My response to Obama's little joke about legalization

[Gnosis Inc.]

I do agree that some people do get addicted to ganja, but I don't really think it's the plants fault. It's the persons fault for not being able to use self-control. That should be a personal problem, not a legal problem.

You can't argue with me that the effects of weed are worse than the legal ramifications. I've seen the laws against cannabis harm people far more than I've seen it help them.

For example, there's a 63 year old lady who was caught in Mansfield, Ohio growing her own medical marijuana, but since Ohio doesn't have medical marijuana laws they're trying to throw her in prison. A 63 year old grandmother. That's fucking ridiculous.

[COOOL]

Originally Posted by Sir.Smokesalot

and ive seen ganja tear families apart ..fuck alcohol

Wowww never heard of some green "tearing families apart"

[Salvial]

Originally Posted by Sir.Smokesalot

and if i was 15 and could obtain it ILLEGALLY, what makes you thing a kid under 18 wont get it WHEN IT IS LEGAL?

The fact that dealers on the black market don't ask for id. The fact that kids these days have an easier time buying a half ounce than a 24 pack of beer.

Originally Posted by COOOL

Wowww never heard of some green "tearing families apart"

I've certainly seen prohibition tear families apart. Kids getting arrested for smoking weed by some asshole police officer coupled with the parents own ignorance about the subject results in a sensationalistic approach by the parents such as sending the kid off to a retreat or kicking them out of their house and supposed unconditional love.

[gabzk]

Sir.Smokesalot

true..all i can do is speak for myself and tell you that making weed legal will only increase my consumption

thats your decision.

and one of the reasons why i continue to smoke it is because once you come down you are basically back to normal, but some people become dependent on it

like yourself, also your fault.

i know people who have used it for years and then suddenly stop using it because they didnt like where it would take them,

that is because of their own actions. weed wasnt taking them anywhere.

like with alcohol..it is socially acceptable but too much of it is a risk on all aspects of your life physically/mentally

so dont smoke too much?

cannabis, i definately kno it can have a mental toll that alot of people just dont have it in them to bare with, imagine if they did harder drugs..they would be led to suicide..

which makes it even more important to have proper education about weed, not just propaganda.

some people dont know what moderation means..

again, thats there fault, not the weed.

some people like me for one, are somewhat dependent on weed and the day just doesnt feel right without it, my music just isnt right without it, my sense of humor..etc.. and its like that because i made it a reoccuring factor and influence in my life..

you have created that state of being by your irresponsible use, sorry.

so..what im saying is that there are soooo many different personalities out there..and people are capapble of everything...there will be bound to have cases of parents giving their babies ganja in their food and blowing smoke in their face.. all that shit..i dont know what yourviews are on this but im just throwing this out as example..people do stupid things when they have too much freedom..i wish it wasnt true but..

remeber a vid back of some parents giving their kid a blunt too smoke? that kind of stuff happens either way. whether legal or not, because some people are just that fucking stupid.

people like you kind of shame us responsible tokers, dont mean to be harsh but just because you people cant control yourselfs, does that mean that all responsible smokers should have to do so in illegality and secrecy? i think not.

nothing personal mate, just debating.

[COOOL]

Salvial- In that sense i agree! But i think he was talking about the use of cannabis in a family and its effects of being high tearing them apart.

[yuiop]

Originally Posted by Sir.Smokesalot

and ive seen ganja tear families apart ..fuck alcohol

"I want to see a case where the angry father got home after one too many bowls and got angry and beat his wife/children."
-ex-dealer from the business behind getting high

[yuiop]

and Salvial that is only due to the fact that it is illegal so thats an awful argument for why it should be legal

[NatyICE]

I like how everybody is suprised that obama sucks. You think its bad now wait a few more months.

[yuiop]

Originally Posted by NatyICE

I like how everybody is suprised that obama sucks. You think its bad now wait a few more months.

I'm sick of people saying his promise of change is an empty one. Did anyone actually expect him to change the whole f***** world in like 2 months? What president did that again?
P.S. I'm not a big supporter of obama but everyone is being way 2 hard on him. there is no "easy button" that will fix the world

[Gnosis Inc.]

Obama is a tool. The people that really control the world aren't the people in elected office. Think about it.

