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Frenchie · #1 (**permalink**) 07-13-2006, 08:35 PM

1st grow in man many years... have some yellowing/ wilting on lower leaves.

1 - strain sativa unknown
2 - 2 months old - about 3 ft high.
3 - on indoor balcony 5 hours direct sun/ day - windows open 24/7
4 - good soil, draining (original PH 7 so it could drop a little!) I hope at least NO PH tester.
5 - using 20-20-20 NPK only used about every 3 waterings a little lighter than instructions.
6 - in 2.5 gallon buckets.
7 - good new growth, green all around except a few lower leaves.
8 - watering .75 liters ~ every 3 days (sometimes I see a little wilting before watering. good drainage)

*** see images attached ***

Can anyone help.. it is not bad at the moment but I do not want this to get worse so i am being careful. I have read in a couple of threads that this maybe normal...

Thanks....

Souled · #2 (**permalink**) 07-13-2006, 10:10 PM

It's normal. Probably 5 hours direct light is not enough for the size of your plants, and the light doesn't reach the lower leaves that much. Or nute solution might not be enough for the size of plant. Nice plants, btw.

Frenchie · #3 (**permalink**) 07-13-2006, 11:46 PM

my bad ** using 10/5/5 NPK. light mixture... not 20/20/20.. sorry for the bad post.. THE FRENCHIE

Frenchie · #4 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 12:21 AM

thanks souled... i thought that also at one point... too bad no else is is helping.. more opinions help everyone make good decisions... I think that I have been pretty detailed.. maybe that is the prob...

to much or to little ferts seems to be a big question.. so far 2 say need more N and one says possible to much N. the funny thing is the guy who says too much is a good friend and very knowledgable... however, i think that they may need more N.

ANYONE ELSE???

Ganja Guerrilla · #5 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 07:22 AM

looks like fert burn to me , the pics are hard to tell but looks like alot of the VERY tips are dried out on the green leaves aswell

dire_wolf · #6 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 07:38 AM

quick question. lets say it was super hot out today and i didnt water them. well some of the fan leafs prety high up an the plants are yellow and prety dead. and the rest of the plant is kinda droopy. is it prety much fucked i plan to water it first thing in the morning hoping it should spring back up.

Ganja Guerrilla · #7 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 07:53 AM

1 hot day shouldnt cause them to turn yellow and wilt immediately, my indoor crop just went thru a week of 110 degee heat wave

how much water and how often are you watering, stick a finger deep in the pot is there a wet layer?

Frenchie · #8 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 12:03 PM

man... looks like someone "high" jacked my thread... can we get back to the subject at hand... we know have 50% say to much fert and 50% say give it more.. sounds confusing huh? what else could it be

fisher1986 · #9 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 12:52 PM

yellowing leaves is normal they will dry up and fall off when theyre not needed. your ferts, you say you fert every three waterings and you water every three days? so you fert every nine days?? thats not enough. if you're watering every three days i would fert every other watering. water --- 3days --- fert --- 3days --- water --- 3days --- fert

Xtasix · #10 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 05:13 PM

i have the same problem mine are a little bit smaller but the leaves on the bottom of the plant are beginning to change to yellow and the plants sorta weak droopy i think its just we need some fertilizer but im not sure what to buy ?

spliffmeister! · #11 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 06:27 PM

I vote that they need more N

If you are feeding them and they are still looking like this it may be because you have a nutrient lockout problem. Over time with feedings there is salts that build up in the soil and they prevent the roots from taking in the nutes. It jams them up. To remedy this you need to start by flushing the plant out. That is running three times as much water as pot size through the pot. That washes out all the unwanted salts. At first you will see the water is very yellow, then it will get clear. That means you are good to go. Then you can feed them and the plant will be able to digest the food.

I apologize for my writing..english is my second language.

Spanishfly · #12 (**permalink**) 07-18-2006, 11:17 PM

It may help if you read my thread on Mg and Epsom salts.

Frenchie · #13 (**permalink**) 07-19-2006, 12:06 AM

spiffmeister! u must be german with a name like that. but your english is greatl no worries....
spanishfly - was a great thread on epsom salt... what is this is spain? como se llama aqui?

spliffmeister! · #14 (**permalink**) 07-19-2006, 12:07 AM

Nah, actually I'm a frenchie just like you!

Frenchie · #15 (**permalink**) 07-19-2006, 12:25 AM

spiffmiester... then it is late for you also!!! my name may "throw you off" like yours did me! did you get that one??? english 202.

