LED lights with pics

[SmknVTEC]

Originally Posted by T.Bug

High guru and VTEC! This has sparked my interest. The electric cost is an obvious factor. But what about heat output? Im guessing is lower, right? will the boards have to be right up next to the plant to be effective?
***gears start turning in TBug's head as he fades to dream vission***
I see an entire wall full of LEDs. Amongst the lights, several MJ plants spread out accrosed it. Growing more like a vine or ivey than a normal plant...That would be cool!
Peace, TBug

TBug.

Yes there is barely an electric cost factor. Probably a cost factor similar to CFL's if not than less. My dad mentioned he heard on news radio that they are dabbling with the idea of using LED's for regular household lighting. In time, cost should come down on the price of the bulbs. And yes, the LED's barely give off any heat. The heat does not raise the temp of my 6x4x8 foot closet at all. If the heat is dissipated properly, the mounting surface of the LED should NOT be a problem at all. It is a must that the LED's be within 3 inches of the bulbs otherwise the plants will get major stretched.

[growdontbuy]

ok guys-so this whole thing (like everyone else that has stumbled upon it) interests me a lot. i did a lot of independent research and then just happened to find this thread months ago and have been following it ever since. My situation is such that HPS or MH are just too big, expenisve, loud, and hot, but i still wanted to grow really bad. Seeing ya'll actually doing it made me blow some cash i was saving for other less illegal ventures and in the name of science and herbs save some seeds i came into and buy some fluros and start growing. I'm just starting and this is my first time to grow...anything! but it is working....so far. thank you so much vtec, rye led, and everybody else who are making history right now. I'm going to build my own leds and really try and iron the kinks out of all of this and set up some tests. I don't really care what happens to the plants-the knowledge is what i'm after and i'm going to share with ya'll if you want it. best of luck to everybody and vtec if you start a new thread please post a link at the end of this one so the following can follow your work. good luck guys

[SmknVTEC]

Hey buddy, welcome to the party and GC for that matter. I would like to see your results with the lights. Give us a link to a grow thread that you start and we will follow along and help you through. I will start a new thread soon and leave the link here where everyone can follow. Talked to my friend a couple of weeks ago and he thinks the amber colored lights are what turned the last batch hermie. He will send me a different light that just has red LED's. When my current ones are big enough to clone off of, I will start the LED grow. I have started the moms under the CFL's and my HPS because soon I will need smoke and can't take the risk of losing the seedlings LoL. Good luck growdontbuy

[rye_led]

awesome man! can't wait to see what happens! If you need any blues let me know, i have way to many. I went crazy buying led's before i really figured out what i needed. I had planned to set up an all led grow for experiment but i really dont have the space and will instead pry keep flouros in my veg room ( that's working out really well) and leave my red led's in flower. VTEC if we need to use the bluer lights ( metal halide or daylight flouros for veg, why would we need to use all red led's for vegging? Seems like you'd need at least some blue for veg? Interesting idea about the amber too, i had no amber and no hermies, maybe you are onto something there.

[growdontbuy]

Thanks for the warm welcome guys and i'll start the new thread now and put the link up as soon as i can-about the amber lights-i've read (maybe in this thread) that light leaks are a good way to get hermies-perhaps the amber light functions on similar light waves as regular light bulbs-perhaps not. Your hermies could have been caused by at least several dozen diferent things-i hope to at least count out LEDs on the whole as some suggested-perhaps as time and money allow, amber can be tested to see if it does in fact make hermies-as for me now i'm going to stick with a red to blue of 10:1 in veg and 5:1 in flower-if my plants start freakin out i'll add more of both and then start playing with the combinations-this is wat makes this sooo cool-gentlemen we are not on the cutting edge we are on what is known as the bleeding edge-resaerch on technology that is so new its designers and researchers have no idea where it going-Once the kinks are ironed out perhaps we will all be steeped in marijuana growing lore...and perhaps not! anyway guys-i thank you in advance for your help and input because i am going to be learning about a lot in one grow-i'm keeping a very detailed paper journal and will tell you everything you want-and thanks rye but i'm going to see wat kind of deal radio shack can swing me on led's-but i make take you up on that-and i'm using fluros in my veg so keep me posted on how that goes-and smknvtec don't wry bout it man-i'm at the age i can lay hands on other sources very easily and you are in a position that you can not-plus i have yet to undergo major surgery lately-btw how is that healing? aight guys-good luck

[SmknVTEC]

Hi guys, rye, for veg I was only using the blues and had the reds turned off. It wasn’t until I flipped on the reds that they hermied. growdontbuy, I can't wait to see your grow, don't forget to leave the link. As for me healing is going well. The arm is finally ready to be fitted with the device so that is under way. Hopefully by a month I will be able to lift heavy pots. Today I put up some Mylar in my HPS grow room. It has been a while and since I started a few chronic seedlings two weeks ago, I noticed the same burn spots that I always get. I figured it was the small amount of tin foil I had and it was creating hot spots on the plants. When these are old enough to bear children [clones] I will put them under the LED's and try again. I wanted to start the moms off under the HPS because I did not want the risk of the LED because I will need some smoke in a few months.

