greenhouse calendar help

[dagobaker]

im wondering if i change my plants inside to 12/12 on feb.15th
then transfer them to my greenhouse (covering at night will still be a must until probably april 15th) around march 15th when the sunlight and sunset will be the same giving me 12/12 still (7:31 AM 7:31 PM)
giving my white widow 10 weeks to flower will take me to around april 30th when it will be just less than 14 sun 10 dark (6:21 AM 8:19 PM)
will this work? will 14 on and 10 off make the plants reveg?
also if i put my new plants inside my greenhouse (maybe 4 week old clones)
june 1st which has 15 sun 9 dark (5:52 AM 8:49 PM)
will they stay into veg with 15 hours of sun? or revert to flower and then back to veg

[Konon]

I'd be willing to bet it'd frost or be cold temps still in Feb in Ohio. I don't know if it'd work or not since the light cycle will gradually get longer by the day.. since you'd want the light to be getting shorter to make the plant see that it doesn't have long to live so it flowers all the way before it dies. Granted you harvest before it dies.

[dagobaker]

i plan on starting 12/12 inside and then moving outside on march 15th
im putting 2 plants 12/12 on feb 1st
2 plants 12/12 on feb 15th
2 plants 12/12 on march 1st
and then putting them in the greenhouse on march 15 and see what happens
this way next year ill have some experience on the matter

[OldSkool1010]

I'm just curious, why are you starting your plants at 12/12 and then setting outside? Are you trying to match the spring time daylight hours or are you trying to force flower early? If the latter, I think vegetating under 24 hrs (or 18/6) and then setting outside when warm enough to flower would mean an earlier harvest. While the days are getting longer, the difference between the light cycle would induce flowers better.

Even though I'm in the northern hemisphere, my best outdoor flowering season is fall and winter.

Originally Posted by dagobaker

i plan on starting 12/12 inside and then moving outside on march 15th
im putting 2 plants 12/12 on feb 1st
2 plants 12/12 on feb 15th
2 plants 12/12 on march 1st
and then putting them in the greenhouse on march 15 and see what happens
this way next year ill have some experience on the matter

[dagobaker]

trying to start the flowering process so when i put them in the greenhouse on march 15 they will be on their way to flowering since the amount of light changes so quickly i want to bud them before they get to the 15 hours of sun point
hoping i can harvest during the 14 hours of sun point at the most

[trogdor4564]

Originally Posted by dagobaker

trying to start the flowering process so when i put them in the greenhouse on march 15 they will be on their way to flowering since the amount of light changes so quickly i want to bud them before they get to the 15 hours of sun point
hoping i can harvest during the 14 hours of sun point at the most

not gonna work..... when you put them outside in march (early spring time) they are gonna revert back to vegetative because they know wat time of year it is, you cant trick them. so a change like that might hermie them, or they will just re-veg.

[dagobaker]

but if its just 12 hours of sunlight in march here in ohio than why cant i bud them?

[Kottonspore]

March 20th, the official date of the spring equinox, is the worst time to plant outdoors for flowering, and all you going to do is get them to bud then revert to vegitation, because in actuality daylight is longer than 12 hours at that time of the year. The sun will last longer and longer with each passing day, till reach's its highest point in the summer, and the days become shorter aproaching autum and winter. Obviously some one didnt pay attention in natural science or astronomy.

Ignoring that, the suns light is producing a lot of light suitable for vegetative growth due to the earths tilt toward the sun.

read up buddy. http://science.howstuffworks.com/question581.htm

[Kottonspore]

Originally Posted by dagobaker

i plan on starting 12/12 inside and then moving outside on march 15th
im putting 2 plants 12/12 on feb 1st
2 plants 12/12 on feb 15th
2 plants 12/12 on march 1st
and then putting them in the greenhouse on march 15 and see what happens
this way next year ill have some experience on the matter

i am really laughing my ass off. How about adjusting your indoor growing to match the way the rest of the world plants their crops! You can't just decide your going to grow how ever is convenient for you with out regards for how the earth operates. There is a reason why everybody else in the world that is going to plant outdoors transplant their indoor vegging plants only a couple weeks after your proposed outdoor flowering. if you want to flower outdoors wait a few months you freakin stoner.

[dagobaker]

ok here is what i dont get
if i take a plant thats 4 weeks into budding (leaving it with 4 to 6 more weeks to go)
then why cant i use my free sun in the greenhouse to finish out the cycle when its not more than 14 hours of sun till may?

[dagobaker]

im starting a new grow journal when i start putting my experimental plants into 12/12
2 on feb 1st
2 on feb 15th
2 on feb 28
then in the greenhouse on march 15th
and let my pics tell the story
no one thinks it will work ,,,,,,im determined to try dammit

[Kottonspore]

do it then you fucken retard. Ever wonder why your suppose to use a MH during veg and a HPS for Flowering? of course you dont your a moron. The light during spring doesnt produce the light you need for flowering dip shit. if your that determined to fail stop posting and go do it. Make sure you keep us updated on your faliure.

[OldSkool1010]

dago, that will be an interesting experiment. I think you might be able to get some early bud but your test will be the proof. I have been flowering outdoors since October and I believe that I can continue until around March here.

I would make sure your plants are FULLY into flowering 4+ weeks indoors before you set them out in your greenhouse. MJ uses the dark cycle to trigger the process that makes flowers. Hopefully when it is totally committed to blooming, the gradually increasing daylight won't mess it up and make it re vegetate.

Good luck, I'll be watching carefully. At my latitude, the longest day I ever get is only 13 hrs. 45 min. If your grow goes according to plan, I should be able to force my vegetated plants to flower outside all year long.

[dagobaker]

i dont mind alittle negativity around Kottonspore has earned the right to put his opinions on the forum free speach and all
u make valid points but that being said....
u can veg with any damn kind of light u want u just might not get the best results with the worst light
and second....
i plan on eventually taking plants i have close to harvest and put them in the greenhouse to finish up .
that way i free up my grow room to start a bunch of new plants and in return i can steal maybe 4 to 6 weeks of free light
the worst that can happen this year as far as plants health are concerned is plants that either (1) never bud at all and revert into reveg or (2) bud alittle but not a very good crop or (3 )i could get a bumber crop and help me produce up to 1 pound of extra bud than i otherwise wouldnt have been able to grow (18 plants with 2 ounces of bud each divided by half a cycle)
or (4) they could get frost bite and i lose from 2 to all 6 plants

[OldSkool1010]

The pot calling the kettle black.

Originally Posted by Kottonspore

do it then you fucken retard. Ever wonder why your suppose to use a MH during veg and a HPS for Flowering? of course you dont your a moron. The light during spring doesnt produce the light you need for flowering dip shit. if your that determined to fail stop posting and go do it. Make sure you keep us updated on your faliure.