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#2 (permalink) 07-13-2006, 10:10 PM
Souled Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 78	It's normal. Probably 5 hours direct light is not enough for the size of your plants, and the light doesn't reach the lower leaves that much. Or nute solution might not be enough for the size of plant. Nice plants, btw.

#3 (permalink) 07-13-2006, 11:46 PM
Frenchie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 29	*correction my bad using 10/5/5 NPK. light mixture... not 20/20/20 my bad ** using 10/5/5 NPK. light mixture... not 20/20/20.. sorry for the bad post.. THE FRENCHIE

#4 (permalink) 07-18-2006, 12:21 AM
Frenchie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 29	thanks souled... i thought that also at one point... too bad no else is is helping.. more opinions help everyone make good decisions... I think that I have been pretty detailed.. maybe that is the prob... to much or to little ferts seems to be a big question.. so far 2 say need more N and one says possible to much N. the funny thing is the guy who says too much is a good friend and very knowledgable... however, i think that they may need more N. ANYONE ELSE???

#5 (permalink) 07-18-2006, 07:22 AM
Ganja Guerrilla www.ganjaguerrilla.net Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,685	looks like fert burn to me , the pics are hard to tell but looks like alot of the VERY tips are dried out on the green leaves aswell

#6 (permalink) 07-18-2006, 07:38 AM
dire_wolf Homegrower Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: feet on the ground, head in the sky Posts: 340	quick question. lets say it was super hot out today and i didnt water them. well some of the fan leafs prety high up an the plants are yellow and prety dead. and the rest of the plant is kinda droopy. is it prety much fucked i plan to water it first thing in the morning hoping it should spring back up. __________________ If you dont know where you are going Any road will take you there

#7 (permalink) 07-18-2006, 07:53 AM
Ganja Guerrilla www.ganjaguerrilla.net Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,685	1 hot day shouldnt cause them to turn yellow and wilt immediately, my indoor crop just went thru a week of 110 degee heat wave how much water and how often are you watering, stick a finger deep in the pot is there a wet layer?

#8 (permalink) 07-18-2006, 12:03 PM
Frenchie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 29	man... looks like someone "high" jacked my thread... can we get back to the subject at hand... we know have 50% say to much fert and 50% say give it more.. sounds confusing huh? what else could it be

#9 (permalink) 07-18-2006, 12:52 PM
fisher1986 grow! grow! grow! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: almeria, espana Posts: 303	yellowing leaves is normal they will dry up and fall off when theyre not needed. your ferts, you say you fert every three waterings and you water every three days? so you fert every nine days?? thats not enough. if you're watering every three days i would fert every other watering. water --- 3days --- fert --- 3days --- water --- 3days --- fert __________________ just chill n chong! safe mate! link to my grow: http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-journals/94225-fisher1986-grow-diaries-start-date-10th-may-2006-a-post1004587.html link to shop: http://shop.grasscity.com/shop/click...?id=fisher1986 link to seed shop: http://shop.grasscity.com/shop/click...ity.com/seeds/

#10 (permalink) 07-18-2006, 05:13 PM
Xtasix hits from the bong Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 23	i have the same problem mine are a little bit smaller but the leaves on the bottom of the plant are beginning to change to yellow and the plants sorta weak droopy i think its just we need some fertilizer but im not sure what to buy ?

#11 (permalink) 07-18-2006, 06:27 PM
spliffmeister! Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 71	I vote that they need more N If you are feeding them and they are still looking like this it may be because you have a nutrient lockout problem. Over time with feedings there is salts that build up in the soil and they prevent the roots from taking in the nutes. It jams them up. To remedy this you need to start by flushing the plant out. That is running three times as much water as pot size through the pot. That washes out all the unwanted salts. At first you will see the water is very yellow, then it will get clear. That means you are good to go. Then you can feed them and the plant will be able to digest the food. I apologize for my writing..english is my second language. Last edited by spliffmeister!; 07-18-2006 at 06:31 PM.

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#12 (permalink) 07-18-2006, 11:17 PM
Spanishfly Banned Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Costa Blanca, Spain on a Temporary Ban from the City Posts: 2,656	It may help if you read my thread on Mg and Epsom salts.

#13 (permalink) 07-19-2006, 12:06 AM
Frenchie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 29	spiffmeister! u must be german with a name like that. but your english is greatl no worries.... spanishfly - was a great thread on epsom salt... what is this is spain? como se llama aqui?

#14 (permalink) 07-19-2006, 12:07 AM
spliffmeister! Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 71	Nah, actually I'm a frenchie just like you!

#15 (permalink) 07-19-2006, 12:25 AM
Frenchie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 29	spiffmiester... then it is late for you also!!! my name may "throw you off" like yours did me! did you get that one??? english 202.