The Drug Czar is required by law to lie about drugs

[sinsemillaplease]

The Drug Czar is required by law to lie

Check this out... I had no idea.

[JCrohn]

Bleh, once the medical marijuana patient protection act passes (and i think it most certainly will) - then im sure the views will change rapidly.

Also - the drug czar cant do shit if the decriminalization bill passes.

Remember - ...the drug czar is simply a pawn that says what he is told to say by a lot of very influential "advisors" that we know nothing about.

[BudZnBimmers]

Check this out.

Drug czar: Feds won't support legalized pot - Top Stories - fresnobee.com

[Downfall420]

Originally Posted by BudZnBimmers

Check this out.

Drug czar: Feds won't support legalized pot - Top Stories - fresnobee.com

this i agree on,,the part of stopping mexican drug cartel illegally growing in our state parks and what not destroying our nations beauty,,but that seems what there focused on,,were talking about legalising for us U.S citizens that would be paying our dues on it,,if were legal and regulated,,i.e have a liscense to grow a certain amout which would determine the amount of taxes we would pay on it,,if you were to exceed your liscensed amount it could be a fine/increase in your tax and plants taken away to bring it to the level youre liscensed for,,so in return these mexican drug cartels would lose thier business cause we would all be able to grow it,,another thought,,if you were to have a large outdoor grow that was to become upon thinking it was a drug cartel just have it in a secure enviroment like fenced(security fence/electrial fence or w/e) and have your liscensing info on the grounds with your contact info so theyd know it wasnt an illegal op...i dunno thats just my .02

[sinsemillaplease]

Originally Posted by JCrohn

Bleh, once the medical marijuana patient protection act passes (and i think it most certainly will) - then im sure the views will change rapidly.

Also - the drug czar cant do shit if the decriminalization bill passes.

Remember - ...the drug czar is simply a pawn that says what he is told to say by a lot of very influential "advisors" that we know nothing about.

Did you read the article? Law requires the drug czar to oppose all legalization attempts and studies (Even for medical) regardless of what policy says or public opinion thinks. This is a seriously shitty law.

[yeshli2nuts]

thats some fucked up shit

[Blaghlagh]

Is this not directly an affront to freedom of speech? I guess the way it is worded is kinda in an iffy area but this part of the law

(12) shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812) and take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of a substance (in any form) that--

1. is listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812); and
2. has not been approved for use for medical purposes by the Food and Drug Administration;

I dunno about anyone else but that part seems to definitely infringe upon the rights a person has as soon as they come into power as Drug Czar since it does not give them an option. As such, shouldn't that part legally be stricken from the law? Or am I completely wrong in assuming that?

"For every acre of marijuana grown, 10 acres are damaged," said George Anderson with the California Department of Justice.

what the fuck is that bull shit

[DanBoone]

Originally Posted by grapeALICIOUS

"For every acre of marijuana grown, 10 acres are damaged," said George Anderson with the California Department of Justice.

what the fuck is that bull shit

That is why it needs to be regulated.

[J.R.R. Tokin]

Fuck the Drug Czar, fuck the ONDCP, fuck the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, and fuck all those snakes the work with the DEA. I don't see why people get worked up about the "new guy" becoming Drug Czar, because it won't change anything. You want to change something? Don't wait for a new Drug Czar, just advocate for the Decriminalization across the Nation. This in turn will lead to legalization, thus making the Czars office meaningless.

It takes one lie to put a Tyrant in power, but in the end, one right will abolish this wrong we call "control." That is freedom.

[Blaghlagh]

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tokin

Fuck the Drug Czar, fuck the ONDCP, fuck the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, and fuck all those snakes the work with the DEA. I don't see why people get worked up about the "new guy" becoming Drug Czar, because it won't change anything. You want to change something? Don't wait for a new Drug Czar, just advocate for the Decriminalization across the Nation. This in turn will lead to legalization, thus making the Czars office meaningless.

It takes one lie to put a Tyrant in power, but in the end, one right will abolish this wrong we call "control." That is freedom.