[growdontbuy]

vtec did you have any other colors on when you flipped on the red ones and did you turn the blue ones off? also do you think the sudden change might have done it? is this strain pretty hardy or is it prone to freak out when exposed to enviromental changes? sry for all the questions i'm just trying to get as much info as i can. Right now my plants are growing-but they just started. once i get together a lil cash and time i will try out my soldering and electrcian skills as i jury rig some LED's into action ( maybe this weekend?). I think on this first grow i am going to use the LED's as supplements and then once we get some girl clones i can try out a full length side by side comparison with just LED's in one box and just fluros in another-i'll be able to use twin plants cut from the same mother and that is about as close and scientific as i can make it. vtec weren't you just using regular LED's and rye was using the super bulb ones that are like 5 times brighter? or did i switch those around? also do you think the tin foil is a bad idea and that white paint is better? my circumstances are such that i can't really get my hands on mylar unless somehow they sell it in my city which is very doubtful. heres the link-i'm going to post this and hope it patches you through

http://forum.grasscity.com/grow-jour...r-some-mj.html

[SmknVTEC]

When I turned the red ones on I kept the blue ones on as well. There were some amber ones in there as well as 1 green one. The changes in photoperiod also could have caused them to hermie but, there were no other stressors. I have groiwn this strain before and never a hermie and it is a resiliant strain meant for indoor growing. It was me using the super bright LED's. Tin foil is not great. It creates hot spots and does not really reflect that much light anyway. Go for flat white paint on the walls [not glossy] if you can't get Mylar.

[growdontbuy]

thanx vtec-u know ur stuff like always-thanks for all the help man

[SmknVTEC]

Hey thanks a lot man and my pleasure.

[SmknVTEC]

High All,

I just wanted to give everyone an update. I am healing well allbeit way to slow for me. I have a temporary arm which I can only wear for a few minutes every now and then because it tears up my delicate skin.

As for the plants, I have two chronic moms and one clone growing under my 400 hps because I will need weed soon. I just ordered this aeroponic clone starter system http://www.shamanshop.net/store/prod...040.0/file.htm

Once I get it and have some good clones to work with, I will get a couple under the LED. My buddy was going to send me a new and improved LED grow light that has no amber but just blue and red so, when I get it, I will click some snaps of it.

[yamato96]

nice tread LEDGuru.

VTEC, 4 next grow why not use max-LST tecnique (super low) for optimal photon penetration?.
ive researched for a year the web and gotta some pics that might help u and other's interested in LED grow.

Good luck! and keep posting cause ur in the right way

[senior_ganj]

Originally Posted by SmknVTEC

High All,

I just wanted to give everyone an update. I am healing well allbeit way to slow for me. I have a temporary arm which I can only wear for a few minutes every now and then because it tears up my delicate skin.

As for the plants, I have two chronic moms and one clone growing under my 400 hps because I will need weed soon. I just ordered this aeroponic clone starter system http://www.shamanshop.net/store/prod...040.0/file.htm

Once I get it and have some good clones to work with, I will get a couple under the LED. My buddy was going to send me a new and improved LED grow light that has no amber but just blue and red so, when I get it, I will click some snaps of it.

Good to hear you're getting better. I'll be smokin this fatty for VTEC .

[SmknVTEC]

Hey thanks Ganja. Make it a fat one.

yamato96, thanks for the link. I read it and it is very interesting. It looks like the sweat spot is right around 640-660 nm. The only reason why I can't do LST is because I can not tie knots and stuff. Otherwise, I agree that an LED light is a perfect light to need LST with. I have a light overhead and one the will give side lighting to lower branches so it should be ok.

My friend said he would mail me some red LED's and I could just bypass the amber ones. Only problem is I have to solder them, so I think I will need more healing time before I could wear the arm long enough and be efficient enough to do that.

I have cut many clones but, recently, my success rate has been terrible. The biggest problem I believe is that I cut them with sharp scissors instead of a razor blade. I know this is a no no but, I tried to put the arm on the other night and was unable to cut with the blade because of lack of arm leverage and a fucking dull blade. So I looked in on my clones this morning and they were droopy. I will have tro get a decent blade and try again. At least I have a mom and was able to get one rooted so far. Hopefully the others will root so I can get them under the LED's.

[SmknVTEC]

I figured out why they were drooping; damn resevoir water dries up very quickly. I filled it back up and sprayed them well and they look better. Please pray for my baby clones, we really need these to work. If anyone is interested I can take some pics of the aeroponic cloner. It is pretty cool.