Seeding my Hermie.

[WySiWyG]

I let my female-cum-hermie plant flower about 10 days ago to get next seasons seeds. Having never bred a plant purely for seeds before, I'm a little concerned for it because it's gone from the most advanced and fluffy bush to a spindly, scraggy thing since flowering.

1. Is this a normal side effect of seeding?
2. How soon can I expect to start seeing seed polyps form in the buds?

They're all weird looking plants - straight, no branches and colas all over the main stem - none have the classic Xmas tree shape but the buds are sticky as after 12 weeks with around 30-40% of the hairs red already.

Cheers,

[Lots]

Hey dudet I would not really suggest talking seeds off of a hermie plant. You may end up screwing yourself over for next year, unless you are content with getting hermie bud

Good luck
-Lots

[hippiedude]

^^^^ummm, dont know about him but last time i checked hermies produce 100% (or close to) feminized seeds.

[Spanishfly]

I am with hippiedude on this one, hermies are created by the seed producers using chemicals to produce feminised seed.

The idea is that these grow into females.

[T.Bug]

Originally Posted by Spanishfly

I am with hippiedude on this one, hermies are created by the seed producers using chemicals to produce feminised seed.

The idea is that these grow into females.

Naw, fly. not exactly! You have to force a female to become hermie with the chemicals. but if a hermie occurs naturally than is its in the genenic make-up of the plant. "All hermies should be destroyed. " I read that in some book on MJ cultivation. Peace, TBug

[Spanishfly]

Originally Posted by T.Bug

Naw, fly. not exactly! You have to force a female to become hermie with the chemicals. but if a hermie occurs naturally than is its in the genenic make-up of the plant. "All hermies should be destroyed. " I read that in some book on MJ cultivation. Peace, TBug

Sorry, disagree, hermies can occur as a result of stress, often root stress. It is not necessarily in the genetics of the plant. But having said that I would indeed destroy any hermie, don´t want my girls fucked.

[T.Bug]

Originally Posted by Spanishfly

Sorry, disagree, hermies can occur as a result of stress, often root stress. It is not necessarily in the genetics of the plant. But having said that I would indeed destroy any hermie, don´t want my girls fucked.

Well, stress may, or may not be the cause. But its definately in the genes all the same. its not like its random....what, every once in awhile a blueberry pops out? lol, that joke was for Shouse. Peace, TBug

[Lots]

hermies usally occur when the light cycles have been fucked with. Feminized seeds and hermie seeds are two different things. A hermie plant grows what looks like bud calxys which then turn into seeds and back to bud. Feminized seeds grow strickly bud you always get seeds in hermie bud. Fem. seeds will produce a few seeds but not as many as hermie shit

[WySiWyG]

Right, having now confused myself totally, I thank you all for your posts and I'll read them all again when I'm straight. My hermie won't seed my girls because I'd moved it to the other side of my backyard as soon as I realised it was a hermie. It was a female plant and as it's well-known I'm stingy on root space, it most likely changed from stress. I'll let it keep going and see what happens.

I'll try growing the hermie seeds anyway just to see how they turn out, I have plenty of more seeds stored and I planted 6 new seeds into the ground yesterday. I'm not likely to have worries about getting next year's girls. Thanks anyway!

Cheers,

[Spanishfly]

Originally Posted by T.Bug

But its definately in the genes all the same. its not like its random....

You can have two clones of the same mother, so genetically identical, one can get stressed and go hermie, the other stays unstressed and remains female. So I think this indicates it is NOT always genetic.

Anything else I think we will have to agree to differ on, LOL.

[fisher1986]

Originally Posted by Spanishfly

You can have two clones of the same mother, so genetically identical, one can get stressed and go hermie, the other stays unstressed and remains female. So I think this indicates it is NOT always genetic.

Anything else I think we will have to agree to differ on, LOL.

spot on fly i think that explains it clearly. im my experience a hermie is most likely to have been forced due to light interuption during night

[Spanishfly]

Thank you fisher.

[Shouse1018]

Originally Posted by Spanishfly

You can have two clones of the same mother, so genetically identical, one can get stressed and go hermie, the other stays unstressed and remains female. So I think this indicates it is NOT always genetic.

Anything else I think we will have to agree to differ on, LOL.

I am no expert on this matter but I would think that if it's not ALWAYS genetic it would

never happen? Makes sense?? In order for a plant to go hermie there has to

be some genetics involved, or maybe even all MJ plants carry thise gene but certain

stresses causes them to be yeah whatever, something like that. . . .finally scored

nuggets last night, can't even think str8, lool

Well, stress may, or may not be the cause. But its definately in the genes all the same. its not like its random....what, every once in awhile a blueberry pops out? lol, that joke was for Shouse. Peace, TBug

LOL, That'd be awesome if MJ spit out Random Blueberry Nuggets

[jonster]

Originally Posted by Shouse1018

I am no expert on this matter but I would think that if it's not ALWAYS genetic it would

never happen? Makes sense?? In order for a plant to go hermie there has to

be some genetics involved, or maybe even all MJ plants carry thise gene but certain

stresses causes them to be yeah whatever, something like that. . . .finally scored

nuggets last night, can't even think str8, lool

Well, stress may, or may not be the cause. But its definately in the genes all the same. its not like its random....what, every once in awhile a blueberry pops out? lol, that joke was for Shouse. Peace, TBug

LOL, That'd be awesome if MJ spit out Random Blueberry Nuggets

no, your wrong like everyone has said, they can turn hermie due to environmental conditions or if it's in the genetic make-up, a hermie plant can contain both genes as the dominant, when wanting femeinized seeds, you should polinize a 95% female hermie plant with a female plant. and 95% male hermie if u want male seeds.

you'll know if your plant is environmentally stressed, if it contaains 95% of one gene, if it's half n half, deffinetly genetic. moving it to one side of the house, won't do a damn thing, the pollen travels miles, your going to end up with seedy bud, even if u destroy it now, it's too late. your hermie is genetic instead of environment (which happens more often indoors). the seeds will have a female to hermie ratio of 50/50.

[WySiWyG]

Originally Posted by jonster

moving it to one side of the house, won't do a damn thing, the pollen travels miles, your going to end up with seedy bud, even if u destroy it now, it's too late.

Oh.. well, that sucks somewhat.. I guess I'll rip it's nuts off one at a time in slow, glory-filled delight... Thanks