I agree, the laws need to be changed for anything to happen positively. As it stands now, almost every person in government is an unthinking automaton, obeying without questioning or thinking about the people they are supposed to serve as long as they get cash. As long as they get money they don't give two flying shits about the people. They have taken the Constitution and Bill of rights into the toilet to wipe their asses with, $$$ is what they care about. It is time the people unite and make their voices heard. Unfortunately most of America is complacent and will not make any effort beyond making a sandwich before they sit down to watch TV. . There has gotta be some way to get this country to believe in itself again and have some pride to make a difference.

[zpyro]

Originally Posted by Blaghlagh

Is this not directly an affront to freedom of speech? I guess the way it is worded is kinda in an iffy area but this part of the law

(12) shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812) and take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of a substance (in any form) that--

1. is listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812); and
2. has not been approved for use for medical purposes by the Food and Drug Administration;

I dunno about anyone else but that part seems to definitely infringe upon the rights a person has as soon as they come into power as Drug Czar since it does not give them an option. As such, shouldn't that part legally be stricken from the law? Or am I completely wrong in assuming that?

As my PoliSci professor told us, these "rights" are only guaranteed some of the time. Take, for instance, yelling "FIRE" in a crowded room, when there is no fire. You don't have the freedom to say anything you want, whenever you want, especially if it incites violence or harm to others (rioting, etc.) So I doubt that there are any free speech issues at hand here.

The more important issue, to me, is the fact that the Constitution says that Congress isn't supposed to be making laws that are not specifically enumerated, and any laws "necessary and proper" for those laws to be effective. Nowhere in the Constitution is drug control or anything remotely close to it mentioned, therefore it is supposed to be left up to the individual states to regulate. The idea behind this is to be able to move, within the country, to a state where the laws fit what you believe they should be. As it is now, with the Federal govt unconstitutionally controlling drugs and the like, you have no choice but to move out of the country if you want to smoke (or hope for the snowball's chance in hell that the laws are changed).

The problems with the govt are so deeply entrenched in the system itself, it would need a complete overhaul to make it how the Constitution meant it to be. Over the years the govt has taken more and more and more power and control over the people; it's supposed to be the other way around. A government by, of and for the people, not TO the people.

[UnluckyClover]

Wow. I think this new knowledge just made me officially give up on America and its War On Drugs. Fuck that.

[sinsemillaplease]

Originally Posted by zpyro

As my PoliSci professor told us, these "rights" are only guaranteed some of the time. Take, for instance, yelling "FIRE" in a crowded room, when there is no fire. You don't have the freedom to say anything you want, whenever you want, especially if it incites violence or harm to others (rioting, etc.) So I doubt that there are any free speech issues at hand here.

The more important issue, to me, is the fact that the Constitution says that Congress isn't supposed to be making laws that are not specifically enumerated, and any laws "necessary and proper" for those laws to be effective. Nowhere in the Constitution is drug control or anything remotely close to it mentioned, therefore it is supposed to be left up to the individual states to regulate. The idea behind this is to be able to move, within the country, to a state where the laws fit what you believe they should be. As it is now, with the Federal govt unconstitutionally controlling drugs and the like, you have no choice but to move out of the country if you want to smoke (or hope for the snowball's chance in hell that the laws are changed).

The problems with the govt are so deeply entrenched in the system itself, it would need a complete overhaul to make it how the Constitution meant it to be. Over the years the govt has taken more and more and more power and control over the people; it's supposed to be the other way around. A government by, of and for the people, not TO the people.

Yup... What's funny is that when the Harrison Act was first enacted Congress would NEVER have allowed a law to federally control drugs. Proponents got it through as a tax law even though that was clearly not its intent and it never brought in any reasonable amount of tax revenue. If we had the Congress today that we had back then these laws would all be struck down... no questions asked.

[hardstyleaz]

Originally Posted by Blaghlagh

I agree, the laws need to be changed for anything to happen positively. As it stands now, almost every person in government is an unthinking automaton, obeying without questioning or thinking about the people they are supposed to serve as long as they get cash. As long as they get money they don't give two flying shits about the people. They have taken the Constitution and Bill of rights into the toilet to wipe their asses with, $$$ is what they care about. It is time the people unite and make their voices heard. Unfortunately most of America is complacent and will not make any effort beyond making a sandwich before they sit down to watch TV. . There has gotta be some way to get this country to believe in itself again and have some pride to make a difference.

exactly!

im right there with ya man