is 24hrs of light per day too much?

[irieluv]

indicasativa420.. you ought to slow down on who you say is full of shit.. most people who hadn't grown for ten years wouldn't say they had.. and you ought to heed info you get not shun it..

I personally can account that if you had a indo room that you were producing chronic in. using tables.. you would veg your clones for about 4-5 days before you flowered them.. if you did this with 18/6 you would end up with about 1 and a 1/4 pound for each 1000 watter/4x4 flood table, if you vegged them for 24 hours those five days you'd pull about 1 3/4 to 2 pounds easy with a good yeilder.. I'd say that would definitely be the 25% increase.. science doesn't have to show you anything.. He's shown himself.. he's trying to help people like you show themselves that they can do the same thing.. calm yourself.. Grow something that will calm your nerves....

[science]

Originally Posted by IndicaSativa420

No shit they are from the same genetics, but they still aren't going to be exactly the same, and the yield can still vary. Like i said, show some proof of your 25% increase, your definately full of shit. Even keeping a plant with the same light cycle, it will show preflowers if left in veg long enough. I realize i said 24/0 and then switching to 18/6 puts some stress on them, barely any actually since the plant won't go into flower anyways, especially at that young. I don't use 24/0 and then 18/6, when i'm vegging i keep them at 18/6 from when they sprout until i put them into flowering. Plants need rest, and i haven't seen any proof that shows that plants under constant light yield any better than a plant under 18/6. I'm not going to email you for pictures, because i know your full of shit anyways..but if you want to prove your point to me then go ahead in this thread. Even then there is no way to prove that you are right, considering two plants will never be exactly alike. I have experimented with some cloning before, i an no expert but i've taken several clones from the same mother plant, and had them yield various amounts that can vary up to over a half ounce. I'm not going to continue arguing with you, since you want to think you know it all.

Listen, People can argue over the fact of 24/0 and 18/6 and it really doesnt matter to me. And not all of my strains have produced 25% more on a higher light cycle. But if you get a good strain and provide it with a 24/0 cycle you will see a big difference. But dont take my word for it, try it yourself and then you can tell everybody what happened. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Or you can go around telling people im wrong when you havent tested the method. If you dont want to email me thats fine. You must not want the truth to much. And here for the last 20 crops ive done nothing but ebb and flo hydroponics so it makes a real big difference. Im not to sure about soil just because i havent done it in a couple of years. But the fact of the matter is that I have tested and proven my theory so you can say im full of shit all you want. Im the one reaping the benefiets. Another thing is that I havent bought seeds for about 4 years working off of the same clones for years and all of my plants produce within about 5grams of the same amount of bud all the same size.(AS LONG AS I KEEP FRESH BULBS IN). After about three crops I change the lights because they start to destribute light unevenly.

[science]

Originally Posted by irieluv

indicasativa420.. you ought to slow down on who you say is full of shit.. most people who hadn't grown for ten years wouldn't say they had.. and you ought to heed info you get not shun it..

I personally can account that if you had a indo room that you were producing chronic in. using tables.. you would veg your clones for about 4-5 days before you flowered them.. if you did this with 18/6 you would end up with about 1 and a 1/4 pound for each 1000 watter/4x4 flood table, if you vegged them for 24 hours those five days you'd pull about 1 3/4 to 2 pounds easy with a good yeilder.. I'd say that would definitely be the 25% increase.. science doesn't have to show you anything.. He's shown himself.. he's trying to help people like you show themselves that they can do the same thing.. calm yourself.. Grow something that will calm your nerves....

I am glad to see that someone can see that I am trying to help not to hurt. I have only been growning hydroponics for the last couple of years and those are my results. When I was 16 I started growing all soil, found dro, learned how to grow properly and been doing ever since. Atleast you know what your doing. Thanks for the backup bro.

[Joint]

I haven't even bothered to read most of the flames, but I think you all need to step back a bit.

It's going to grow either way. So why get huffy about it? If Joe Blow on the internet uses 24/0 and you think it's wrong, why does that effect you? And vice-versa.

To the orig poster: Either is fine. If electricity cost is a main concern, then 18/6 is probably your best bet. If you really want to squeeze every inch of growth out of your time, you might want to try 24/0. Either way you're going to get nice plants, and consistency and sticking with one schedule is going to be more important than choosing the "best" one.

[irieluv]

pretty much

[science]

Originally Posted by Joint

I haven't even bothered to read most of the flames, but I think you all need to step back a bit.

It's going to grow either way. So why get huffy about it? If Joe Blow on the internet uses 24/0 and you think it's wrong, why does that effect you? And vice-versa.

To the orig poster: Either is fine. If electricity cost is a main concern, then 18/6 is probably your best bet. If you really want to squeeze every inch of growth out of your time, you might want to try 24/0. Either way you're going to get nice plants, and consistency and sticking with one schedule is going to be more important than choosing the "best" one.

Thats what I have been saying all along. Either one works along as you start with one and keep it the same.(until flowering 12/12)

[Gasaraki]

ok I got the picture now... Thanks to all who shared they're knowledge!
And sorry if I started a bit of a fuss by the way...

