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popsson · #1 (**permalink**) 06-26-2006, 10:15 PM

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/1...n_Hang_Himself

DurbanPoison · #2 (**permalink**) 06-26-2006, 10:28 PM

*sigh**rolls eyes*

DCrist721 · #3 (**permalink**) 06-26-2006, 11:13 PM

Dude, if anything, smoking weed probabbly made this guy put off suicide for a bit, but after a while too many things just piled up and weed wasnt enough of an escape anymore. I would have to say however, that weed may have resulted in his suicide. I mean, Im really pro pot and everything, and this is hard to tell since the article really didnt tell you what was going on in his life or w/e, but if he was having a rough time and using weed to escape his troubles, he would only be putting them off and letting them pile up. If he wasnt a smoker, he probabbly would have seen a counselor to take care of these problems and help him get better. So weed may have lead to his death, but it wasn't the cause, and it certainly didn't cause some "mental break".

TheColonel · #4 (**permalink**) 06-26-2006, 11:56 PM

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"I am absolutely convinced that cannabis altered something] in his mind and nobody is going to tell me any different. I believe cannabis was ultimately responsible for his death."

Just like the salvia story. Parents want to point the finger at anything that will shift the blame from themselves. So many ignorant people in this world.

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Gregory added: "Geoff had smoked cannabis since his early 20s. The ironic thing was that at the time of his death he was off the stuff. But I guess by then it was too late, the damage had already been done.

WTF.

rumandromanism · #5 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 07:01 PM

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He'd <b>told me the day before that he would eventually kill himself</b> and I asked him not to do that to us.

When someone tells that to you, you're supposed to seek medical help RIGHT AWAY. What kind of horrible parent just lets their son die?

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The week before his death he had been on holiday with us and he seemed happier. But he was obsessed with this idea that his phone and ours <b>were being tapped and that people were watching him</b>. He was due to see a doctor about his state of mind

That's called SCHIZOPHRENIA, which is a serious mental illness. Weed didn't make him kill himself, he was already suffering from a horrible disease.

br3ad_ · #6 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 07:05 PM

That sucks..Schizophrenia would be trippy..All baked and shit.

Stylez1877 · #7 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 08:04 PM

Trippy? No. Horrific? Yes.

rumandromanism · #8 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Stylez1877

Trippy? No. Horrific? Yes.

Yeah, in this case marijuana may have played a part in his death. But ONLY BECAUSE he seems to be suffering from schizophrenia. I still wouldn't blame it SOLEY on marijuana; there are many factors to suicides.

rockingbird · #9 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 10:59 PM

I can understand reacting to the article, but I don't think we need to pass judgement... Ya know? There are probably several factors to both sides of the story; good reasons for his dad to think that, and good reasons for his dad to be wrong. Keep in mind the media doesnt cover everything.

rumandromanism · #10 (**permalink**) 06-27-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rockingbird

I can understand reacting to the article, but I don't think we need to pass judgement... Ya know? There are probably several factors to both sides of the story; good reasons for his dad to think that, and good reasons for his dad to be wrong. Keep in mind the media doesnt cover everything.

That's basically what I said. P.S nice sig quote. That's one of my favorite Phish songs.

Mooze · #11 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 08:04 AM

The kid was fucked up. Marijuana didnt make him kill himself. The parents just need something to blame their sons death on..likley it was partly their fault.
People are what people make them into.

AmsterdamdreamN · #12 (**permalink**) 06-28-2006, 10:57 AM

Man, I feel horrible for the dudes parents. I can't imagine the pain of losing a child. But it seems to me, the parents of these kids who commit suicide always blame something, video games, music, etc.... They just can't admit that their child had serious problems, and and want to look anywhere but home for the blame.

Either way, I think it's always sad to hear of ANYBODY commiting suicide, especially a kid.

brownstain · #13 (**permalink**) 06-30-2006, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rumandromanism

When someone tells that to you, you're supposed to seek medical help RIGHT AWAY. What kind of horrible parent just lets their son die?

That's called SCHIZOPHRENIA, which is a serious mental illness. Weed didn't make him kill himself, he was already suffering from a horrible disease.

In the book ''Uppers, Downers and All Arounders'' it states clearly that marijuana for some people triggers maniac depression or Schizophrenia.

Rasta_Man · #14 (**permalink**) 07-01-2006, 09:59 PM

That man is insane and he couldn't have done less to prevent the death of his son, except to shift blame onto the convinient scapegoat.

ryanrule · #15 (**permalink**) 07-17-2006, 04:02 AM

i was gonna kill myself, but then i got hi
i was gonna slit my wrists, but then i got hi
now im still alive, and i know why
cuz i got hi, cuz i got hi, cuz i got hiii

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#1 (permalink) 06-26-2006, 10:15 PM
popsson Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: ATL GEORGEEIA Posts: 2,901	father blames MJ for sons suicide http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/1...n_Hang_Himself

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DCrist721 Banned Join Date: May 2006 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,285	Dude, if anything, smoking weed probabbly made this guy put off suicide for a bit, but after a while too many things just piled up and weed wasnt enough of an escape anymore. I would have to say however, that weed may have resulted in his suicide. I mean, Im really pro pot and everything, and this is hard to tell since the article really didnt tell you what was going on in his life or w/e, but if he was having a rough time and using weed to escape his troubles, he would only be putting them off and letting them pile up. If he wasnt a smoker, he probabbly would have seen a counselor to take care of these problems and help him get better. So weed may have lead to his death, but it wasn't the cause, and it certainly didn't cause some "mental break".

#6 (permalink) 06-27-2006, 07:05 PM
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#9 (permalink) 06-27-2006, 10:59 PM
rockingbird Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 110	I can understand reacting to the article, but I don't think we need to pass judgement... Ya know? There are probably several factors to both sides of the story; good reasons for his dad to think that, and good reasons for his dad to be wrong. Keep in mind the media doesnt cover everything. __________________ The Lizards are a race of people practically extinct from doing things smart people dont do... I was once a Lizard too.

#12 (permalink) 06-28-2006, 10:57 AM
AmsterdamdreamN Slow MoFo Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Posts: 338	Man, I feel horrible for the dudes parents. I can't imagine the pain of losing a child. But it seems to me, the parents of these kids who commit suicide always blame something, video games, music, etc.... They just can't admit that their child had serious problems, and and want to look anywhere but home for the blame. Either way, I think it's always sad to hear of ANYBODY commiting suicide, especially a kid. __________________ "The world has achieved brilliance without wisdom, power without conscience. Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living" - U.S General Omar Bradley, 1948

#14 (permalink) 07-01-2006, 09:59 PM
Rasta_Man Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 11,223	That man is insane and he couldn't have done less to prevent the death of his son, except to shift blame onto the convinient scapegoat.

#15 (permalink) 07-17-2006, 04:02 AM
ryanrule Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: wisconsin Posts: 372	i was gonna kill myself, but then i got hi i was gonna slit my wrists, but then i got hi now im still alive, and i know why cuz i got hi, cuz i got hi, cuz i got hiii

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