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Old 10-04-2009, 05:12 PM
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Yeah, I think when they are on a manhunt rules are tweaked a bit, since they don't really have time to get warrants on all the houses a felon runs into, if that be the scenario, plus they are protecting the community from a felon. If they were to find any type of drugs/paraphernalia related to you (the owner of the house-not the felon) that's considered illegal search and seizer, and anything they charge you with is useless in court of law. In your situation you actually did the right thing (it's sad but you did) because if that officer did come on to your property and HE smelled something related to marijuana, he could've got that warrant, would've taken some time but he could've. That doesn't mean a judge would've issued it. But the dog is no cause for a search warrant, they are well trained but hey they are still animals, and it could've been a raccoon by your house that drove this dog mad for all a judge knows. But this is only for a house, anything like a shed or any other type of 'outhouse' type building is under different regulations including a car. You might have jumped the gun, but, better safe than sorry I always say.

They weren't really on a manhunt, like they weren't chasing him straight from the scene of a crime, they just knew he was here sometime. And yeah, better safe than sorry considering when that happened they broke into the house, no one let them in. Cops in this town are dicks. I think we are going to wait till we move out of a city area to grow. We need to go and live in the woods again. There's actually a small town in our state that doesn't have a police station(its like 75% woods) they just have a statey who patrols. We'll probably go there lol.


Yeah, we may have jumped the gun. But fuck it. I'd rather keep the house.
 
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Old 10-04-2009, 05:17 PM
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Re: Aborting our grow =(

He only had 2 plants???? WTF. not sure a dog can smell that but hey i grow weed not dogs.... sorry my friend but thats comedy.. but i do feel sorry for the ladies they did nothing wrong...
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Old 10-04-2009, 05:51 PM
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He only had 2 plants???? WTF. not sure a dog can smell that but hey i grow weed not dogs.... sorry my friend but thats comedy.. but i do feel sorry for the ladies they did nothing wrong...

Oh trust me, you could smell it. We keep our grow cabinet ventilated with dryer sheets on the fan to make it not smell so much, but somedays we would come home and you can clearly smell it outside the house.
 
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:13 PM
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Re: Aborting our grow =(

OP, sorry to hear you had to cut.


Don't feel bad and don't listen too much to all the folks giving poor legal advice here.

If the dogs were truely alerting on your place and the cops noticed, you have a reasonable fear there - not paranoia.

And to those who are suggesting that such an incident couldn't lead to trouble you are all quite naive sounding. Do you really think that if the cops pick up on the dog hitting on their place they won't investigate a bit further? They may not have a warrant in hand but its impossible to guess if they couldn't show up with one a few days/weeks later and conduct a raid. Better safe than sorry. Plants regrow, felony charges stick.
 
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Old 10-05-2009, 06:22 PM
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Re: Aborting our grow =(

This is why I'm going to attempt to grow autoflowering low riders in bags hanging high up in a tree.


Hopefully it will be set and forget til harvest and very little risk of anyone seeing them
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sux dude....you defently jumped the gun...especially for just to plants...i would of at least waited till the door bell rang to tell the woman to go pull and hide them real quick.. especially if your used to cops pullin people over infront of your house... i mean i have a cop living next door to me hahaha
 
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Hell I'll ask my co-worker, he's going for Crim Justice and knows I'm growin pot and doesn't give a rats ass. He doesn't know where I live, but hes smoked before and doesn't care at all. Pretty sure cops need a warrant, more than a dogs bark... not that I don't believe whoever it was said that they were studying it, but I'd rather have proof in paper or a book... or my co-worker that I KNOW is studying it.
 
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Hell I'll ask my co-worker, he's going for Crim Justice and knows I'm growin pot and doesn't give a rats ass. He doesn't know where I live, but hes smoked before and doesn't care at all. Pretty sure cops need a warrant, more than a dogs bark... not that I don't believe whoever it was said that they were studying it, but I'd rather have proof in paper or a book... or my co-worker that I KNOW is studying it.
Yeah you should ask him and let me know what he said. I mean right after it happened before we destroyed our plants I tried looking it up online but everything I found was just if you're in your car, not if it's a house.
 
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In the states bro, to search a property, you have to have a warrant, not a dog..
completely untrue. Youre absolutely wrong irie.
.. I live in Jersey and in my county the police can enter any residence if they deem probable cause. Its naive to assume that the laws regarding police entry and inquiry are the same in every state, or even county. Additionally, cops normally wont walk up to your door if their dog barks at your house, but im sure the dogs could smell your plants, and if they were worked up enough, the police can get a warrant in 24 hours based SOLELY on the suspicions of the K9. You were not being paranoid; depending on where you live, you may have saved your ass.
.. Even if you did take it to court, the police got two plant from you, and need only to claim that yours was a suspicious residence, and youre toast..
Know your laws irie. good luck all
 
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completely untrue. Youre absolutely wrong irie.
.. I live in Jersey and in my county the police can enter any residence if they deem probable cause. Its naive to assume that the laws regarding police entry and inquiry are the same in every state, or even county. Additionally, cops normally wont walk up to your door if their dog barks at your house, but im sure the dogs could smell your plants, and if they were worked up enough, the police can get a warrant in 24 hours based SOLELY on the suspicions of the K9. You were not being paranoid; depending on where you live, you may have saved your ass.
.. Even if you did take it to court, the police got two plant from you, and need only to claim that yours was a suspicious residence, and youre toast..
Know your laws irie. good luck all

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dont abort teh grow, they cant get a search warrant if the dog is barking at a house. lol
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I don't know of any trainers that teach barking as an alert signal. They DO teach them to bark on command as an intimidation tactic.
 
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completely untrue. Youre absolutely wrong irie.
.. I live in Jersey and in my county the police can enter any residence if they deem probable cause. Its naive to assume that the laws regarding police entry and inquiry are the same in every state, or even county. Additionally, cops normally wont walk up to your door if their dog barks at your house, but im sure the dogs could smell your plants, and if they were worked up enough, the police can get a warrant in 24 hours based SOLELY on the suspicions of the K9. You were not being paranoid; depending on where you live, you may have saved your ass.
.. Even if you did take it to court, the police got two plant from you, and need only to claim that yours was a suspicious residence, and youre toast..
Know your laws irie. good luck all

Yeah, its been like 2 days or something and they haven't came back,
I guess we did jump the gun a little.
but you're right, they totally could have gotten a warrent.
The cops probably could even smell the weed we just smoked which is enough as it is
 
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ya you kinda failed u werr way to petro
 
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ya you kinda failed u werr way to petro
Well yeah, but I have a clean record and I don't want that to change.
And plus, like someone said earlier
Plants regrow, charges stay on your record forever.
 
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