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Old 10-23-2006, 04:51 AM
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This has got to be the coolest most usefull thing i have ever seen for stealth grow ops i cant wait to see the plants flowering keep up the good work.
 
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Old 10-23-2006, 02:44 PM
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congrats on the females ...good luck w/ babies [someday i'll get sick of green smiley]
what do u use for cloning? i have GreenFuse in my cart-organic root stimulator/fungicide..$20/360 gals worth. sounds good,anyway..Explosive root growth!
have 3 carts going,+ about to decide on lights; thinking i'll just go blue/red thruout, 600w of each for 8sq ft....?my fingerr is poised over checkout button.[gotta do some math first]
 
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:51 AM
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Excellent thread, SVT, very well done. Sorry to hear about accident and impending surgery, most certainly want to send good vibes yer way. Heal thyself quickly, 'cause you gotta' buncha' folks (and, at least, one old fart) on the edge of their seats here. We are depserate to see the plants flowering under your associates nifty apparatii. Speaking of which, how much is your associate talking of selling these things for? Hopefully, it will not be priced out of ordinary folks' range.

Again, I wish you well during your convalescence, may it be a tremendously successful and quick one.

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Thanks, reasoner22, Tokinzergling and Elrod.
I appreciate the good wishes. The surgery is scheduled for mid Nov. Very excited but very scared at the same time. Can't wait to get a good arm so I can lift very heavy pots, get a place of my own to grow more weed and keep the experiment going. Elrod, I think my friend will sell the lights in the mid hundreds of $$$ but, by the time he gets the business going, they LED's hopefully will have come down in price. Oh and the moms are back on 18/6 and the clones taken of the top are still alive. Thanks again to all and I will update soon.
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Hey everybody we just switched over to Led's on Oct 18 and so far things are great. We have about 1300 individual red led's in veg and about 140 blue. A 10% -90% mix is what is reccomended. We have used a little less blue for flower. The reduction in heat is incredible. At first i was skeptical as we plugged evrything in and it wasn't nearly as bright as with the MH and HPS lights. Then i read that 60 % of the light can't be seen by the human eye. The plants look wonderful, very bushy and short space between nodes. The reduction in noise from not having all those ballasts and fans running all over the place is cool too. We have set it up for now with the red's on the end and the blues in the middle and i rotate them daily. I will keep y'all posted as we see how they flower. So far so good but they have only been on for 10 days so it's a little premature to make a judgement. If these work it will revolutionize growing. We have reduced from 1000 watts to less than 100..Screw you national grid ..
 
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Yeah i agree these lights if they work 80% as well as HIds will be worth the trade off. If heat and noise is virtually eliminated it solves all kinds of issues that can be obstructive to the wanting? It would mean no more worrying about thermal signatures, CO2 loss through needless ventilation, and the power savings speak for themselves. Im tempted to buy a set from LEDgrow.com just to give it a try its only $250. "Only" is a relative term when speaking of the garden only because that cas is growing on trees." but i was also thinking of building a set. what type of LED ate you using and what is the spectrum? I want to do a little cost estimate to figure if i should build or buy.
 
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Each LED is rated at 2500 millicandelas (mcd) . typical at 20 ma.
I'm not sure exactly what that means, but they are bright even from a distance. I have them about 10 inches away and they seem to love it. i plan to add some more smaller clusters on the walls when i can afford to, they use so little power but what i have now seems to be sufficient so far. each room is about 8 sq ft. Good luck!
 
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wow guys, sorry that font is so big, not sure how that happened

we built our own because otherwise it would have cost $2000.. We did it for around $500..

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rye_led,

Your setup sounds cool. I would love to see some pictures of the lights and some pics of the plants. You can post them in this thread if you like; I will not get pissed for hijacking I definitely think my friend needs to at least double the mount of LED's he has in this hood.

Today is week one for the clones taken off the top of the plant and they both look good. I will probably end up destroying them in a few days but, I just wanted to see if i could get the top portion of the plant rooted.
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very interesting

it seems you're handy so I'll toss a few ideas yer way

I've noticed in my led projection fiddling that they seem to like staying on without being stopped n started cold

so you may stand to get more life out of them if you keep them going 24/7 if the cost isn't too bad

now since you'd have 12 hours of extra light at some point you could figure out how to route all that light into some homebrew lcd projector made from an lcd monitor to play games watch movies ect large as fuck

google up 'diy projector' if you're unfamilar with the concept...I think you'll find gold seeing as indoor growth of plants and video projection have a lotta light problems in common (life/heat/expense/power/ect) and led solves both hobbiest problems nicely
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Your setup sounds cool. I would love to see some pictures of the lights and some pics of the plants. You can post them in this thread if you like; I will not get pissed for hijacking I definitely think my friend needs to at least double the mount of LED's he has in this hood.

Today is week one for the clones taken off the top of the plant and they both look good. I will probably end up destroying them in a few days but, I just wanted to see if i could get the top portion of the plant rooted.
By the way, I burned my girls using the same strength nutes i have always used, i read they will need less nutes, boy they werent lying. Plus they are using about a quarter of the water than they normally needed. Tread lightly with nutes. I am using bio-grow which i have never had burn issues with.

I am sorry bro but i currently do not have a camera, it fell in the dishwater and is no more.. If i can get my hands ona camera i'll post some pics. I just cloned tops too and they rooted with no problem. How many individual led's (red and blue) does your frind have.. And forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is hijacking?

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very interesting

it seems you're handy so I'll toss a few ideas yer way

I've noticed in my led projection fiddling that they seem to like staying on without being stopped n started cold

so you may stand to get more life out of them if you keep them going 24/7 if the cost isn't too bad

now since you'd have 12 hours of extra light at some point you could figure out how to route all that light into some homebrew lcd projector made from an lcd monitor to play games watch movies ect large as fuck

google up 'diy projector' if you're unfamilar with the concept...I think you'll find gold seeing as indoor growth of plants and video projection have a lotta light problems in common (life/heat/expense/power/ect) and led solves both hobbiest problems nicely
Dude, you're talking about an LCD projector, he's talking about LED. Liquid Crystal Displays and Light Emitting Diodes are very different.
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Hey, moriendi, you are talking out of your ars.
 
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Dude, you're talking about an LCD projector, he's talking about LED. Liquid Crystal Displays and Light Emitting Diodes are very different.
you brits sure are bitchy lol

do some research before you spout off bro many diy folks are using or attempting to use high lumen output led grids to project via lcd panels and a portable model that uses led is already being sold
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By the way, I burned my girls using the same strength nutes i have always used, i read they will need less nutes, boy they werent lying. Plus they are using about a quarter of the water than they normally needed. Tread lightly with nutes. I am using bio-grow which i have never had burn issues with.
Yes I noticed this too. My buddy told me to go easy on the nutes and he was right. I have been feeding at half strength of what I used with the HPS and I watered in the 8 inch pots like once every 10 days. The lights really do make growing low maintenance. However, since they need to be within three inches of the light I have to check a few times a day to make sure they don't touch the lights.

The big hood has 13 blue 18 red LED’s and one green. The small light pictured gives 30 watts total with both red and blue turned on and the bigger light gives 80 watts total. I think we could easily double the amount of LED’s we have in the hood. All it would take is more $$$.
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