[IndicaSativa420]

Originally Posted by science

Listen, People can argue over the fact of 24/0 and 18/6 and it really doesnt matter to me. And not all of my strains have produced 25% more on a higher light cycle. But if you get a good strain and provide it with a 24/0 cycle you will see a big difference. But dont take my word for it, try it yourself and then you can tell everybody what happened. You have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Or you can go around telling people im wrong when you havent tested the method. If you dont want to email me thats fine. You must not want the truth to much. And here for the last 20 crops ive done nothing but ebb and flo hydroponics so it makes a real big difference. Im not to sure about soil just because i havent done it in a couple of years. But the fact of the matter is that I have tested and proven my theory so you can say im full of shit all you want. Im the one reaping the benefiets. Another thing is that I havent bought seeds for about 4 years working off of the same clones for years and all of my plants produce within about 5grams of the same amount of bud all the same size.(AS LONG AS I KEEP FRESH BULBS IN). After about three crops I change the lights because they start to destribute light unevenly.

Exactly, not all your strains had a 25% increase so your theory doesn't even hold up. Your telling me that 24/0 gives you a 25% increase, yet not all of your plants had that increase? So you pretty much proved your theory false on your own. The fact is your putting more stress on the plant by giving it constant light, so i don't see how you can be worried about 18/6 stressing the plant out at all. You keep going on believeing in yourself, i'll stick to my 18/6.

irieluv- it's not that hard for someone to make a name on a message board and lie, plenty of people do it. I don't get how you can't grasp that concept, but whatever.

[irieluv]

bro.. I guess that on overgrow.. we all had our grows posted.. but after those damn canadians popo took it out I guess the other boards pics aren't a regular thing.. you ain't gotta lie to kick it.. I don't see why you persist in argueing.. bro to be honest with you.. people who have alot of experience in the subject are telling you that there is quite a increase in growth for 6 more hours of light that 24 hours provides.. and yes it's when we're in our own situations that this happens .. and yes some of us are running 3-4 thousand watts hell.. science has probly grown more than that at once.. so yes.. with the damn sun on in your room it would be a given that those extra 6 hours of veg time for your huge crop that is nearing flower.. and all those nutrients to drink and c02 to suck up.. BRO THEY GROW MORE WITH MORE LIGHT.. we're telling you facts.. people ask about facts.. they need to know specifics.. we tell them.. and yes.. they are our strains and our circumcstances.. but I thought we were all sorda searching for the same environment right? So in that environment that's what happens you get more.. in your's 18/6 works.. Do it.. Mine Grow faster.... Ha!

[irieluv]

And Gasaraki, it's not fuss, we're just discussing the details
In Theory most of your crops should be in flower by now anyhow.. ehehhe

[ganjamen]

Before reading this thread i did as follows:

2 weeks under 24/0, then switched to 12/12:

RESULTS SO FAR:

2 out of 4 skunk turned out male
1 out of 4 skunk turned out hermie
1 out of 4 skunk hasnt showed yet
6 sativas are growing and have some fanleaves constantly removed.

Dont know if the sex of the skunks had to do with light stress or just luck; got one hermie though...

[science]

Originally Posted by IndicaSativa420

Exactly, not all your strains had a 25% increase so your theory doesn't even hold up. Your telling me that 24/0 gives you a 25% increase, yet not all of your plants had that increase? So you pretty much proved your theory false on your own. The fact is your putting more stress on the plant by giving it constant light, so i don't see how you can be worried about 18/6 stressing the plant out at all. You keep going on believeing in yourself, i'll stick to my 18/6.

irieluv- it's not that hard for someone to make a name on a message board and lie, plenty of people do it. I don't get how you can't grasp that concept, but whatever.

You do what you want jackass. Irieluve is right, My grow room is 20x30 ebb and flo system, I run 20 1000w lights in my room. 2 rows of 10 lights every 3x3. SO you and your little 6x6 grow room with your little home depot lights can kiss my ass. I do this for a living its not just a hobby. The reason I said that not all of my plants have that increase is because not all strain react the same in the same habitat you jackass. And for your little theory of 18/6 is better, they both work stupid but some strains get better results with more light. 24/0 will not cause your plants to go into heat stress. The reason irieluv says the same is because we have experience. How the hell do we know if your not full of shit(Irieluv and I know, but not everybody has experience in this field). Your giving people wrong information that can compromise thier plants. Common fucking sense duh. When you start growing for a living then you can talk. Until then shut the fuck up. I recently found proof from a book. Go and buy the cannabis grow bible and look on page 107 you know what you go ahead and just read the whole damn thing cause you need help.

[irieluv]

.. amen science!

[Stylez1877]

Okay guys the insults stop here, no reason for them, if you wan't to act like intelligent growers and debate do so but no one is full of shit.

My take on the situation..I have tried 24/0 and 18/6 and I have always had better results with the 18/6. The yields were relatively similar, but the 24/0 tended to grow slower and I ended up with a hermie, but that is MY results, does not mean it is the only results.

No more insults, smoke the weed you grow and relax ya damn stoners.

[SmknVTEC]

Originally Posted by science

You dont want to just start up and changing your light cycle that is fucking stupid. I really dont know how you havent had any problems making the cycle changes you do (smknVTEC).

As I said in my first post science, 18/6 or 24/0 is both acceptable. Check out these threads. Some advanced growers voted here and the consensus is that 18/6 is the best. I didn’t see his post on any of my links I provided but, I am pretty sure that Unoit also uses 18/6 and he has been growing soil and hydro for about 25 years. I think maybe you shouldn’t be so dogmatic because there is more than one way of doing things; not just your way.

http://forum.grasscity.com/showthrea...=24%2F0+18%2F6

http://forum.grasscity.com/showthrea...=24%2F0+18%2F6