Google: Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, the Federal Reserve Bank

The politicians are owned by the corporate interests, which are owned by the banks which finance those corporations. Obama might not be to blame, but he's a joke. If he was serious about civil rights he'd end the Drug War and bring our fucking troops home.

[The Cannabis]

Originally Posted by RebelINS

good post, honestly I want to meet him and talk shit to him. I'd own him in a fucking marijuana debate.

He would fire lasers from his eyes before you could open your mouth.

[gabzk]

f**k obama, hes just another puppet.
i dont put my trust in any of these muppets
republican, democrat, its all the same.
theyre all just pieces in the big chess game.
hes a fake, a symbol, false hope
he could make a difference but oh nope
another pawn, another day
im not gonna ignore this shit and say its okay
people of the world, thats who suffers
whilst well suited ghouls cater for their brothers
make no mistake
youre the ones who are being played.

[NatyICE]

Originally Posted by yuiop

I'm sick of people saying his promise of change is an empty one. Did anyone actually expect him to change the whole f***** world in like 2 months? What president did that again?
P.S. I'm not a big supporter of obama but everyone is being way 2 hard on him. there is no "easy button" that will fix the world

Sorry dude but its true his a idiot. America elected a fucking terrorist supporter. And no I am not saying that cause of his name, though to me he is a muslim. I say terrorist because of the weatherunderground link.

[Gnosis Inc.]

Originally Posted by NatyICE

Sorry dude but its true his a idiot. America elected a fucking terrorist supporter. And no I am not saying that cause of his name, though to me he is a muslim. I say terrorist because of the weatherunderground link.

He's not a Muslim or a terrorist. That was Republican propaganda. He's a tool that's for sure though.

[budbeans]

Originally Posted by Gnosis Inc.

Here's what I posted on my blog in response to President Obama joking about question of legalization:

The President wanted the people to get involved in policy making and we did. He wanted the young people to take part in the process of democracy and we did. We got Mr. Obama elected. No one will argue me for that point.

So far, we’ve gotten bailout after bailout while the President tries to find people who actually have paid their taxes to fill his Cabinet, unemployment continues to rise (over 12% in my state), business’ continue to slash workers jobs, and they still just tell us to hold on. Help is coming.

Yet, when a practical solution to making some money comes along, they laugh at the idea.

I would like to say to Mr. Obama that as he laughs at "the stoner constituency", he also laughs at the people in jail for doing nothing more than smoking a plant, something the President himself did in college. He inhaled remember, that’s the point.

He also laughing at the thousands of people in Mexico that have died because our nation refuses to legalize the largest cash crop in the country. 75% of the drug cartels money comes from marijuana. Take that away from them, and they’ll lose 75% of their revenue.

He laughs at the people who have had their families split up for a plant. 80% of the people in jail for drug offenses are for possession, not sale or trafficking. 50% of the people in prisoner are there for drug-related offenses. The prison system is privatized by the way.

The amount of people in jail for drug charges are overwhemingly African-American or Latino. The current prohibition of marijuana was propagated by racists. When marijuana was demonized in the 20s and 30s by William Randolph Hearst and Harry J. Anslinger, they used racist rhetoric to do so.

Anslinger and Hearst made propaganda that said things like :
"Marijuana makes darkies think they’re as good as white men."

"The main reason for the prohibition of marijuana is it’s effects on the degenerate races."

Still laughing Mr. President? I hope not. If you are, maybe you should be in the Special Olympics.

sorry if i put my self in the middle

because you could say none of my business i am not American

but i must say that you are totally right

but i also think that cannabis will never be legalized

first because powerful drug dealer do not want to.
drug dealer big one play at the game of politic to protect their business........

like weapon dillers do.
Do you remember Bush?

Second it is dangerous for places like USA or Europe to legalize cannabis

way i say this is because i see that for a coincidence cannabis grow in the third world country that now economically do not represent a danger for USA and Europe's control over the rest of the world, country
like India Thailand south America Philippines

Laos Cambodia
and so on

if cannabis would became legal then it would be a normal trade to import it in the USA and Europe
and then those third world country economy will rise and could gain power

so to me
it is not legal only for a political strategy
started long ago

not because it is harm ful

more it is convenient to have people in prison


the governments with their lows creates criminal every day





criminality is creating a lot of jobs
so we are the weakest we got no guns
and we will never have one

what do you think of my theories?
could it be?