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Zdonkeys · #1 (**permalink**) 07-26-2006, 11:17 PM

My plant is bushy and i think it has to main colas, please dont laugh if im way off i just need help. i want to know where i would cut the plant and how to cut it so it will split into more colas. Also can i do this anytime or do i need to do it in the veg or flowering cycle or anything along thoses lines

Num · #2 (**permalink**) 07-27-2006, 12:25 AM

excuse the crap drawing but im rekt

cut along the dotted line. leave about 1" sticking up.
2 new branches will grow.
then u can do it again as many times as u want until u run out of room.

grow cuttings from the bits u cut off.
here's mine that i cut tonight:

drtask · #3 (**permalink**) 07-27-2006, 12:28 AM

where's the pics Num?

Num · #4 (**permalink**) 07-27-2006, 01:16 AM

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where's the pics Num?

??? u can't see that???? I can! mebe ur browser settings?
or have u got display images deselected in user cp, options?

Num · #5 (**permalink**) 07-27-2006, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Num

excuse the crap drawing but im rekt

cut along the dotted line. leave about 1" sticking up.

2 new branches will grow.
then u can do it again as many times as u want until u run out of room.

grow cuttings from the bits u cut off. pull the lower leaves off & dip the stem in honey

make a hole in ur soil & fill it with honey - plant ur cutting & don't compact it too much....
here's mine that i cut tonight:

sry bumped meself cos the pic had gone :/
U can see here how it grows back double. (not weed btw

)

Doober420 · #6 (**permalink**) 07-28-2006, 02:37 AM

I'm just wondering what benefits does topping have versus lst I can think of many andvantages to lst and disadvantages to topping.. just wondering why people do it?

BoogFitz · #7 (**permalink**) 07-28-2006, 03:17 PM

topping is a method of potentially increasing yield, by allowing more light to lower nodes by removing some of the canopy and also grows multiple colas, depending on how many times you top them.

Num · #8 (**permalink**) 07-28-2006, 07:21 PM

& also u get shitloads of clones which can all yield shitloads of heavenly bud.

Cdiggs · #9 (**permalink**) 07-28-2006, 09:45 PM

I have a quick question regarding this topic:

My plants will be flowering very soon, is it worth it to top them again? or no. I've topped them once already, but I would like it to be bushier

Doober420 · #10 (**permalink**) 07-29-2006, 08:23 AM

Maybe its just me but I find that lst works just as good if not better than topping and U don't stress the plant.

Num · #11 (**permalink**) 07-29-2006, 11:38 AM

lst does stress the plant - u know - l S t!! S for Stress!!

but once ur lst'd plant has grown out & been harvested, what do u do then?
Start some more seeds off with varying degrees of success???

Grow cuttings from the tops u cut off & ur 1 plant will provide u with many more - which in turn u can all grow out & harvest.

& take more clones from

spliffmeister! · #12 (**permalink**) 07-29-2006, 02:21 PM

The difference between LST and topping is that with LST you conserve all the original large branches/colas.

When you top, two branches do come out, but they are not new branches. When you cut the main cola, the two budsites from the 2 lower nodes will become your main colas. You removed the main cola so the plant gets confused and thinks that the next two branches are the main colas. It's not like new and more branches magically appear. Each time you top a branch you are essentially cutting it in half. The stem becomes smaller and smaller, thus making more but smaller colas.

With LST you tie down the main colas instead of cutting them. Just like toppping, the plant gets confused and it will start to push out it's lower budsites. All the while conserving the main large ones.

Doober420 · #13 (**permalink**) 07-30-2006, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Num

lst does stress the plant - u know - l S t!! S for Stress!!

but once ur lst'd plant has grown out & been harvested, what do u do then?
Start some more seeds off with varying degrees of success???

Grow cuttings from the tops u cut off & ur 1 plant will provide u with many more - which in turn u can all grow out & harvest.

& take more clones from

yes the 'S' stands for stress but more importantly the 'L' stands for 'Low' stress lol

Ya I see wut ur sayin but since I already am growing all clones except the few Mothers... I didn't want any more than I got and with those I am just tyin them down and they are nice and bushy. I don't see any difference with the ones I did top.

Cdiggs · #14 (**permalink**) 07-30-2006, 04:19 AM

Ok great, I think my question is answered..
I have topped once already.. and I tied all the main branches down a few days ago (i know its kinda late, but better late than never i guess)

There is still some time for the plant to grow so hopefully she will bush out a bit more before harvest..

Green First · #15 (**permalink**) 07-30-2006, 05:40 PM

<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 1127476" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>Cdiggs</TD><TD class=alt2>Ok great, I think my question is answered..
I have topped once already.. and I tied all the main branches down a few days ago (i know its kinda late, but better late than never i guess)

There is still some time for the plant to grow so hopefully she will bush out a bit more before harvest..</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

When does it become to late to LST ?

