1st Grow Outdoors

[b0nes]

well i am on my first grow right now to, i got 3 plants that are around a week and a half behind yours and a couple more ones that i just planted yesterday.

but for tieing them down just take some string and tie it around the stem of the plant and tie it down somewhere else (like to a little stake in the ground or something). dont make it so the stem bends much at first and just gradually start increasing how much you bend it over till you think it is right. if you do it gradually you shouldnt have any problems. just keep an eye on it to make sure nothing goes wrong.

[xxkmanxx]

yeah i'll start some fert going in a week or so.....then when that gets going ill start doing some LST tying.

[jonster]

lst is mainly used indoor to allow better light penetration, outdoors the natural sun is strong and penetrates so as to make lst'ing non-beneficial, unless you just want to control shape, i'd suggest topping or fimming to create more bud sites

[xxkmanxx]

isnt lst better tho....since ur not cutting anything off, and that hurts the plant and it wont delay the plant since it has to take time to heal?

[jonster]

no cos it only has to be done once or twice in early growth stages, lst is throughout it's life and with outdoors it isn't that much of a benefit in full day's sun unless you just want to control shape.

trust me man top or fimm once right now then again a week later, the plant with all day natural sun will be bushy as fuck, theres nothing wrong with lst it just won't be on the same level

[jkatz]

I was under the impression that LST could be very beneficial outside because by tying all the branches down to a similar level, the plant grows every branch like a main stalk, instead of just the actual main stalk. This would make numerous colas, just like topping and fimming, but without cutting your plant.

[xxkmanxx]

yeah i was thinking the same that jkatz jus said.

[NJtoker187]

LST is only when you are growing in limited space. Your growing outside there is really no need to LST it would just make you have a lower yeild and y would you want that

[xxkmanxx]

Originally Posted by NJtoker187

LST is only when you are growing in limited space. Your growing outside there is really no need to LST it would just make you have a lower yeild and y would you want that

why would LSTing lower my yield? why would people LST if it just lowers your yield......it's suppose to make it bushier with more colas without cutting your plant, or am i missing something?

[jkatz]

Originally Posted by xxkmanxx

why would LSTing lower my yield? why would people LST if it just lowers your yield......it's suppose to make it bushier with more colas without cutting your plant, or am i missing something?

I did a little more research, because i was under the same impression that you are, that by LSTing the plant, you will produce multiple colas without havign to snip the plant. I am not too sure why everyone is advising you against it because everything that i've read (and i went to quite a few places) supports what we were saying. LSTing the plant WILL produce multiple colas, because if you tie down the main stalk the same or a lower level than the branches, the auxins will be forced to the highest part of the plant, and the branches will grow as colas. Meaning if you tie down all your branches to the same horizontal level, the plant will redistribute the hormones that it usually reserves for the top of the plant to the rest of the growth tips as well, making them all produce like colas. Hope this helped, much of it was read on other sites and just placed into my own words. Good luck.

[jonster]

yah doggs Lst is the shit because i would know i've done it for years outdoors, but i've also done fimming and topping, hands on experience and doing it for yourself beats any research you may find, good luck though however which way you intend to grow it's all gravy

[xxkmanxx]

Originally Posted by jonster

yah doggs Lst is the shit because i would know i've done it for years outdoors, but i've also done fimming and topping, hands on experience and doing it for yourself beats any research you may find, good luck though however which way you intend to grow it's all gravy

since your have hands-on experience outdoors using both techniques, which do you like better? like what do you think are some pros and cons on both outdoors? I jus thought LST would be better since its not hurting the plant as much and wont cause a slow down in the growth as much.

thanks

Theres another way to top a plant, without actually cutting anything. You simply bend over the main stem still it doesn't bend back (only the top part), and let the growths next to it take over. Then the main stem recovers, and you basically have 3 - 5 healthy, thick branches. By bending the main stem you're confusing the other stems into thinking it was removed, so they power up and grow. And instead of being a christmas-tree shape, it will be more of a fat bush.

[xxkmanxx]

isn't that just like LST?

[xxkmanxx]

update: took 3 pics....i jus want to know if my babies are ready to do some Topping, Fimming, or LSTing......and can someone explain whats the difference between Topping and Fimming, i tryed searching, but i no threads i found gave a good explanation. thanks

Pic 1 of the Whole garden.


Pic 2


Pic 3