L.Rain · #92 (**permalink**) 03-28-2009, 12:10 PM

yeah thanks man. the more clay soil is when you start digging so maybe hes saying, for the half of native soil, use the first soil that comes out, and chuck the half from the bottom of the hole? i dunno, but when someone says "this will kill the plants", and it sounds like somethin i'm about to do, lol....well thanks for your input

PlasticStaple · #93 (**permalink**) 03-29-2009, 01:59 AM

Thanks for the guide, its really helpfull!!

In the beggining you said to use a copper ring around the stem of the plant? Do you just mean something like an inch long surrounding the plant in the soil of the cup?

Just need some confirmation...

Also, is there a large chance of deer, and other wild animals eating or destroying the plants? Or are slugs the only real threat?

Corto Malteze · #94 (**permalink**) 03-29-2009, 10:25 AM

Yeah a little ring of a few inches around the stem. ALways leave it from babies to their whole life although the bigger risk is in 1st month or so.
Some places where deer are over populated, will see deer go through anything to eat something that's as tasty as big buds on mj (they're starved). Use moth balls in small cups, piss, dog hair/human hair, hunting repellant (coyote urine or so) fishing line around the plot. Chicken wire if you can.

Good luck. Glad I could help you out.

PlasticStaple · #95 (**permalink**) 03-29-2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corto Malteze

Yeah a little ring of a few inches around the stem. ALways leave it from babies to their whole life although the bigger risk is in 1st month or so.
Some places where deer are over populated, will see deer go through anything to eat something that's as tasty as big buds on mj (they're starved). Use moth balls in small cups, piss, dog hair/human hair, hunting repellant (coyote urine or so) fishing line around the plot. Chicken wire if you can.

Good luck. Glad I could help you out.

Hey, thanks alot. Just trying to get everything set up for next month

.

EDIT:
Ill actually take a hike out today to set up some fence type structure with some fishing wire.

TonyBalogna · #96 (**permalink**) 04-02-2009, 06:17 AM

I got the mixins' down but if you can help me with this problem. I have some beautiful plants in veg right now in my veg cab 18/6 light schedule. If I were to take those and stick them outside right now would they be shocked into flowering early or do I need to slowly set my timer back an hour a day until it matches the sunrise sunset table in my area? They are all traiinwreck clones and from what I hear they are fussy about trying to flower early. I want them to veg proper and large and try to avoid stunting them by transfering them outside. ANY ADVICE WOULD HELP GREATLY! If it's to much of a hassle I'll just go from seed. But I picked the special pheno mother for these clones! So fuzzy so dank! So pretty! And I want to do this transferrence smoothly! HELP!

Corto Malteze · #97 (**permalink**) 04-02-2009, 12:18 PM

I'm not sure about that one TonyBalogna. I start from seeds and all outdoors. Maybe someone can help you out. Sorry. I don't think they would flower now or go into shock. It could have happened if you took them out in Feb or March (short light hours could bring early flowering in late winter, early Spring). I don't think it would be a problem now. But the TW clones might be a different story. Good luck. They normally should continue vegging until July/Aug when the buds will show. I'm growing TW too this year. You could pm Dankohzee as he did an indoor/outdoor grow with TW last year and did it smoothly and succesfully.

Captain Cannabi · #98 (**permalink**) 04-03-2009, 03:58 AM

Hey, I just planted two seeds, started them in a greenhouse, April 2nd...
The forecast calls for rain tomorrow and the next day, temps at a high of 55 and a low of 37...
Will the seeds survive?
If so, it'll probably take about a week for germination, correct?

Corto Malteze · #99 (**permalink**) 04-03-2009, 08:42 AM

I use celsius so I'm not sure. No rush in any case. Just wait until there are no more frosts/ or use a greenhouse like you said.

Clubbernonx · #**100** (**permalink**) 04-09-2009, 03:25 AM

"After 1 month or so, take them out from the cups (cut the cups), and put them in 3-4 gallon pots in order to kill the males if non femmed before you put only females in the holes"
Im confused, so your saying the standard 16 oz solo cup will be big enough until the marijuana plants show their sex? I thought the marijuana plants only show their sex close to harvesting not 30 days?

#**101** (**permalink**) 04-09-2009, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clubbernonx

"After 1 month or so, take them out from the cups (cut the cups), and put them in 3-4 gallon pots in order to kill the males if non femmed before you put only females in the holes"
Im confused, so your saying the standard 16 oz solo cup will be big enough until the marijuana plants show their sex? I thought the marijuana plants only show their sex close to harvesting not 30 days?

Transplant the plants from the solo cups when they reach about 3-4 leaf sets at most to avoid them becoming root bound into 3-4 gallon pots until they show sex. Don't put any non-femmed seeds in the ground prior to checking sex to avoid having to pull them later on and wasting ground space. They will show their sex before they start to flower, just look for little ball sacs for males and pistils for females.

Clubbernonx · #**102** (**permalink**) 04-09-2009, 04:03 AM

oh ok, I was planning on germinating 5 seeds (to get at-least one female) and was trying to avoid having to buy 5 5 gallon buckets filled with FFOF. So basicaly I was trying to find a way to only have to buy one bag of FFOF for the 1-2 females that I end up with after problems with some seeds not germinating or being male.

Corto Malteze · #**103** (**permalink**) 04-09-2009, 08:14 AM

Thanks Firstimer. With the time difference, I was sleeping lol.

judroka · #**104** (**permalink**) 04-10-2009, 07:31 PM

nice to follow some directions

buck09 · #**105** (**permalink**) 04-12-2009, 05:18 AM

I live in Northern Cali, and the last time I grew outdoors these little brown catapillars ate my buds! I would like to avoid this with my new crop. Any ideas?