Is there a cut off time, when you shouldn't LSt. And has anyone had any bad experiences LST'ing? Because this year is the first time im trying it, so i would like to know all the disadvanages and advanages......

And how loong before the plant adjusts to its new shape/position./>?<

ALso if anyone has any good pics of LST in action that would be great.........

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#1 (permalink) 07-26-2006, 11:17 PM
Zdonkeys DaNk NuGz Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Cuba Posts: 3	i wanna top my plant please HELP!! My plant is bushy and i think it has to main colas, please dont laugh if im way off i just need help. i want to know where i would cut the plant and how to cut it so it will split into more colas. Also can i do this anytime or do i need to do it in the veg or flowering cycle or anything along thoses lines

#2 (permalink) 07-27-2006, 12:25 AM
Num Vorsprung durch teknik Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: nwuk Posts: 659	excuse the crap drawing but im rekt cut along the dotted line. leave about 1" sticking up. 2 new branches will grow. then u can do it again as many times as u want until u run out of room. grow cuttings from the bits u cut off. here's mine that i cut tonight: __________________ < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWXiesK7Hw > *http://www.DIYcanna.biz* Last edited by Num; 07-27-2006 at 12:29 AM.

#3 (permalink) 07-27-2006, 12:28 AM
drtask highDreamer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: where you dont need to know Posts: 666	where's the pics Num? __________________ http://forum.grasscity.com/general-o...6k-beware.html -Trainwreck CannaStrainBase - ADD YOUR STRAIN INFO

#6 (permalink) 07-28-2006, 02:37 AM
Doober420 Brewmaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 156	I'm just wondering what benefits does topping have versus lst I can think of many andvantages to lst and disadvantages to topping.. just wondering why people do it?

#7 (permalink) 07-28-2006, 03:17 PM
BoogFitz Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 24	topping is a method of potentially increasing yield, by allowing more light to lower nodes by removing some of the canopy and also grows multiple colas, depending on how many times you top them.

#8 (permalink) 07-28-2006, 07:21 PM
Num Vorsprung durch teknik Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: nwuk Posts: 659	& also u get shitloads of clones which can all yield shitloads of heavenly bud. __________________ < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWXiesK7Hw > *http://www.DIYcanna.biz*

#9 (permalink) 07-28-2006, 09:45 PM
Cdiggs Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 83	I have a quick question regarding this topic: My plants will be flowering very soon, is it worth it to top them again? or no. I've topped them once already, but I would like it to be bushier

#10 (permalink) 07-29-2006, 08:23 AM
Doober420 Brewmaster Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern B.C. Posts: 156	Maybe its just me but I find that lst works just as good if not better than topping and U don't stress the plant.

#11 (permalink) 07-29-2006, 11:38 AM
Num Vorsprung durch teknik Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: nwuk Posts: 659	lst does stress the plant - u know - l S t!! S for Stress!! but once ur lst'd plant has grown out & been harvested, what do u do then? Start some more seeds off with varying degrees of success??? Grow cuttings from the tops u cut off & ur 1 plant will provide u with many more - which in turn u can all grow out & harvest. & take more clones from __________________ < http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuWXiesK7Hw > *http://www.DIYcanna.biz*

#12 (permalink) 07-29-2006, 02:21 PM
spliffmeister! Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 71	The difference between LST and topping is that with LST you conserve all the original large branches/colas. When you top, two branches do come out, but they are not new branches. When you cut the main cola, the two budsites from the 2 lower nodes will become your main colas. You removed the main cola so the plant gets confused and thinks that the next two branches are the main colas. It's not like new and more branches magically appear. Each time you top a branch you are essentially cutting it in half. The stem becomes smaller and smaller, thus making more but smaller colas. With LST you tie down the main colas instead of cutting them. Just like toppping, the plant gets confused and it will start to push out it's lower budsites. All the while conserving the main large ones.

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#14 (permalink) 07-30-2006, 04:19 AM
Cdiggs Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 83	Ok great, I think my question is answered.. I have topped once already.. and I tied all the main branches down a few days ago (i know its kinda late, but better late than never i guess) There is still some time for the plant to grow so hopefully she will bush out a bit more before harvest..

#15 (permalink) 07-30-2006, 05:40 PM
Green First Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 246	<TABLE class=tborder cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=6 width="100%" align=center border=0><TBODY><TR title="Post 1127476" vAlign=top><TD class=alt1 align=middle width=125>Cdiggs</TD><TD class=alt2>Ok great, I think my question is answered.. I have topped once already.. and I tied all the main branches down a few days ago (i know its kinda late, but better late than never i guess) There is still some time for the plant to grow so hopefully she will bush out a bit more before harvest..</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> When does it become to late to LST ? Is there a cut off time, when you shouldn't LSt. And has anyone had any bad experiences LST'ing? Because this year is the first time im trying it, so i would like to know all the disadvanages and advanages...... And how loong before the plant adjusts to its new shape/position./>?< ALso if anyone has any good pics of LST in action that would be great.........