Also, I read in one of the threads that a guy was using mothballs. How do you use them? Do you put them in a container? How far from your plants? etc
Thanks in advance for your help

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#91 (permalink) 03-28-2009, 10:30 AM
Corto Malteze Night grower Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Europe: sunny and dry. Posts: 3,170	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide It's OldPork who explained this (as most of the stuff in the guide lol). My region is clay as well but the native soil is more part clay part sand part loam so I'll be using 20% of it. I think he was referring to using maybe 50% native pure clay wirh a lot of peat. The mixture will sink to the bottom. You should be fine. I don't know either?!? __________________

#92 (permalink) 03-28-2009, 12:10 PM
L.L.Rain here comes sunshine Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: upstate ny Posts: 60	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide yeah thanks man. the more clay soil is when you start digging so maybe hes saying, for the half of native soil, use the first soil that comes out, and chuck the half from the bottom of the hole? i dunno, but when someone says "this will kill the plants", and it sounds like somethin i'm about to do, lol....well thanks for your input

#93 (permalink) 03-29-2009, 01:59 AM
PlasticStaple Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 217	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide Thanks for the guide, its really helpfull!! In the beggining you said to use a copper ring around the stem of the plant? Do you just mean something like an inch long surrounding the plant in the soil of the cup? Just need some confirmation... Also, is there a large chance of deer, and other wild animals eating or destroying the plants? Or are slugs the only real threat? __________________

#94 (permalink) 03-29-2009, 10:25 AM
Corto Malteze Night grower Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Europe: sunny and dry. Posts: 3,170	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide Yeah a little ring of a few inches around the stem. ALways leave it from babies to their whole life although the bigger risk is in 1st month or so. Some places where deer are over populated, will see deer go through anything to eat something that's as tasty as big buds on mj (they're starved). Use moth balls in small cups, piss, dog hair/human hair, hunting repellant (coyote urine or so) fishing line around the plot. Chicken wire if you can. Good luck. Glad I could help you out. __________________

#96 (permalink) 04-02-2009, 06:17 AM
TonyBalogna TonyBalogna Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: So Cal Murrieta Posts: 172	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide I got the mixins' down but if you can help me with this problem. I have some beautiful plants in veg right now in my veg cab 18/6 light schedule. If I were to take those and stick them outside right now would they be shocked into flowering early or do I need to slowly set my timer back an hour a day until it matches the sunrise sunset table in my area? They are all traiinwreck clones and from what I hear they are fussy about trying to flower early. I want them to veg proper and large and try to avoid stunting them by transfering them outside. ANY ADVICE WOULD HELP GREATLY! If it's to much of a hassle I'll just go from seed. But I picked the special pheno mother for these clones! So fuzzy so dank! So pretty! And I want to do this transferrence smoothly! HELP!

#97 (permalink) 04-02-2009, 12:18 PM
Corto Malteze Night grower Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Europe: sunny and dry. Posts: 3,170	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide I'm not sure about that one TonyBalogna. I start from seeds and all outdoors. Maybe someone can help you out. Sorry. I don't think they would flower now or go into shock. It could have happened if you took them out in Feb or March (short light hours could bring early flowering in late winter, early Spring). I don't think it would be a problem now. But the TW clones might be a different story. Good luck. They normally should continue vegging until July/Aug when the buds will show. I'm growing TW too this year. You could pm Dankohzee as he did an indoor/outdoor grow with TW last year and did it smoothly and succesfully. __________________

#98 (permalink) 04-03-2009, 03:58 AM
Captain Cannabi "I love you, Sweet Leaf" Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Cannabis Headquarters Posts: 38	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide Hey, I just planted two seeds, started them in a greenhouse, April 2nd... The forecast calls for rain tomorrow and the next day, temps at a high of 55 and a low of 37... Will the seeds survive? If so, it'll probably take about a week for germination, correct? __________________ Peace, Love and Rock & Roll.

#99 (permalink) 04-03-2009, 08:42 AM
Corto Malteze Night grower Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Europe: sunny and dry. Posts: 3,170	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide I use celsius so I'm not sure. No rush in any case. Just wait until there are no more frosts/ or use a greenhouse like you said. __________________

#100 (permalink) 04-09-2009, 03:25 AM
Clubbernonx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 45	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide "After 1 month or so, take them out from the cups (cut the cups), and put them in 3-4 gallon pots in order to kill the males if non femmed before you put only females in the holes" Im confused, so your saying the standard 16 oz solo cup will be big enough until the marijuana plants show their sex? I thought the marijuana plants only show their sex close to harvesting not 30 days?

#102 (permalink) 04-09-2009, 04:03 AM
Clubbernonx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 45	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide oh ok, I was planning on germinating 5 seeds (to get at-least one female) and was trying to avoid having to buy 5 5 gallon buckets filled with FFOF. So basicaly I was trying to find a way to only have to buy one bag of FFOF for the 1-2 females that I end up with after problems with some seeds not germinating or being male.

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#103 (permalink) 04-09-2009, 08:14 AM
Corto Malteze Night grower Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Southern Europe: sunny and dry. Posts: 3,170	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide Thanks Firstimer. With the time difference, I was sleeping lol. __________________

#104 (permalink) 04-10-2009, 07:31 PM
judroka Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: milwaukee, wisconsin Posts: 20	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide nice to follow some directions

#105 (permalink) 04-12-2009, 05:18 AM
buck09 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2	Re: Outdoor Grow Guide I live in Northern Cali, and the last time I grew outdoors these little brown catapillars ate my buds! I would like to avoid this with my new crop. Any ideas? Also, I read in one of the threads that a guy was using mothballs. How do you use them? Do you put them in a container? How far from your plants? etc Thanks in advance for your help